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Post by capitalomnibus on Oct 22, 2022 22:42:37 GMT
How is it BS? You don't know what it's like to be on UC or any other benefits. I don't need to. i have been on benefits in the past. I don't need a stupid statement as what you said it is simply nonsense imo.
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Post by capitalomnibus on Oct 22, 2022 22:46:02 GMT
I don't see how it could even work having Boris back as Prime Minister. After so many MPs resigned from government, he started running out of MPs to fill some positions. Mind you, without looking up who they are, I have read that 2 MPs who resigned from his government have now decided to nominate him back as Prime Minister. You couldn't make it up. Whilst we are about it, anyone care to ask Johnson why he was on holiday in the Caribbean whilst Parliament is in session, instead of representing his constituents in Uxbridge and South Ruislip? "Other MPs do it" is not a defence as "other MPs" are not lobbying to become Prime Minister. He is entitled to a holiday, just like any other MP. It is foolish to think that every MP must only go on holiday during parliament breaks etc. They could be representing or solving constituency matters from a laptop away; we are not in the dark ages, the same way we have work from home.
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Post by capitalomnibus on Oct 22, 2022 22:49:15 GMT
You're speaking to a Conservative voter there so good luck trying to get any point across:P totally agree with everything you're saying. At least someone dose unlike capitalomnibus if I had known your a Tory I would have kept my mouth shut. So I take it you don't care about the disabled and those who are unable to work? I am not for your soppy stories. You go on as though you know everyone's case and use left wing propaganda to put your case forward. You do NOT know how much disabled or people unable to work, or even if they are in my family. It is people like yourself that are far from reality, that just want to be a number instead of actually trying to make a positive difference.
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Post by WH241 on Oct 23, 2022 9:55:06 GMT
Rishi Sunak has finally confirmed he is standing to be the next Conservative leader.
He is far from ideal but probably best of a bad bunch.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Oct 23, 2022 13:26:19 GMT
If enough MPs really want to avoid Boris becoming Prime Minister again, they could join Penny's campaign so that she gets 100+ nominations and potentially keep him out of the final 2 for any members' vote.
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Post by southlondon413 on Oct 23, 2022 16:43:24 GMT
If enough MPs really want to avoid Boris becoming Prime Minister again, they could join Penny's campaign so that she gets 100+ nominations and potentially keep him out of the final 2 for any members' vote. If Morduant is on the ballot for members I will vote for her, just as I was planning previously. Unfortunately last time both my candidates were knocked out and I didn’t like who remained so I chose not to vote. This time if she’s there I will vote for her, otherwise I will abstain again. I don’t like Sunak, I think he would be a mistake and would never unify the party. As for BoJo, as much as I like him and have voted for him on every occasion, either as mayor or leader of the party, I think he had his opportunity and he f**ked it. Bringing him back might be great for the polls, latest figures from some sources seem to suggest an obvious Labour GE win but with a 20 seat majority with BJ as Tory leader, but he tanked the opportunity and frankly bought disrepute to the office, not that previous PMs haven’t, it’s just in this age it’s much harder to avoid. Either way I’m down for Morduant, she brings a fresh view imho and when times are tough who better to have in charge than a person with military experience who won’t be fazed by the usual bullshit.
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Oct 23, 2022 16:53:22 GMT
If enough MPs really want to avoid Boris becoming Prime Minister again, they could join Penny's campaign so that she gets 100+ nominations and potentially keep him out of the final 2 for any members' vote. If Morduant is on the ballot for members I will vote for her, just as I was planning previously. Unfortunately last time both my candidates were knocked out and I didn’t like who remained so I chose not to vote. This time if she’s there I will vote for her, otherwise I will abstain again. I don’t like Sunak, I think he would be a mistake and would never unify the party. As for BoJo, as much as I like him and have voted for him on every occasion, either as mayor or leader of the party, I think he had his opportunity and he f**ked it. Bringing him back might be great for the polls, latest figures from some sources seem to suggest an obvious Labour GE win but with a 20 seat majority with BJ as Tory leader, but he tanked the opportunity and frankly bought disrepute to the office, not that previous PMs haven’t, it’s just in this age it’s much harder to avoid. Either way I’m down for Morduant, she brings a fresh view imho and when times are tough who better to have in charge than a person with military experience who won’t be fazed by the usual bullshit. Interestingly there was talk today that Boris spoke to Mordaunt and asked her to pull out and back him instead. Shows he seems to be doing anything to get back into the top job. I think Boris' days are over, at least for the foreseeable. I wouldn't mind seeing him back in the PM position at the end of the week simply because it will mean the Tories will probably self implode the week after and lead to a GE where we can finally find out what the British public actually want. We do also have the privileges committee investigating throughout October which will potentially look very d*mning on Boris and the last thing we need is for him to be PM at the time. I do however think that if Boris makes it past the 100 MP threshold that he will beat Sunak in the members vote.
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Post by wirewiper on Oct 23, 2022 17:24:48 GMT
If Morduant is on the ballot for members I will vote for her, just as I was planning previously. Unfortunately last time both my candidates were knocked out and I didn’t like who remained so I chose not to vote. This time if she’s there I will vote for her, otherwise I will abstain again. I don’t like Sunak, I think he would be a mistake and would never unify the party. As for BoJo, as much as I like him and have voted for him on every occasion, either as mayor or leader of the party, I think he had his opportunity and he f**ked it. Bringing him back might be great for the polls, latest figures from some sources seem to suggest an obvious Labour GE win but with a 20 seat majority with BJ as Tory leader, but he tanked the opportunity and frankly bought disrepute to the office, not that previous PMs haven’t, it’s just in this age it’s much harder to avoid. Either way I’m down for Morduant, she brings a fresh view imho and when times are tough who better to have in charge than a person with military experience who won’t be fazed by the usual bullshit. Interestingly there was talk today that Boris spoke to Mordaunt and asked her to pull out and back him instead. Shows he seems to be doing anything to get back into the top job. I think Boris' days are over, at least for the foreseeable. I wouldn't mind seeing him back in the PM position at the end of the week simply because it will mean the Tories will probably self implode the week after and lead to a GE where we can finally find out what the British public actually want. We do also have the privileges committee investigating throughout October which will potentially look very d*mning on Boris and the last thing we need is for him to be PM at the time. I do however think that if Boris makes it past the 100 MP threshold that he will beat Sunak in the members vote. The Guardian Live is reporting that Penny Mordaunt has refused Johnson's request to drop out of the race, and warned that most of her supporters would switch to Rishi Sunak if she did. As it is, Sunak appears to be the clear favourite amongst MPs. If Johnson did get just over 100 votes and the membership subsequently voted him in, he would not command the support of many of his MPs (there are currently 357 Conservative MPs in the Commons). Already there are reports of possible defections, resigning the whip, or simply resigning, if Johnson returns as Prime Minister.
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Post by LD71YLO (BE37054) on Oct 23, 2022 17:35:16 GMT
Interestingly there was talk today that Boris spoke to Mordaunt and asked her to pull out and back him instead. Shows he seems to be doing anything to get back into the top job. I think Boris' days are over, at least for the foreseeable. I wouldn't mind seeing him back in the PM position at the end of the week simply because it will mean the Tories will probably self implode the week after and lead to a GE where we can finally find out what the British public actually want. We do also have the privileges committee investigating throughout October which will potentially look very d*mning on Boris and the last thing we need is for him to be PM at the time. I do however think that if Boris makes it past the 100 MP threshold that he will beat Sunak in the members vote. The Guardian Live is reporting that Penny Mordaunt has refused Johnson's request to drop out of the race, and warned that most of her supporters would switch to Rishi Sunak if she did. As it is, Sunak appears to be the clear favourite amongst MPs. If Johnson did get just over 100 votes and the membership subsequently voted him in, he would not command the support of many of his MPs (there are currently 357 Conservative MPs in the Commons). Already there are reports of possible defections, resigning the whip, or simply resigning, if Johnson returns as Prime Minister. What's the difference between resigning and resigning the whip?
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Post by wirewiper on Oct 23, 2022 17:40:03 GMT
The Guardian Live is reporting that Penny Mordaunt has refused Johnson's request to drop out of the race, and warned that most of her supporters would switch to Rishi Sunak if she did. As it is, Sunak appears to be the clear favourite amongst MPs. If Johnson did get just over 100 votes and the membership subsequently voted him in, he would not command the support of many of his MPs (there are currently 357 Conservative MPs in the Commons). Already there are reports of possible defections, resigning the whip, or simply resigning, if Johnson returns as Prime Minister. What's the difference between resigning and resigning the whip? By resigning, I mean completely - no longer being MPs. By resigning the whip, I mean no longer voting with the Conservatives. This means they would be suspended or expelled from the Party and sit as Independents. For clarification, defections means "Crossing the Floor" and joining an opposition party.
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Post by ServerKing on Oct 23, 2022 18:01:16 GMT
If Morduant is on the ballot for members I will vote for her, just as I was planning previously. Unfortunately last time both my candidates were knocked out and I didn’t like who remained so I chose not to vote. This time if she’s there I will vote for her, otherwise I will abstain again. I don’t like Sunak, I think he would be a mistake and would never unify the party. As for BoJo, as much as I like him and have voted for him on every occasion, either as mayor or leader of the party, I think he had his opportunity and he f**ked it. Bringing him back might be great for the polls, latest figures from some sources seem to suggest an obvious Labour GE win but with a 20 seat majority with BJ as Tory leader, but he tanked the opportunity and frankly bought disrepute to the office, not that previous PMs haven’t, it’s just in this age it’s much harder to avoid. Either way I’m down for Morduant, she brings a fresh view imho and when times are tough who better to have in charge than a person with military experience who won’t be fazed by the usual bullshit. Interestingly there was talk today that Boris spoke to Mordaunt and asked her to pull out and back him instead. Shows he seems to be doing anything to get back into the top job. I think Boris' days are over, at least for the foreseeable. I wouldn't mind seeing him back in the PM position at the end of the week simply because it will mean the Tories will probably self implode the week after and lead to a GE where we can finally find out what the British public actually want. We do also have the privileges committee investigating throughout October which will potentially look very d*mning on Boris and the last thing we need is for him to be PM at the time. I do however think that if Boris makes it past the 100 MP threshold that he will beat Sunak in the members vote. Let's see what happens with Boris on the Privileges Committee hearing. Like the 322's Metrocities, they're taking a while to charge Boris hasn't officially declared he is running for PM, he has around 60 votes, while Rishi Sunak has closer to the 155 threshold to be declared PM on Monday, without the "run-off" faff involving (clueless) Tory members online up to Friday I have a theory that Liz Truss didn't want to lose out on her Universal Credit payments and so deliberately didn't keep the job for long
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Oct 23, 2022 20:07:58 GMT
Boris has (thankfully) announced he won't stand for leader
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Post by northlondon83 on Oct 23, 2022 20:52:14 GMT
Boris has (thankfully) announced he won't stand for leader That's the most sensible thing he's done since 2019
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Post by WH241 on Oct 23, 2022 21:01:02 GMT
It’s funny seeing all the MPs who were backing Boris on Twitter now switching sides to Rishi!
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Post by ronnie on Oct 23, 2022 21:17:23 GMT
So all certain to have Rishi as PM, on Diwali as well!
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