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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Oct 22, 2022 3:40:42 GMT
Nearly spat my lunch out all over the keyboard reading that. Starmer has infinitely more credibility among the general population than Corbyn did. Corbyn would have been a disaster for this country. Not as bad as Truss, but then again the public did not get a say on whether they wanted Truss and her daft neo-libertarian policies. Starmer would be a safe, if un-dynamic pair of hands. Perhaps exactly what we need after 6 years of non-stop unpredictability which has left our country as a laughing stock across the world. The only way for Tories to avoid an early general election is to bring back Boris Johnson with Sunak as chancellor. The two of them publicly burying the hatchet, uniting warring factions of the party, and seeing out the remaining two years delivering their manifesto promises. If Sunak or anyone else becomes PM and wants to rip up the Tory manifesto promises they were elected upon (levelling up anyone?), there has to be a general election to allow us to have our say on how we want our country to move forward and who is the best party to do that. Re levelling up... don't you think Sunak would deliver on that? He is a northern MP. Although he does have a northern constituency, it is Richmond in Yorkshire, one of the wealthiest in the country. It remained Conservative throughout the Labour government years and was even the constituency of William Hague, Conservative leader from 1997-2001.
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Post by richard on Oct 22, 2022 13:18:40 GMT
I do hope people will vote labor if the statistics are correct they would win an election if there was one now. People who vote conservative have blood on their hands because they love to cause missery to the disabled by cutting the universal credit £20 a month it may not sound like much but for them it's a lifeline. Total utter BS How is it BS? You don't know what it's like to be on UC or any other benefits.
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Oct 22, 2022 13:49:38 GMT
How is it BS? You don't know what it's like to be on UC or any other benefits. You're speaking to a Conservative voter there so good luck trying to get any point across:P totally agree with everything you're saying.
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Post by greenboy on Oct 22, 2022 14:14:33 GMT
How is it BS? You don't know what it's like to be on UC or any other benefits. So do you know for a fact that capitalomnibus has never been on UC or any other benefits or is that just an assumption on your part? I'm guessing it's the latter although I might be wrong. Either way your 'blood on hands' assertion certainly is BS.
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Post by ServerKing on Oct 22, 2022 17:21:24 GMT
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Post by wirewiper on Oct 22, 2022 17:22:57 GMT
I honestly can’t believe what I just read! Boris is expected to run for the leadership! Absolute joke! I don't see how it could even work having Boris back as Prime Minister. After so many MPs resigned from government, he started running out of MPs to fill some positions. Mind you, without looking up who they are, I have read that 2 MPs who resigned from his government have now decided to nominate him back as Prime Minister. You couldn't make it up. Whilst we are about it, anyone care to ask Johnson why he was on holiday in the Caribbean whilst Parliament is in session, instead of representing his constituents in Uxbridge and South Ruislip? "Other MPs do it" is not a defence as "other MPs" are not lobbying to become Prime Minister.
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Post by richard on Oct 22, 2022 17:31:35 GMT
How is it BS? You don't know what it's like to be on UC or any other benefits. You're speaking to a Conservative voter there so good luck trying to get any point across:P totally agree with everything you're saying. At least someone dose unlike capitalomnibus if I had known your a Tory I would have kept my mouth shut. So I take it you don't care about the disabled and those who are unable to work?
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Oct 22, 2022 18:31:07 GMT
You're speaking to a Conservative voter there so good luck trying to get any point across:P totally agree with everything you're saying. At least someone dose unlike capitalomnibus if I had known your a Tory I would have kept my mouth shut. So I take it you don't care about the disabled and those who are unable to work? I don't know if you were replying to me, but I was supporting you in your initial point and totally agree.
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Post by northlondon83 on Oct 22, 2022 19:04:32 GMT
I don't see how it could even work having Boris back as Prime Minister. After so many MPs resigned from government, he started running out of MPs to fill some positions. Mind you, without looking up who they are, I have read that 2 MPs who resigned from his government have now decided to nominate him back as Prime Minister. You couldn't make it up. Whilst we are about it, anyone care to ask Johnson why he was on holiday in the Caribbean whilst Parliament is in session, instead of representing his constituents in Uxbridge and South Ruislip? "Other MPs do it" is not a defence as "other MPs" are not lobbying to become Prime Minister. Because he simply doesn't care. Also strange how he comes back to England soon as the opportunity to become PM arises. This man should be kept far away from the position of PM, he skipped several COBRA meetings before/during Covid for example!
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Post by snowman on Oct 22, 2022 19:55:43 GMT
I honestly can’t believe what I just read! Boris is expected to run for the leadership! Absolute joke! I don't see how it could even work having Boris back as Prime Minister. After so many MPs resigned from government, he started running out of MPs to fill some positions. Mind you, without looking up who they are, I have read that 2 MPs who resigned from his government have now decided to nominate him back as Prime Minister. You couldn't make it up. Boris is never going to be a unity candidate, he is love him or hate him There are many conservative MPs who clearly know they are likely to lose seat at next General election based on current polls, and probably have a deluded idea that Boris could be popular and save their seats from being lost as voters will switch back to Boris But of course we have a parliamentary democracy, you don’t vote for an individual like a presidential election (and I know some of the electorate are dumb and think they voted for Boris even if he wasn’t on their ballot paper). But country has moved on, high inflation, cost of living problems, mortgage rates leaping, so called Brexit dividend turning out to be negligible, political stagnation etc Conservatives need stability, and need to be able to show it to Financial markets, if Boris returns will just be internal infighting, resignations and anything but steadying of current mess. He would be a disaster for stability
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Post by richard on Oct 22, 2022 20:13:33 GMT
At least someone dose unlike capitalomnibus if I had known your a Tory I would have kept my mouth shut. So I take it you don't care about the disabled and those who are unable to work? I don't know if you were replying to me, but I was supporting you in your initial point and totally agree. Not directed at you it was capitalomnibus I was having a go at
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Post by ServerKing on Oct 22, 2022 20:32:37 GMT
I don't see how it could even work having Boris back as Prime Minister. After so many MPs resigned from government, he started running out of MPs to fill some positions. Mind you, without looking up who they are, I have read that 2 MPs who resigned from his government have now decided to nominate him back as Prime Minister. You couldn't make it up. Boris is never going to be a unity candidate, he is love him or hate him There are many conservative MPs who clearly know they are likely to lose seat at next General election based on current polls, and probably have a deluded idea that Boris could be popular and save their seats from being lost as voters will switch back to Boris But of course we have a parliamentary democracy, you don’t vote for an individual like a presidential election (and I know some of the electorate are dumb and think they voted for Boris even if he wasn’t on their ballot paper). But country has moved on, high inflation, cost of living problems, mortgage rates leaping, so called Brexit dividend turning out to be negligible, political stagnation etc Conservatives need stability, and need to be able to show it to Financial markets, if Boris returns will just be internal infighting, resignations and anything but steadying of current mess. He would be a disaster for stability The (real) papers are saying Boris Johnson has secured "well over 100 votes" since returning from Dominican Republic today (but actually closer to 54), so the lying has resumed he forgets the 57 resignations that led to his downfall, and even some say they would drop the Tory Whip / leave the party, causing a wave of by elections and eventual General Election to bring down them all... All the usual suspects, even Liz Truss and Nadine Dorries are backing Boris... you couldn't make it up... Whoever gets 100 genuine votes could be announced as PM as early as Monday evening, so it won't drag on forever...
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Post by WH241 on Oct 22, 2022 20:55:27 GMT
Boris is never going to be a unity candidate, he is love him or hate him There are many conservative MPs who clearly know they are likely to lose seat at next General election based on current polls, and probably have a deluded idea that Boris could be popular and save their seats from being lost as voters will switch back to Boris But of course we have a parliamentary democracy, you don’t vote for an individual like a presidential election (and I know some of the electorate are dumb and think they voted for Boris even if he wasn’t on their ballot paper). But country has moved on, high inflation, cost of living problems, mortgage rates leaping, so called Brexit dividend turning out to be negligible, political stagnation etc Conservatives need stability, and need to be able to show it to Financial markets, if Boris returns will just be internal infighting, resignations and anything but steadying of current mess. He would be a disaster for stability The (real) papers are saying Boris Johnson has secured "well over 100 votes" since returning from Dominican Republic today (but actually closer to 54), so the lying has resumed he forgets the 57 resignations that led to his downfall, and even some say they would drop the Tory Whip / leave the party, causing a wave of by elections and eventual General Election to bring down them all... All the usual suspects, even Liz Truss and Nadine Dorries are backing Boris... you couldn't make it up... Whoever gets 100 genuine votes could be announced as PM as early as Monday evening, so it won't drag on forever... The funny thing is Rishi has over a 100 votes and the favourite yet still hasn’t declared if he will stand! It’s like a really rubbish reality TV show.
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Post by ServerKing on Oct 22, 2022 21:41:19 GMT
The (real) papers are saying Boris Johnson has secured "well over 100 votes" since returning from Dominican Republic today (but actually closer to 54), so the lying has resumed he forgets the 57 resignations that led to his downfall, and even some say they would drop the Tory Whip / leave the party, causing a wave of by elections and eventual General Election to bring down them all... All the usual suspects, even Liz Truss and Nadine Dorries are backing Boris... you couldn't make it up... Whoever gets 100 genuine votes could be announced as PM as early as Monday evening, so it won't drag on forever... The funny thing is Rishi has over a 100 votes and the favourite yet still hasn’t declared if he will stand! It’s like a really rubbish reality TV show. They could call the show Love Ireland that's where everyone tried to get passports for EU after the dreaded Brexit vote. They are now thinking of a "power sharing deal" depending on who wins, as they believe only Boris can beat Sir Keir Starmer in an election www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11344021/Boris-Rishi-meet-TONIGHT-hash-deal-govern-together.htmlThey might as well swap places and Boris is Chancellor this time. Can't do any worse than Kwasi Kwarteng. Boris will blow the lot on buses # #new318s
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Post by capitalomnibus on Oct 22, 2022 22:38:16 GMT
In the same way you are Dianne Abbot 2.0 That makes no sense - if he was Dianne Abbot 2.0, he would be defending Corbyn by saying he is better than Starmer and that he could do no wrong yet that's not he said. His behaviour is very much like the recent Dianne Abbot, his attitude towards routes in Barking/Beckton area and being delusional over a lot of things.
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