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Post by vjaska on Jun 15, 2022 0:08:39 GMT
Doubt a increase in bus fares would push people out of London when fares are higher and wages are lower and there are less jobs. The country is in a mess and just can’t see any end to it all until we have a general election but then we don’t know who we will get! I cannot see a general election changing anything. Well it will - you'll have a new PM based on current predictions and new parties in charge
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Post by southlondon413 on Jun 15, 2022 5:58:39 GMT
I cannot see a general election changing anything. Well it will - you'll have a new PM based on current predictions and new parties in charge But a likely hung Parliament which will just stagnate on everything. So it would be even worse.
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Post by joefrombow on Jun 15, 2022 8:48:11 GMT
I cannot see a general election changing anything. Well it will - you'll have a new PM based on current predictions and new parties in charge And then Sir Beer Korma will blame everything on the Tories the same way the Tories have blamed (and still are ) everything on the Labour party from 12 years ago 😂😂 , I don't know what the solution is but seems things are going to be "screwed" to put it politely for the next few years whoever is in power at the top of government or as Mayor of London , everything needs a complete overhaul new way of thinking .
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Post by southlondon413 on Jun 15, 2022 8:59:57 GMT
Well it will - you'll have a new PM based on current predictions and new parties in charge And then Sir Beer Korma will blame everything on the Tories the same way the Tories have blamed (and still are ) everything on the Labour party from 12 years ago 😂😂 , I don't know what the solution is but seems things are going to be "screwed" to put it politely for the next few years whoever is in power at the top of government or as Mayor of London , everything needs a complete overhaul new way of thinking . Solution number 1 is to completely overhaul the media outlets in this country. As print media has fallen and lost ground to online media they have increasingly engaged in clickbait articles. “Partygate” and “Beergate” wouldn’t have even been an issue a decade ago but this resolve to sell papers, get clicks and viewers has seen journalists stoop to all time lows. This political divide is the this country is a symptom of this continuing campaign. The country needs more control over how social media and other media operates. Not complete control but there should certainly be more voice from Ofcom
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Post by wirewiper on Jun 15, 2022 9:26:08 GMT
And then Sir Beer Korma will blame everything on the Tories the same way the Tories have blamed (and still are ) everything on the Labour party from 12 years ago 😂😂 , I don't know what the solution is but seems things are going to be "screwed" to put it politely for the next few years whoever is in power at the top of government or as Mayor of London , everything needs a complete overhaul new way of thinking . Solution number 1 is to completely overhaul the media outlets in this country. As print media has fallen and lost ground to online media they have increasingly engaged in clickbait articles. “Partygate” and “Beergate” wouldn’t have even been an issue a decade ago but this resolve to sell papers, get clicks and viewers has seen journalists stoop to all time lows. This political divide is the this country is a symptom of this continuing campaign. The country needs more control over how social media and other media operates. Not complete control but there should certainly be more voice from Ofcom I completely agree with you that the way the media operates in this country (and in the US) needs a thorough overhaul - although we part company on "partygate" and "Beergate", these are legitimate subjects of interest. The British public were required to live under restrictions that were unprecedented in peacetime, and did so largely willingly, although at great personal and emotional cost to many. To then be confronted by the very people who imposed those restrictions clearly flouting them is rightfully a cause of great anger. Things will only improve when enough of use take our own responsibility for the way we use and consume media. I deleted my Twitter account years ago. I subscribe to news sources that I consider to be reliable and authoritative. Start by buying a quality Sunday paper - The Observer if you are left-leaning, The Times if you are right-leaning. I don't care about anyone's politics, but I want them to put their argument from an informed viewpoint. And most importantly, to listen.
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Post by southlondon413 on Jun 15, 2022 9:50:07 GMT
Solution number 1 is to completely overhaul the media outlets in this country. As print media has fallen and lost ground to online media they have increasingly engaged in clickbait articles. “Partygate” and “Beergate” wouldn’t have even been an issue a decade ago but this resolve to sell papers, get clicks and viewers has seen journalists stoop to all time lows. This political divide is the this country is a symptom of this continuing campaign. The country needs more control over how social media and other media operates. Not complete control but there should certainly be more voice from Ofcom I completely agree with you that the way the media operates in this country (and in the US) needs a thorough overhaul - although we part company on "partygate" and "Beergate", these are legitimate subjects of interest. The British public were required to live under restrictions that were unprecedented in peacetime, and did so largely willingly, although at great personal and emotional cost to many. To then be confronted by the very people who imposed those restrictions clearly flouting them is rightfully a cause of great anger. Things will only improve when enough of use take our own responsibility for the way we use and consume media. I deleted my Twitter account years ago. I subscribe to news sources that I consider to be reliable and authoritative. Start by buying a quality Sunday paper - The Observer if you are left-leaning, The Times if you are right-leaning. I don't care about anyone's politics, but I want them to put their argument from an informed viewpoint. And most importantly, to listen. I used to read the I, before The Independent sold it. It was great initially. Barely any bias as the stories were short and just full of fact, so there was no room. I don’t disagree with the “Partygate” and “Beergate” stories being of interest, they are. But it has become like the Wild West of journalism trying to get people up in arms about what was relatively minute issues in some cases. Nobody flinched when the birthday cake was first reported but a year later and it is newsworthy because the media decided it was. This country will never heal the political divide as long as the media is controlling the narrative rather than elected officials, regardless of political affiliation. As we have seen in the US in this day and age of Twitter a change of leadership does nothing but turn those who defend the previous government into extreme critics of the new one. Twitter has been a cancer on this planet and has lead us all down a dark road of mistrust, clickbait and fake news.
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Post by capitalomnibus on Jun 15, 2022 10:11:45 GMT
I completely agree with you that the way the media operates in this country (and in the US) needs a thorough overhaul - although we part company on "partygate" and "Beergate", these are legitimate subjects of interest. The British public were required to live under restrictions that were unprecedented in peacetime, and did so largely willingly, although at great personal and emotional cost to many. To then be confronted by the very people who imposed those restrictions clearly flouting them is rightfully a cause of great anger. Things will only improve when enough of use take our own responsibility for the way we use and consume media. I deleted my Twitter account years ago. I subscribe to news sources that I consider to be reliable and authoritative. Start by buying a quality Sunday paper - The Observer if you are left-leaning, The Times if you are right-leaning. I don't care about anyone's politics, but I want them to put their argument from an informed viewpoint. And most importantly, to listen. I used to read the I, before The Independent sold it. It was great initially. Barely any bias as the stories were short and just full of fact, so there was no room. I don’t disagree with the “Partygate” and “Beergate” stories being of interest, they are. But it has become like the Wild West of journalism trying to get people up in arms about what was relatively minute issues in some cases. Nobody flinched when the birthday cake was first reported but a year later and it is newsworthy because the media decided it was. This country will never heal the political divide as long as the media is controlling the narrative rather than elected officials, regardless of political affiliation. As we have seen in the US in this day and age of Twitter a change of leadership does nothing but turn those who defend the previous government into extreme critics of the new one. Twitter has been a cancer on this planet and has lead us all down a dark road of mistrust, clickbait and fake news. I would not just blame twitter, I would blame many of the news outlets and google and apple. With the swipe of home screen there are tons of clickbait news articles, many just to gain advertising cookies on you with stories that are full of tripe and very misleading from the initial headline.
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Post by vjaska on Jun 15, 2022 11:33:18 GMT
Well it will - you'll have a new PM based on current predictions and new parties in charge But a likely hung Parliament which will just stagnate on everything. So it would be even worse. I think you missed the point - it was said nothing would change but based on current predictions something would change and that would be a different PM and two different parties in charge. Not once did I actually comment on what they’d do in power
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Post by ServerKing on Jun 15, 2022 18:50:21 GMT
Doubt a increase in bus fares would push people out of London when fares are higher and wages are lower and there are less jobs. The country is in a mess and just can’t see any end to it all until we have a general election but then we don’t know who we will get! I cannot see a general election changing anything. Don't vote! The Government will get in
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Jun 18, 2022 4:07:02 GMT
I cannot see a general election changing anything. Don't vote! The Government will get in If voting changed anything they'd abolish it
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