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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Jul 9, 2022 21:47:17 GMT
I would highly recommend watching this video, it was actually made before this all kicked off, but it’s worth a watch. Uk politics and society is broken, that man pretty much sums it all up. No matter what party that man was the head of, he should not have been voted for. He’s a lying, racist, homophobic, classist womanizer, to put it bluntly. As someone who can’t vote yet (gotta wait until December  ) I seriously hope my generation won’t make the same mistakes that previous generations made. Thing is, there’s no good party out there tbh, just a better of evils. Obviously in the past the younger generation shift right when they get older. Thankfully with increased education levels this shift heading right as you grow older seems to be diminishing. A lot of Tory voters seem to be in denial and say the education system is skewed to the left, but whether that be true or not increased education levels are linked more with Labour and Green support and that's the fact of the matter. |
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Post by MKAY315 on Jul 9, 2022 22:10:47 GMT
I would highly recommend watching this video, it was actually made before this all kicked off, but it’s worth a watch. Uk politics and society is broken, that man pretty much sums it all up. No matter what party that man was the head of, he should not have been voted for. He’s a lying, racist, homophobic, classist womanizer, to put it bluntly. As someone who can’t vote yet (gotta wait until December ) I seriously hope my generation won’t make the same mistakes that previous generations made. Thing is, there’s no good party out there tbh, just a better of evils. Funny enough I did see this posted on twitter a few weeks back. Thank you for sharing |
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Post by ServerKing on Jul 10, 2022 8:20:15 GMT
Grant Shapps and Nadhim Zahawi are the latest to put themselves foward in the leadership contest! Perhaps TfL can sneak a funding deal through whilst Grant Shapps is distracted 😜 It is about time for another billion  Makes you wonder if other grandiose transport promises will quietly be shelved during this catfight... we have Great British Railways starting next year, and Bojo wanted a national rollout of electric buses  |
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Post by wirewiper on Jul 10, 2022 9:45:49 GMT
Grant Shapps and Nadhim Zahawi are the latest to put themselves foward in the leadership contest! Perhaps TfL can sneak a funding deal through whilst Grant Shapps is distracted 😜 It is about time for another billion Makes you wonder if other grandiose transport promises will quietly be shelved during this catfight... we have Great British Railways starting next year, and Bojo wanted a national rollout of electric buses Great British Railways will start next year, franchising was effectively killed off on 23rd March 2020. However a radical reform of the railway industry is unlikely now for several years, it will regress to a state of managed decline again. The real problem is that transport needs a long-term, integrated and sustained vision and investment, but it does not get this in the UK. Transport Ministers - whether Conservative or Labour - usually only serve for a short period. |
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Jul 10, 2022 16:51:19 GMT
Penny Mourdant has announced her candidacy today. Liz Truss is likely to declare tomorrow. I understand the leadership contest timetable will be decided tomorrow or Tuesday. Current indications are that declarations will close within days, the MPs' votes will conclude on July 21st and the winner announced on or just before September 5th.
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Post by southlondon413 on Jul 10, 2022 17:32:46 GMT
Penny Mourdant has announced her candidacy today. Liz Truss is likely to declare tomorrow. I understand the leadership contest timetable will be decided tomorrow or Tuesday. Current indications are that declarations will close within days, the MPs' votes will conclude on July 21st and the winner announced on or just before September 5th. I’m looking forward to a summer of hustings with the final 2 candidates if we make it that far. Last time I had to go to Excel London, hopefully this time it won’t be such a schlep. |
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Post by snowman on Jul 10, 2022 17:58:09 GMT
Penny Mourdant has announced her candidacy today. Liz Truss is likely to declare tomorrow. I understand the leadership contest timetable will be decided tomorrow or Tuesday. Current indications are that declarations will close within days, the MPs' votes will conclude on July 21st and the winner announced on or just before September 5th. At the moment, need 8 MPs to back your nomination, then in first round must get at least 18 votes to stay in. There are rumours the nomination might be increased from 8 to about 20 when rules are announced. Should narrow field down a bit from those offering candidacy. If the least 2 end up as a clear front runner and an also ran, then sometimes one will stand aside so could be all wrapped up within a fortnight. Difficult to call at the moment as most are pitching various unfunded tax cuts, not clear if anyone will be gullible enough to believe they will happen, and they don’t seem to stay away from mud slinging the other candidates so who is best least worst is anyones guess |
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Post by southlondon413 on Jul 10, 2022 18:17:02 GMT
Penny Mourdant has announced her candidacy today. Liz Truss is likely to declare tomorrow. I understand the leadership contest timetable will be decided tomorrow or Tuesday. Current indications are that declarations will close within days, the MPs' votes will conclude on July 21st and the winner announced on or just before September 5th. At the moment, need 8 MPs to back your nomination, then in first round must get at least 18 votes to stay in. There are rumours the nomination might be increased from 8 to about 20 when rules are announced. Should narrow field down a bit from those offering candidacy. If the least 2 end up as a clear front runner and an also ran, then sometimes one will stand aside so could be all wrapped up within a fortnight. Difficult to call at the moment as most are pitching various unfunded tax cuts, not clear if anyone will be gullible enough to believe they will happen, and they don’t seem to stay away from mud slinging the other candidates so who is best least worst is anyones guess Given how many want it I think it will likely come down to the final two. Unless there is an massive faux pas like Andrea Leadsom made in 2016 it will be on for hustings like 2019. Either way the party as a whole should be involved in the process. I would like my vote and it is important that we get that. |
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Post by SILENCED on Jul 11, 2022 8:03:00 GMT
Easy being in opposition when your words mean so little. For months we have had Labour calling for tax reversals to help with cost of living crisis. Now we have various leadership candidate the shadow DWP spokesperson, is criticising those proposing tax cuts as they will cause economic chaos.
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Post by vjaska on Jul 11, 2022 9:00:20 GMT
Easy being in opposition when your words mean so little. For months we have had Labour calling for tax reversals to help with cost of living crisis. Now we have various leadership candidate the shadow DWP spokesperson, is criticising those proposing tax cuts as they will cause economic chaos. Except Labour have explained how they’d do it (whether you think it would work is a different story) yet candidates other than Sinai pretty much are literally just saying I’d cut taxes without any detail in how. Call people out when appropriate & not just from one party |
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Post by richard on Jul 11, 2022 18:59:05 GMT
New PM to be announced on 5th September
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Post by vjaska on Jul 11, 2022 20:32:25 GMT
Personally, I think all 11 are either awful (12 if Pritti has launched her bid) or out of the 11/12, the 2 more unknown candidates probably be exposed as awful at some point and I certainly think Sunak shouldn't be running given he also got a fixed penalty notice meaning we could end up with two PM's who got fined whilst in government (obviously Sunak wasn't PM but chancellor at the time) which is a terrible look. But on a more serious note, here's a question to anyone on hear who aligns more with the Tories - who is your pick and why? No criticism from me - I'm just being nosy  |
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Post by YX10FFN on Jul 11, 2022 20:49:06 GMT
Personally, I think all 11 are either awful (12 if Pritti has launched her bid) or out of the 11/12, the 2 more unknown candidates probably be exposed as awful at some point and I certainly think Sunak shouldn't be running given he also got a fixed penalty notice meaning we could end up with two PM's who got fined whilst in government (obviously Sunak wasn't PM but chancellor at the time) which is a terrible look. But on a more serious note, here's a question to anyone on hear who aligns more with the Tories - who is your pick and why? No criticism from me - I'm just being nosy I drift between Tories and LD, now more aligned with LD for obvious reasons. I think I'll say who my pick would be, and who I think will probably win. My pick would be Tugendhat, I think he is very capable, moderate and refreshingly hasn't worked in the Johnson government. Having a relative outsider take the reigns until the next GE would hopefully simmer UK politics for a moment, but you never know. In terms of who I think will win, either Sunak or Mordaunt. Both seem to be leading the polls/endorsements but given how wide the field is I couldn't pick one at the moment. Don't have a good feeling about Sunak if I'm honest, I think he would continue the murky feel about the government, given his links to partygate and the questions over his wife's taxes, among other things. And the obvious point that he claims to want to rebuild the economy despite the fact that he's the one that's run the economy the last 3 years. This is why I'd rather someone take over with no links to Johnson or his government. |
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Post by northlondon83 on Jul 11, 2022 21:21:23 GMT
New PM to be announced on 5th September Too far in advance imo, allows Boris to ruin his and the country's reputation even more. Boris never really intended to resign but probably felt that he had no choice when he realised that he lost the support of several MPs |
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Post by southlondon413 on Jul 11, 2022 22:03:43 GMT
New PM to be announced on 5th September Too far in advance imo, allows Boris to ruin his and the country's reputation even more. Boris never really intended to resign but probably felt that he had no choice when he realised that he lost the support of several MPs There is every possibility that Boris is being kept on a very tight leash, in fact I wouldn’t be surprised if he couldn’t make a move without the 1922 committees involvement. So don’t expect any major announcements of policy over the summer, not that there is anyway because of the recess. I would expect many MPs to be out and about in their communities over August to convince them to stick with them rather than focusing on who is sitting in Downing Street. |
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) I seriously hope my generation won’t make the same mistakes that previous generations made. Thing is, there’s no good party out there tbh, just a better of evils. 
