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Post by richard on Dec 23, 2022 1:15:38 GMT
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Post by COBO on Dec 23, 2022 1:33:59 GMT
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Post by Gary on Dec 26, 2022 12:32:15 GMT
I hate this big brother society we live in. Let’s forget about this specific incident for a second. Nobody is perfect and we live in a world where everybody is able to scrutinise everything thanks to social media and smart phones. Nobody should fear for their job because of a video that somebody has posted online.
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Post by WH241 on Dec 26, 2022 13:20:46 GMT
I hate this big brother society we live in. Let’s forget about this specific incident for a second. Nobody is perfect and we live in a world where everybody is able to scrutinise everything thanks to social media and smart phones. Nobody should fear for their job because of a video that somebody has posted online. You are so right people are so quick to get their phones out and film anything to post online. This type of thing with drivers is nothing new. I can still remember a incident from nearly 30 years ago when a driver on a 257 stopped his bus close to Leyton bus garage to get a drink in a shop. I only remember the incident so we’ll because I had skipped school that day and was on the bus out of my area. |
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Post by pilk on Dec 26, 2022 13:46:13 GMT
I hate this big brother society we live in. Let’s forget about this specific incident for a second. Nobody is perfect and we live in a world where everybody is able to scrutinise everything thanks to social media and smart phones. Nobody should fear for their job because of a video that somebody has posted online. So on that basis the police officer who killed George Floyd should have kept their job? It's the same as the old addage about CCTV, if you're doing nothing wrong you've got nothing to worry about. I doubt the bus driver will lose their job for going in the chicken shop but I think management might want a word with him about it. |
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Post by southlondon413 on Dec 26, 2022 14:06:23 GMT
I hate this big brother society we live in. Let’s forget about this specific incident for a second. Nobody is perfect and we live in a world where everybody is able to scrutinise everything thanks to social media and smart phones. Nobody should fear for their job because of a video that somebody has posted online. So on that basis the police officer who killed George Floyd should have kept their job? It's the same as the old addage about CCTV, if you're doing nothing wrong you've got nothing to worry about. I doubt the bus driver will lose their job for going in the chicken shop but I think management might want a word with him about it. I think you’re conflating two wildly different scenarios to prove your point. One was excessive police force that lead to the death of a man and the other is stopping to visit a chicken shop. It’s apples and oranges really. |
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Post by pilk on Dec 26, 2022 14:09:52 GMT
So on that basis the police officer who killed George Floyd should have kept their job? It's the same as the old addage about CCTV, if you're doing nothing wrong you've got nothing to worry about. I doubt the bus driver will lose their job for going in the chicken shop but I think management might want a word with him about it. I think you’re conflating two wildly different scenarios to prove your point. One was excessive police force that lead to the death of a man and the other is stopping to visit a chicken shop. It’s apples and oranges really. They were both filmed by members of the public, whether we like it or not it's part and parcel of day to day life nowadays. |
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Post by Gary on Dec 26, 2022 14:27:18 GMT
I hate this big brother society we live in. Let’s forget about this specific incident for a second. Nobody is perfect and we live in a world where everybody is able to scrutinise everything thanks to social media and smart phones. Nobody should fear for their job because of a video that somebody has posted online. So on that basis the police officer who killed George Floyd should have kept their job? It's the same as the old addage about CCTV, if you're doing nothing wrong you've got nothing to worry about. I doubt the bus driver will lose their job for going in the chicken shop but I think management might want a word with him about it. Rubbish. You cannot compare the two. Let me give you a scenario that also throws your last point into doubt. I once worked in security at a UK airport. A colleague missed a liquid - probably 150ml of liquid in a 500ml bottle. There was no additional threat as the technology would have detected if said liquid was potentially explosive, however it was of course a breach of conformance. Said passenger thought it would be smart to post on Twitter that they had managed to get the liquid through. The meds team informed security, who had no choice but to call it through as a breach of security as that was the process. That meant that the police had to attend, on blues, and everyone was now hunting for this passenger. End result: - passenger missed flight - multiple managers out hunting for passenger for 20 mins - multiple police officers attended - security person investigated - gross misconduct! |
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Post by northlondon83 on Dec 26, 2022 14:30:19 GMT
I think you’re conflating two wildly different scenarios to prove your point. One was excessive police force that lead to the death of a man and the other is stopping to visit a chicken shop. It’s apples and oranges really. They were both filmed by members of the public, whether we like it or not it's part and parcel of day to day life nowadays. Like others have said they are two very different scenarios As for the driver who stopped at the chicken shop, I don't see it as being too much of an issue, after all drivers need food but perhaps it would be sensible to take food of your own |
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Post by pilk on Dec 26, 2022 14:34:16 GMT
So on that basis the police officer who killed George Floyd should have kept their job? It's the same as the old addage about CCTV, if you're doing nothing wrong you've got nothing to worry about. I doubt the bus driver will lose their job for going in the chicken shop but I think management might want a word with him about it. Rubbish. You cannot compare the two. Let me give you a scenario that also throws your last point into doubt. I once worked in security at a UK airport. A colleague missed a liquid - probably 150ml of liquid in a 500ml bottle. There was no additional threat as the technology would have detected if said liquid was potentially explosive, however it was of course a breach of conformance. Said passenger thought it would be smart to post on Twitter that they had managed to get the liquid through. The meds team informed security, who had no choice but to call it through as a breach of security as that was the process. That meant that the police had to attend, on blues, and everyone was now hunting for this passenger. End result: - passenger missed flight - multiple managers out hunting for passenger for 20 mins - multiple police officers attended - security person investigated - gross misconduct! And maybe your colleague will miss something more serious next time? |
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Post by Gary on Dec 26, 2022 14:35:59 GMT
Rubbish. You cannot compare the two. Let me give you a scenario that also throws your last point into doubt. I once worked in security at a UK airport. A colleague missed a liquid - probably 150ml of liquid in a 500ml bottle. There was no additional threat as the technology would have detected if said liquid was potentially explosive, however it was of course a breach of conformance. Said passenger thought it would be smart to post on Twitter that they had managed to get the liquid through. The meds team informed security, who had no choice but to call it through as a breach of security as that was the process. That meant that the police had to attend, on blues, and everyone was now hunting for this passenger. End result: - passenger missed flight - multiple managers out hunting for passenger for 20 mins - multiple police officers attended - security person investigated - gross misconduct! And maybe your colleague will miss something more serious next time? Are you a robot? Do you live your life without making any mistakes? Do you live your life without making bad judgments? Let’s all bow down to you because you’re clearly perfect in every way. |
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Post by pilk on Dec 26, 2022 14:48:39 GMT
And maybe your colleague will miss something more serious next time? Are you a robot? Do you live your life without making any mistakes? Do you live your life without making bad judgments? Let’s all bow down to you because you’re clearly perfect in every way. Just the sort of nonsense I expect on here. |
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Post by northlondon83 on Dec 26, 2022 16:39:11 GMT
Are you a robot? Do you live your life without making any mistakes? Do you live your life without making bad judgments? Let’s all bow down to you because you’re clearly perfect in every way. Just the sort of nonsense I expect on here. If you're expecting nonsense, which clearly Gary isn't on about, rather it's you who's talking nonsense, then why are you on here? I really hope this isn't the start of another pointless argument because it was only a few days since the last one |
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Post by pilk on Dec 26, 2022 17:13:21 GMT
Just the sort of nonsense I expect on here. If you're expecting nonsense, which clearly Gary isn't on about, rather it's you who's talking nonsense, then why are you on here? I really hope this isn't the start of another pointless argument because it was only a few days since the last one And you're regularly accused of posting nonsense on here. |
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Post by vjaska on Dec 26, 2022 17:13:47 GMT
I think you’re conflating two wildly different scenarios to prove your point. One was excessive police force that lead to the death of a man and the other is stopping to visit a chicken shop. It’s apples and oranges really. They were both filmed by members of the public, whether we like it or not it's part and parcel of day to day life nowadays. Personally, the biggest issue for me is why people are bothered that a driver has stopped off for food - providing he isn't there for a long time, it wouldn't be an issue for me as a passenger on the bus. I can remember this happening with some Arriva drivers on the 2 who'd stop off at a particular cafe for a tea/coffee or to get change (this was pre cashless payment on buses) and I wasn't that bothered by it admittedly. |
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