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Post by Ted Barclay on Feb 10, 2023 23:22:48 GMT
Can remember when the 108 terminated at Clapton Pond using low height DDs(RLH)out of Dalston garage. Possibly you might mean 178?
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Post by jm on Feb 10, 2023 23:53:22 GMT
Harrow Weald Masefield Avenue which used to be a school journey extension on the 140 replaced by the 640 going to clamp hill Wembley Trading Estate used to be a regular short journey on the 182
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Feb 11, 2023 5:18:53 GMT
I remember when the original route 2 (not the current route 2, formerly 2b) terminated at West Norwood "Rosendale". That section is now covered by route 322 running through to Crystal Palace. I doubt any 322 journeys terminate at the Rosendale. I don't know whether that pub even still exists.
Route 86 previously terminating at Limehouse was mentioned above. For a while that section was covered by route 278. It does seem odd that there is no longer a direct link from Limehouse to Stratford.
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Post by greenboy on Feb 11, 2023 7:50:23 GMT
A few more that come to mind..
Addiscombe Black Horse, used by the 289 before it was extended to Elmers End and by the 50 and 59A before that as well as short workings on the 12A. The pub is long gone and changes to the road layout mean it would no longer be possible to turn buses there.
Green Street Green, the 51A used to stand in the Rose & Crown car park.
Gordon Crescent off Morland Road in Croydon, used by the 197 for curtailments at East Croydon Leslie Arms in the days when it went to Caterham Valley.
Lower Sydenham Fairlawn Park, used for curtailments on the 75 and 108B from the Catford direction and 194's curtailed at Sydenham Dolphin from the other direction.
New Addington The Coppins, used by local service C5 and occasional curtailments on the 130A/B.
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Post by wirewiper on Feb 11, 2023 8:20:07 GMT
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Post by aaron1 on Feb 11, 2023 8:53:27 GMT
Roundwood Pack use to be terminus for the 52 and N52 before Metroline got the route the stand is still there but not seen it use not even the 206 and 226 use it If Metroline lost the 6, 98, 297 and 460 it can be terminus again
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Post by kmkcheng on Feb 11, 2023 9:34:29 GMT
Roundwood Pack use to be terminus for the 52 and N52 before Metroline got the route the stand is still there but not seen it use not even the 206 and 226 use it If Metroline lost the 6, 98, 297 and 460 it can be terminus again Only the 297 would terminate at Roundwood Park. The 6, 52, 98 and 460 would all terminate at Church End.
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Post by greg on Feb 11, 2023 12:02:50 GMT
Camden Town terminus at Camden Gardens has been deserted since the 88 was extended to Parliament Hill Fields - believe its now the stand for curtailing routes bar the 27 which uses Ferdinand Street
Euston, Cardington Street - I remember the 18 use to stand here instead of the bus station but was too young to know why - as of cant happen as the road is blocked by HS2
Camden, Hawley Road - Also a stand for curtailing routes usually the 27 when Morrisons was blocked but don't think its been used for years. Sometimes 24/168 stand when curtailed to Camden Town as it serves a stop earlier southbound but rare
Fitzrovia, Grafton Way - Existing bus stop for the 18, 30 and 205 before UCLH was converted to Two-Way became a stand temporarily and I believe is still there and unused since the 134 took over the 14 stand instead
St Giles, Tottenham Court Road - Existing stand for 134 before it was cut back and for a short while after Tottenham Court Road was converted to two-way. I believe it is now the official stand for the N253 however never used as I think theres a cycle lane now and the N253s stand with the N68 and N242 instead alongside N1/N8 as usual
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Post by towerman on Feb 11, 2023 12:20:00 GMT
Can remember when the 108 terminated at Clapton Pond using low height DDs(RLH)out of Dalston garage. Possibly you might mean 178? Think you’re right.
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Post by redexpress on Feb 11, 2023 12:21:04 GMT
The 94 used to have journeys terminating at Shepherds Bush Princess Victoria I believe it was a pub I remember because I remember seeing e-titles of the 94 on Uxbridge Road as a kid in the 90s. The 94 had journeys that started from Princess Victoria in the am peak but I don't think there were any journeys *to* Princess Victoria. Those journeys had originally started from East Acton, Du Cane Road, before being cut back to start from Princess Victoria in 1998.
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Post by redexpress on Feb 11, 2023 12:26:35 GMT
Fitzrovia, Grafton Way - Existing bus stop for the 18, 30 and 205 before UCLH was converted to Two-Way became a stand temporarily and I believe is still there and unused since the 134 took over the 14 stand instead St Giles, Tottenham Court Road - Existing stand for 134 before it was cut back and for a short while after Tottenham Court Road was converted to two-way. I believe it is now the official stand for the N253 however never used as I think theres a cycle lane now and the N253s stand with the N68 and N242 instead alongside N1/N8 as usual In the same area there used to be a stand on Maple Street, as well as an overflow stand which was either on Fitzroy Street or on the western portion of Grafton Way (can't remember now). I believe this was a former trolleybus terminus, initally used by the 253 (among others) when the trolleybuses were withdrawn. It still saw occasional use in the 1990s by curtailed buses, although by then I think many drivers were unaware of its location.
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Post by wirewiper on Feb 11, 2023 12:41:02 GMT
The 94 used to have journeys terminating at Shepherds Bush Princess Victoria I believe it was a pub I remember because I remember seeing e-titles of the 94 on Uxbridge Road as a kid in the 90s. The 94 had journeys that started from Princess Victoria in the am peak but I don't think there were any journeys *to* Princess Victoria. Those journeys had originally started from East Acton, Du Cane Road, before being cut back to start from Princess Victoria in 1998. The journeys that started from Princess Victoria were unidirectional, three in the morning peak period to add extra capacity towards the Underground at Shepherd's Bush. When introduced in July 1991 they started at East Acton, Du Cane Road but this changed to the Princess Victoria at the beginning of January 1998 - I believe the buses ran out of service from S via Goldhawk Road and Askew Road, turning right into Uxbridge Road and becoming "live" at the Princess Victoria stop. These journeys were withdrawn at the end of March 2003 and there were never any equivalent journeys in the evening peak.
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Post by Paul on Feb 11, 2023 12:52:00 GMT
If we're allowing country bus terminus points in the current TFL area,Orpington, Kelvin Parade, was a terminus for odd journeys on country area / London Country 477 (I'm not sure if there was a passenger objective here, or if it was just to take pressure off Orpington Station stand) and is no longer served. When I was on the R7s I used to take evening meal breaks in the area instead of returning to the garage and used to turn the bus around using Kelvin Parade with no issues whatsoever. It would only take painting a bus cage to reinstate the stand and I think it would be useful to send perhaps the R5/R10 and B14 up there to reduce the pressure on the Orpington Station stand. It would be handy to have somewhere to park rail replacement buses as well And as a general note, this thread is the sort of stuff I really enjoy. My contribution would be the old ‘Bickley’ stand for the 227. There was a stand on Shawfield Park, accessed via Widmore Road and Chislehurst Road with a cage and flag located on the left hand side at the end of Shawfield Park. I always thought it would have been a handy curtailment point for the 269 but as far as I’m aware it fell out of use when the 227 was withdrawn between Chislehurst and Bromley North
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Post by wirewiper on Feb 11, 2023 13:27:18 GMT
Fitzrovia, Grafton Way - Existing bus stop for the 18, 30 and 205 before UCLH was converted to Two-Way became a stand temporarily and I believe is still there and unused since the 134 took over the 14 stand instead St Giles, Tottenham Court Road - Existing stand for 134 before it was cut back and for a short while after Tottenham Court Road was converted to two-way. I believe it is now the official stand for the N253 however never used as I think theres a cycle lane now and the N253s stand with the N68 and N242 instead alongside N1/N8 as usual In the same area there used to be a stand on Maple Street, as well as an overflow stand which was either on Fitzroy Street or on the western portion of Grafton Way (can't remember now). I believe this was a former trolleybus terminus, initally used by the 253 (among others) when the trolleybuses were withdrawn. It still saw occasional use in the 1990s by curtailed buses, although by then I think many drivers were unaware of its location. The stand on Maple Street was used by trolleybuses on routes 627, 629 and 653 terminating at "Tottenham Court Road" and was also used by the 253 bus (also the 269 until it was withdrawn in September 1968). The stand may have moved to Howland Street at some point but the 253 bus continued to terminate in this area until May 1991 when it was cut back to Mornington Crescent (it was extended to Euston Bus Station in September 1992). Latterly the location was blinded as "WARREN STREET STN Post Office Tower" which was a far more useful locator.
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Post by vjaska on Feb 11, 2023 13:27:18 GMT
I remember when the original route 2 (not the current route 2, formerly 2b) terminated at West Norwood "Rosendale". That section is now covered by route 322 running through to Crystal Palace. I doubt any 322 journeys terminate at the Rosendale. I don't know whether that pub even still exists. Route 86 previously terminating at Limehouse was mentioned above. For a while that section was covered by route 278. It does seem odd that there is no longer a direct link from Limehouse to Stratford. The Rosendale pub is still there, really nice place - my nans wake was held there. There is still a stand as well just up the road but it’s rarely used as 322’s normally would turn short at West Norwood instead
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