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Post by capitalomnibus on Oct 29, 2022 10:28:22 GMT
Is there any reason why this line is not running this weekend. There does not appear to be no engineering works on the line affecting it. I know the District line does, but surely this does not run on the District line or share any of its tracks. Is there train that runs on this line not stabled overnight at Ilford? If so, why is it this is not running. The drivers that run on this line must love it, because it surely would be many weekends off.
I am sure because of unions train drivers would do nothing when the train lines are down for engineering work etc. that is another example of outdated working practices, while they spend money on additional customer service assistants on the weekend at stations etc.
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Post by borneobus on Oct 29, 2022 11:34:53 GMT
Is there any reason why this line is not running this weekend. There does not appear to be no engineering works on the line affecting it. I know the District line does, but surely this does not run on the District line or share any of its tracks. Is there train that runs on this line not stabled overnight at Ilford? If so, why is it this is not running. The drivers that run on this line must love it, because it surely would be many weekends off. I am sure because of unions train drivers would do nothing when the train lines are down for engineering work etc. that is another example of outdated working practices, while they spend money on additional customer service assistants on the weekend at stations etc. |
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Post by ThinLizzy on Oct 29, 2022 13:51:51 GMT
Is there any reason why this line is not running this weekend. There does not appear to be no engineering works on the line affecting it. I know the District line does, but surely this does not run on the District line or share any of its tracks. Is there train that runs on this line not stabled overnight at Ilford? If so, why is it this is not running. The drivers that run on this line must love it, because it surely would be many weekends off. I am sure because of unions train drivers would do nothing when the train lines are down for engineering work etc. that is another example of outdated working practices, while they spend money on additional customer service assistants on the weekend at stations etc. .pretty sure the Romford Upminster drivers are from a common pool of drivers who also drive other lines, so no fewer weekends off than any other London Overground drivers.The 710s used on the line are stabled at Ilford, along with 710s that are used on other LO routes. Not quite sure what you mean by "outdated working practices." Not quite sure what you expect a train drivers to do if a railway is closed? What would you expect a bus driver to do if there wasn't a bus for them to drive? Usually there's ammended rosters- certainly the railway I work on there would be ammended rosters in place when there's engineering works.. If you look at the TfL website, you'll see there's engineering works. |
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Post by galwhv69 on Oct 29, 2022 16:18:51 GMT
Interesting how you've managed to turn planned engineering works into "outdated working practices" 🤣
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Post by ThinLizzy on Oct 29, 2022 16:31:25 GMT
Interesting how you've managed to turn planned engineering works into "outdated working practices" 🤣 must be that outdated practice of fixing rails and points to ensure they work properly |
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Post by greenboy on Oct 29, 2022 16:57:55 GMT
Interesting how you've managed to turn planned engineering works into "outdated working practices" 🤣 I think he's questioning whether there is engineering work actually taking place on the Romford to Upminister line or whether it's just not operating because of engineering work on the District Line? |
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Post by ThinLizzy on Oct 29, 2022 18:06:36 GMT
Interesting how you've managed to turn planned engineering works into "outdated working practices" 🤣 I think he's questioning whether there is engineering work actually taking place on the Romford to Upminister line or whether it's just not operating because of engineering work on the District Line? could be either- depending on what engineering work is taking place. If works are taking place in close proximity to the Network Rail tracks then, yes, services would preferably be suspended as there would be no place of safety for the track workers Not outdated working practices, ensuring a safe area for works to take place |
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Post by richard on Oct 29, 2022 18:32:25 GMT
Is there any reason why this line is not running this weekend. There does not appear to be no engineering works on the line affecting it. I know the District line does, but surely this does not run on the District line or share any of its tracks. Is there train that runs on this line not stabled overnight at Ilford? If so, why is it this is not running. The drivers that run on this line must love it, because it surely would be many weekends off. I am sure because of unions train drivers would do nothing when the train lines are down for engineering work etc. that is another example of outdated working practices, while they spend money on additional customer service assistants on the weekend at stations etc. I don't think many people will miss it for a weekend it's only a shuttle service anyway i don't see the problem if it closed or not. |
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Post by vjaska on Oct 29, 2022 18:59:39 GMT
I think he's questioning whether there is engineering work actually taking place on the Romford to Upminister line or whether it's just not operating because of engineering work on the District Line? could be either- depending on what engineering work is taking place. If works are taking place in close proximity to the Network Rail tracks then, yes, services would preferably be suspended as there would be no place of safety for the track workers Not outdated working practices, ensuring a safe area for works to take place Isn’t there a shared signalling system at Upminster between the District & Overground lines? |
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Post by greenboy on Oct 29, 2022 19:03:17 GMT
Is there any reason why this line is not running this weekend. There does not appear to be no engineering works on the line affecting it. I know the District line does, but surely this does not run on the District line or share any of its tracks. Is there train that runs on this line not stabled overnight at Ilford? If so, why is it this is not running. The drivers that run on this line must love it, because it surely would be many weekends off. I am sure because of unions train drivers would do nothing when the train lines are down for engineering work etc. that is another example of outdated working practices, while they spend money on additional customer service assistants on the weekend at stations etc. I don't think many people will miss it for a weekend it's only a shuttle service anyway i don't see the problem if it closed or not. In that case may as well close it permanently and turn it into a cycleway or something?🤣 |
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Post by TA1 on Oct 29, 2022 19:25:37 GMT
could be either- depending on what engineering work is taking place. If works are taking place in close proximity to the Network Rail tracks then, yes, services would preferably be suspended as there would be no place of safety for the track workers Not outdated working practices, ensuring a safe area for works to take place Isn’t there a shared signalling system at Upminster between the District & Overground lines? No, the only thing that’s shared is a set of points to the east of Upminster station. 👍🏾 |
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Post by capitalomnibus on Oct 29, 2022 22:18:46 GMT
Is there any reason why this line is not running this weekend. There does not appear to be no engineering works on the line affecting it. I know the District line does, but surely this does not run on the District line or share any of its tracks. Is there train that runs on this line not stabled overnight at Ilford? If so, why is it this is not running. The drivers that run on this line must love it, because it surely would be many weekends off. I am sure because of unions train drivers would do nothing when the train lines are down for engineering work etc. that is another example of outdated working practices, while they spend money on additional customer service assistants on the weekend at stations etc. .pretty sure the Romford Upminster drivers are from a common pool of drivers who also drive other lines, so no fewer weekends off than any other London Overground drivers.The 710s used on the line are stabled at Ilford, along with 710s that are used on other LO routes. Not quite sure what you mean by "outdated working practices." Not quite sure what you expect a train drivers to do if a railway is closed? What would you expect a bus driver to do if there wasn't a bus for them to drive? Usually there's ammended rosters- certainly the railway I work on there would be ammended rosters in place when there's engineering works.. If you look at the TfL website, you'll see there's engineering works. Well I did not see anything listed as engineering works when I looked on the website or went on the line yesterday, just said shut the weekend. If there is no bus for a bus driver to drive, they are loaned to other garages, or made to do admin work in the office etc. To me I cannot understand the need to recruit loads of customer service roles on the weekend, where some drivers may have even did that job role in the past. |
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Post by vjaska on Oct 30, 2022 2:27:41 GMT
Isn’t there a shared signalling system at Upminster between the District & Overground lines? No, the only thing that’s shared is a set of points to the east of Upminster station. 👍🏾 Cheers  |
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Post by ThinLizzy on Oct 30, 2022 7:14:57 GMT
.pretty sure the Romford Upminster drivers are from a common pool of drivers who also drive other lines, so no fewer weekends off than any other London Overground drivers.The 710s used on the line are stabled at Ilford, along with 710s that are used on other LO routes. Not quite sure what you mean by "outdated working practices." Not quite sure what you expect a train drivers to do if a railway is closed? What would you expect a bus driver to do if there wasn't a bus for them to drive? Usually there's ammended rosters- certainly the railway I work on there would be ammended rosters in place when there's engineering works.. If you look at the TfL website, you'll see there's engineering works. Well I did not see anything listed as engineering works when I looked on the website or went on the line yesterday, just said shut the weekend. If there is no bus for a bus driver to drive, they are loaned to other garages, or made to do admin work in the office etc. To me I cannot understand the need to recruit loads of customer service roles on the weekend, where some drivers may have even did that job role in the past. a lot of the weekend customer service staff are students, semi-retired people and enthusiasts. Not sure why you would want to take work away from those people. |
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Post by capitalomnibus on Oct 30, 2022 7:42:27 GMT
Well I did not see anything listed as engineering works when I looked on the website or went on the line yesterday, just said shut the weekend. If there is no bus for a bus driver to drive, they are loaned to other garages, or made to do admin work in the office etc. To me I cannot understand the need to recruit loads of customer service roles on the weekend, where some drivers may have even did that job role in the past. a lot of the weekend customer service staff are students, semi-retired people and enthusiasts. Not sure why you would want to take work away from those people. I agree, but what is the point in paying extra to get people to do it, when you are already paying people who are already within the company to do nothing. I am sure that drivers would not have their rest pattern changed to accommodate engineering works. |
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