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Post by BK15AZR on Feb 9, 2023 22:45:02 GMT
The City Hall stand hasn't been used by any route since the 343 was extended to Aldgate.
The 277 used to terminate at Cartier Circle and Stebondale Street. Both stands are no longer in use now - the latter has been repurposed by Tower Hamlets Council as parking lots although the "Bus Stop" road markings can still be seen.
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Post by vjaska on Feb 10, 2023 0:59:42 GMT
Brixton has had a few movements with stands in more recent times:
The Lambeth Town Hall one way system when the full triangle was one way had two stands (the existing one on Effra Road, albeit slightly re-sited & one on Brixton Hill right opposite the Effra Road one) and these were used mainly by the P4 over the last few decades but saw frequent turns from some of the terminating routes in Brixton like the 109, 118 & 250 which would avoid going into Brixton by using the then slip road from Brixton Hill into Effra Road. The 355 also stood at these stands when it was first extended to Brixton via Clapham North but this was stopped after it was diverted via Clapham Park. When Brixton Hill went two way, the stand on that road was removed as well as the slip road and thus, 109's, 118's & 250's ceased turning there.
The Brixton Academy one way system had stands on both Stockwell Road & like the present day, on Stockwell Park Walk those these were opposite where the current ones are (the current stands was partly where Bus Stop B was which served Gresham Road bound buses). These were almost exclusively for routes like the 2 (Anerley/Palace to Brixton journeys only), 109, 118, 196, 250, 355, 432, among others as well as curtailments for the 345 & P4 (marked as Brixton Police Station on blinds), the latter of which still curtails there on occasions. This changed when the contra flow bus lane was introduced on Stockwell Road, Bus Stop B moved and the stands on Stockwell Road removed with the ones on Stockwell Park Walk switched to the opposite side of the road - this also saw a bus only right hand turn installed from Brixton Road to Gresham Road necessitating the diversion of the 35, 45, 345 & P4 via Stockwell Park Walk.
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Post by MKAY315 on Feb 10, 2023 6:56:11 GMT
So there's some stands that come to mind for me. The Westbourne Drive terminal at Forest Hill though I'm not sure if some buses still stop short there in emergencies and the Leytonstone Green Man terminus (J115 WSC is the bus on my display picture for those wondering, and that ironically was taken there)
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Post by wirewiper on Feb 10, 2023 8:13:24 GMT
Wealdstone, Grant Road - never a regular terminus, bus used by buses on routes 186 and 286 when curtailed short of Harrow. Buses set down and took any stand time at a special stop in Grant Road, then ran via Grant Road, Byron Road and Masons Avenue to pick up service again at Harrow & Wealdstone Station. Looking at the first two side-roads today it seems amazing that full-size buses could ever navigate them. The turn is not possible today as the entrance to Grant Road was cut off when George Gange Way was constructed.
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Post by ronnie on Feb 10, 2023 10:19:05 GMT
Isn’t there one somewhere in Upton Park (from memory on Stukeley Road but I could be mixing up streets, saw it only once when I was in the area to pick up something)? Was quite surprised to see a stand there as it’s on a narrow residential street !
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Post by WH241 on Feb 10, 2023 10:32:39 GMT
Isn’t there one somewhere in Upton Park (from memory on Stukeley Road but I could be mixing up streets, saw it only once when I was in the area to pick up something)? Was quite surprised to see a stand there as it’s on a narrow residential street ! That’s the stand for Upton Park Station. I rarely see this turn being used. |
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Post by towerman on Feb 10, 2023 11:39:37 GMT
Gloucester Rd Leyton,terminus for trolley bus route 696 & it’s replacement the 26.There was a trolley bus turn off Hoe St via Shaftesbury Rd I think it was.Is Becontree Ave in Forest Rd still used?
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Post by joefrombow on Feb 10, 2023 12:18:41 GMT
Old Ford , (Ruston Street) a few 8's used to curtail there even post 2004 when the route used to run to Victoria and even Oxford Circ but doubt the LT's can get round the loop now was tight back then don't know if the Stand Flag is still there .
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Post by Ted Barclay on Feb 10, 2023 14:50:57 GMT
Brixton has had a few movements with stands in more recent times: The Lambeth Town Hall one way system when the full triangle was one way had two stands (the existing one on Effra Road, albeit slightly re-sited & one on Brixton Hill right opposite the Effra Road one) and these were used mainly by the P4 over the last few decades but saw frequent turns from some of the terminating routes in Brixton like the 109, 118 & 250 which would avoid going into Brixton by using the then slip road from Brixton Hill into Effra Road. The 355 also stood at these stands when it was first extended to Brixton via Clapham North but this was stopped after it was diverted via Clapham Park. When Brixton Hill went two way, the stand on that road was removed as well as the slip road and thus, 109's, 118's & 250's ceased turning there. The Brixton Academy one way system had stands on both Stockwell Road & like the present day, on Stockwell Park Walk those these were opposite where the current ones are (the current stands was partly where Bus Stop B was which served Gresham Road bound buses). These were almost exclusively for routes like the 2 (Anerley/Palace to Brixton journeys only), 109, 118, 196, 250, 355, 432, among others as well as curtailments for the 345 & P4 (marked as Brixton Police Station on blinds), the latter of which still curtails there on occasions. This changed when the contra flow bus lane was introduced on Stockwell Road, Bus Stop B moved and the stands on Stockwell Road removed with the ones on Stockwell Park Walk switched to the opposite side of the road - this also saw a bus only right hand turn installed from Brixton Road to Gresham Road necessitating the diversion of the 35, 45, 345 & P4 via Stockwell Park Walk. In the 1950s when the one-way system was introduced the Lambeth Town Hall stand working used to have time restrictions. The Effra Road stand had to used in the morning and the Brixton Hill one in the afternoon and evening. I think the changeover time was about 14:00. This arrangement was imposed by the authorities so that standing buses didn’t cause problems with the peak hour traffic flows. Before Stockwell Park Walk was widened buses from the south used to use a stand in St. John’s Crescent (to north of Gresham Road). There was a frequent service on the 109 which used Vassall Road stand as it would have overloaded St. John’s Crescent. Ted B |
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Post by rugbyref on Feb 10, 2023 16:40:56 GMT
Very occasionally, the 134 towards Potters Bar would terminate at Whetstone, the Griffin. I am not sure the pub even exists any longer?
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Post by Catford94 on Feb 10, 2023 19:48:48 GMT
Another great, disappeared terminus is Victoria and Albert Docks. Another classic ex-trolleybus turning circle, it was very much the end of the line: it was only in 1986 or 87 that the 278 was extended beyond it over the then single track Connaught Bridge to North Woolwich when traffic lights were installed. I don't think any trace of it remains.
Yes - that one occurred to me after posting yesterday. I only knew it in the mid 80s (probably only went there once) and I'd agree about it having an 'end of the line' feel about it... I have seen photos from the 60s / 70s which included a reasonable size shelter, but think that had gone by then.
Agree - don't think there's anything visible left (i think it's here) unless it's in the undergrowth |
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Post by Catford94 on Feb 10, 2023 20:40:24 GMT
Very occasionally, the 134 towards Potters Bar would terminate at Whetstone, the Griffin. I am not sure the pub even exists any longer?
100 used to run to Beckton Gas Works, 23C / 62 to Creekmouth Power Station, and a number of routes to Ford's at Dagenham and Dagenham Dock.
The 108 used to terminate at Bow 'Seven Stars', later Edgar Street - I'm not sure whether this was a re-naming, or making the route live to a stand in Edgar Street. There is a current stand close to the former 'Seven Stars' (now flats.)
At its southern end, the weekday 108 was cut back to Lower Sydenham, Fairlawn Park when the 108B was introduced. This isn't even a recognised short working now.
Forest Hill, Westbourne Drive is another one that used to be terminus for a few routes (124 and 171 and at times regular 122's) - it's still a stand for short turns. 176A used to terminate at the 'Railway Telegraph' but I'm not sure where the stand was.
The current 273 initially ran a short loop at the Horn Park Estate end and returned via Westhorne Avenue towards Lewisham.
Hayes Station (the one near Bromley) used to have a few 51 journeys extended north from Farnborough, to suit Farnborough Hospital visiting times, and route 119 had some peak hour shuttles Bromley North - Hayes.
A few now closed hospitals had regular journeys - in some cases Sundays only, 124A to Bexley Hospital, 88 to Banstead Hospital (although Highdown Prison is on the site, not sure how close the current 80 stand is to the old stand.)
If we're allowing country bus terminus points in the current TFL area,Orpington, Kelvin Parade, was a terminus for odd journeys on country area / London Country 477 (I'm not sure if there was a passenger objective here, or if it was just to take pressure off Orpington Station stand) and is no longer served. Belvedere, Crabtree Manor Way and Generating Station, and Crayford Ness all had works journeys off Dartford routes. |
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Post by towerman on Feb 10, 2023 22:55:53 GMT
Can remember when the 108 terminated at Clapton Pond using low height DDs(RLH)out of Dalston garage.
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Post by COBO on Feb 10, 2023 23:04:21 GMT
The 94 used to have journeys terminating at Shepherds Bush Princess Victoria I believe it was a pub I remember because I remember seeing e-titles of the 94 on Uxbridge Road as a kid in the 90s.
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Post by vjaska on Feb 10, 2023 23:18:49 GMT
Brixton has had a few movements with stands in more recent times: The Lambeth Town Hall one way system when the full triangle was one way had two stands (the existing one on Effra Road, albeit slightly re-sited & one on Brixton Hill right opposite the Effra Road one) and these were used mainly by the P4 over the last few decades but saw frequent turns from some of the terminating routes in Brixton like the 109, 118 & 250 which would avoid going into Brixton by using the then slip road from Brixton Hill into Effra Road. The 355 also stood at these stands when it was first extended to Brixton via Clapham North but this was stopped after it was diverted via Clapham Park. When Brixton Hill went two way, the stand on that road was removed as well as the slip road and thus, 109's, 118's & 250's ceased turning there. The Brixton Academy one way system had stands on both Stockwell Road & like the present day, on Stockwell Park Walk those these were opposite where the current ones are (the current stands was partly where Bus Stop B was which served Gresham Road bound buses). These were almost exclusively for routes like the 2 (Anerley/Palace to Brixton journeys only), 109, 118, 196, 250, 355, 432, among others as well as curtailments for the 345 & P4 (marked as Brixton Police Station on blinds), the latter of which still curtails there on occasions. This changed when the contra flow bus lane was introduced on Stockwell Road, Bus Stop B moved and the stands on Stockwell Road removed with the ones on Stockwell Park Walk switched to the opposite side of the road - this also saw a bus only right hand turn installed from Brixton Road to Gresham Road necessitating the diversion of the 35, 45, 345 & P4 via Stockwell Park Walk. In the 1950s when the one-way system was introduced the Lambeth Town Hall stand working used to have time restrictions. The Effra Road stand had to used in the morning and the Brixton Hill one in the afternoon and evening. I think the changeover time was about 14:00. This arrangement was imposed by the authorities so that standing buses didn’t cause problems with the peak hour traffic flows. Before Stockwell Park Walk was widened buses from the south used to use a stand in St. John’s Crescent (to north of Gresham Road). There was a frequent service on the 109 which used Vassall Road stand as it would have overloaded St. John’s Crescent. Ted B Interesting read, thanks for sharing and informing me - out of interest, where abouts was the St John's Crescent stand on the road? |
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