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Post by LondonExplorer316 on Mar 12, 2022 12:20:49 GMT
Apparently the N20 is now going to serve the stops in-between, so that's a small benefit. The weekend services on the 34 and 307 show no signs of returning though. Apparently Peckham has about nine night bus routes and I think the day buses there are a lot more frequent and comprehensive. I would bet that the inner London town centres still beat most outer London ones in terms of expansive and comprehensive links. I was taking 'expansive' also to mean a denser networks covering more of the residential areas, which certainly isn't the case in Barnet especially since the 384 rerouting. You only have to look a bus map to see inner London does a lot better in this regard. Spider maps are a good way to see this. Is there anywhere you can't get to in the surrounding areas from the centre of Peckham by bus for example? I think it's out of proportion to the relative density of places. Once you consider places adjoining other counties, 'expansive' has to mean reaching towns across the border, and as we know that is very patchy. Inner London is still disproportionately well served, for now at least. Heck even Enfield is way better let alone Peckham because it has better links than Barnet does linking very well to outer London shopping centres like Potters Bar and Waltham Cross. And last year, Enfield received even newer links with the 456 linking to Winchmore Hill Station and North Middlesex Hospital. I'm quite sure they had a service going there already called the 329 |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2022 12:24:18 GMT
Heck even Enfield is way better let alone Peckham because it has better links than Barnet does linking very well to outer London shopping centres like Potters Bar and Waltham Cross. And last year, Enfield received even newer links with the 456 linking to Winchmore Hill Station and North Middlesex Hospital. I'm quite sure they had a service going there already called the 329 Doesn't serve the Station though |
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Post by WH241 on Mar 12, 2022 12:58:06 GMT
With the rapid daily increase in petrol prices eventually Uber will need to increase its costs so might make people look at alternatives. I don't know how it works as a Uber driver but these price increases must be affecting how much drivers are earning making it less attractive for them. Most Ubers are electric. Most around my parts are older hybrids yes they don’t use as much petrol as a standard car but still a added cost. |
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Post by vjaska on Mar 12, 2022 13:07:34 GMT
Most around my parts are older hybrids yes they don’t use as much petrol as a standard car but still a added cost. I was going to say, almost all the ones I see are hybrids as well |
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Post by SILENCED on Mar 12, 2022 13:19:03 GMT
Most around my parts are older hybrids yes they don’t use as much petrol as a standard car but still a added cost. I was going to say, almost all the ones I see are hybrids as well Not sure of current %s, but Uber has said it will have a 100% electric fleet in London by 2025 |
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Post by Busboy105 on Mar 12, 2022 13:31:47 GMT
For a place so far from central London, Romford has quite an extensive bus network. I could be wrong, but I reckon it has the highest average age per bus for a large interchange. It still seems a majority of vehicles even double-decks there are still diesel. Romford is very extensive with links to Lakeside, Passingford Bridge, Ockendon, Stratford, Leytonstone, Ilford, Canning Town, Cranham, Noak Hill, Brentwood and more..... Can you really class Passingford Bridge as a link considering its in the middle of nowhere? |
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Post by WH241 on Mar 12, 2022 13:55:34 GMT
Romford is very extensive with links to Lakeside, Passingford Bridge, Ockendon, Stratford, Leytonstone, Ilford, Canning Town, Cranham, Noak Hill, Brentwood and more..... Can you really class Passingford Bridge as a link considering its in the middle of nowhere? My point was the amount of destinations from one location. I honestly give up on occasions 😕 |
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Post by southlondon413 on Mar 12, 2022 14:04:48 GMT
I was going to say, almost all the ones I see are hybrids as well Not sure of current %s, but Uber has said it will have a 100% electric fleet in London by 2025 Less than 10% of the 45000 registered drivers in London have electric cars as of November 2021, hardly most is it? |
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Post by SILENCED on Mar 12, 2022 14:51:20 GMT
Not sure of current %s, but Uber has said it will have a 100% electric fleet in London by 2025 Less than 10% of the 45000 registered drivers in London have electric cars as of November 2021, hardly most is it? On a par with buses then |
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Post by LD71YLO (BE37054) on Mar 12, 2022 15:11:47 GMT
Less than 10% of the 45000 registered drivers in London have electric cars as of November 2021, hardly most is it? On a par with buses then No, as I calculated in the bus action plan, stands at 830/7532; over 11% |
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Post by uakari on Mar 13, 2022 10:27:09 GMT
Romford is very extensive with links to Lakeside, Passingford Bridge, Ockendon, Stratford, Leytonstone, Ilford, Canning Town, Cranham, Noak Hill, Brentwood and more..... Can you really class Passingford Bridge as a link considering its in the middle of nowhere? The link is to Havering village and Stapleford Abbots. Obviously not as expansive as the former 500 to Harlow. |
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Mar 13, 2022 12:07:31 GMT
Can you really class Passingford Bridge as a link considering its in the middle of nowhere? The link is to Havering village and Stapleford Abbots. Obviously not as expansive as the former 500 to Harlow. It had been a useful link certainly as far as Epping. I rode it from Romford to Epping in 1984. |
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Post by uakari on Mar 16, 2022 17:38:47 GMT
The one in Barnet is poor in my view since the rerouting of the 384; shortly to be disappearing 84 and TfL not providing cross-boundary services apart from 107; no regular service to Hadley Wood or Western Way or shortly to Hadley Green and Hadley Highstone; no link to places like Finchley Central or Golders Green; New Barnet and East Barnet don't have any night buses. Also Barnet Church might look like it has a lot of buses but most are lower frequency than in other areas and artificially end there or at The Spires or Barnet Hospital and don't go any further north or west. There are a lot of residential parts that have never been in walking distance to a bus service such as the western end of Mays Lane. Agreed especially as I'm a Barnet local though the 326 does link to Finchley Central. New Barnet Sainsbury's now has less buses operating than it did when the 384 used to go there, and you have the unserved sections of the 384 which have not been replaced. New Barnet Station is now going from 4 bus routes to 2 in less than 2 years. You got a packed Barnet The Spires with no link to Potters Bar when the 84 cut happens and the permanent extension of the N20 doesn't serve the bus stops between Barnet Hospital and Barnet Church. So as a Barnet local, the area needs serious improvement in terms of reliability. Also no bus from Barnet to Southgate, so Barnet definitely doesn't win in terms of expansiveness. I'm voting somewhere in south east like Lewisham or Peckham. |
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Mar 16, 2022 23:41:57 GMT
I remember when Croydon used to have bus routes going to Guildford, East Grinstead, Crawley and Dartford, but Redhill, Epsom and Heathrow seems to be it these days.
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Post by aaron1 on Mar 17, 2022 8:46:26 GMT
Cricklewood had a good bus network go to places like Edgware, Brent Cross, Hammersmith Night, Acton, Park Royal Eailing Broadway, North Finley use to have Oxford Circus before 189 routeing Alperton, Wembley, Sudbury, Archway, Shepherds's Bush, Victoria
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