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Post by yunus on Nov 19, 2023 20:52:13 GMT
So SL1 would be starting on Saturday 9th December 2023 The first bus would depart North Finchley at 05:00 would be running number [AD1] and would start of as 15 mins headway until the peak would be 12 minute headway (ie.e 5 bus per hour) The first Walthamstow departure would be 05:20 Daily first buses would be as above with last buses leaving Walthamstow 00:50 and North Finchley 00:30 Known yet of the vehicle type it will use? |
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Post by Busboy105 on Nov 19, 2023 22:41:41 GMT
So SL1 would be starting on Saturday 9th December 2023 The first bus would depart North Finchley at 05:00 would be running number [AD1] and would start of as 15 mins headway until the peak would be 12 minute headway (ie.e 5 bus per hour) The first Walthamstow departure would be 05:20 Daily first buses would be as above with last buses leaving Walthamstow 00:50 and North Finchley 00:30 Known yet of the vehicle type it will use? Some will come from the 34's cut. The rest I guess we'll see |
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Post by capitalomnibus on Nov 19, 2023 23:13:55 GMT
So SL1 would be starting on Saturday 9th December 2023 The first bus would depart North Finchley at 05:00 would be running number [AD1] and would start of as 15 mins headway until the peak would be 12 minute headway (ie.e 5 bus per hour) The first Walthamstow departure would be 05:20 Daily first buses would be as above with last buses leaving Walthamstow 00:50 and North Finchley 00:30 Known yet of the vehicle type it will use? It is meant to be HV's but there are plans with a few routes of allocation changes. |
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Post by capitalomnibus on Nov 19, 2023 23:15:16 GMT
Staggering prices there, mainly the bus stop publicity prices on the SL6  |
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Post by matthieu1221 on Nov 20, 2023 17:07:26 GMT
I'll be honest, really don't see the point of this FOI request- of course, the branding is going to cost an amount of money to brand vehicles, order blinds (where needed) and install roadside information/publicity I knew blinds were expensive but not that much! It's interesting there is no costs for the SL6 and SL7 as they needed new blinds. I agree about the FOI and said similar in the past but sadly the internet has made people want and expect answers for everything without considering the costs. As much as I know people love the good old blinds here i guess we now know how much money is being saved by finally moving on to electronic displays like the rest of the world! |
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Post by WH241 on Nov 20, 2023 17:48:26 GMT
I honestly can't believe £132,000 has been spent on starting up the SL6 (Excluding blinds). What an absolute waste of money! I bet the next tender will also be expensive with no crosslinks being possible. I think the SL6 really should have been left as the X68.
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Post by southlondonbus on Nov 20, 2023 19:20:22 GMT
I honestly can't believe £132,000 has been spent on starting up the SL6 (Excluding blinds). What an absolute waste of money! I bet the next tender will also be expensive with no crosslinks being possible. I think the SL6 really should have been left as the X68. I agree on both counts. The fact it cost this much for branding, bus stops etc and the fact like you said it has removed the possibility of crosslinks. I remember not the last tender but the one before had a lot of crosslinks from the 363? and some school routes which obviously improved utilisation of the buses. OR taken a punt on an 18 month trial to see if running the route all day in both directions and dare I say it drop the freq of the 68 and 468 to every 10 mins with 5 mins still on the overlap but with the X68 every 15 mins giving a faster link from West Norwood to Waterloo/Aldwych/Holborn and an all day central London link to the train and tubeless Upper Norwood. |
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Post by elshad on Nov 20, 2023 22:54:08 GMT
Have only just noticed that the multi-coloured stripe between the red and white sections of the livery only runs on the left side of the bus. Seems a strange decision.
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Post by greenboy on Nov 21, 2023 7:50:42 GMT
I honestly can't believe £132,000 has been spent on starting up the SL6 (Excluding blinds). What an absolute waste of money! I bet the next tender will also be expensive with no crosslinks being possible. I think the SL6 really should have been left as the X68. Ridiculous waste of money and I wouldn't be surprised if this nonsense ultimately ends up killing the route off, I'm surprised it's lasted as long as it has. |
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Post by busman on Nov 21, 2023 12:02:57 GMT
I may have missed it, but does anyone have an update on what’s happening with the SL5 consultation response? It’s gone awfully quiet on that route compared to the others.
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Post by TB123 on Nov 21, 2023 12:03:30 GMT
I may have missed it, but does anyone have an update on what’s happening with the SL5 consultation response? It’s gone awfully quiet on that route compared to the others. There's some stuff going on in the background but I would imagine stuff will become clearer in time |
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Post by SILENCED on Nov 21, 2023 12:15:27 GMT
I may have missed it, but does anyone have an update on what’s happening with the SL5 consultation response? It’s gone awfully quiet on that route compared to the others. There's some stuff going on in the background but I would imagine stuff will become clearer in time Have they worked out having such a short express route is pretty pointless? |
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Post by busman on Nov 21, 2023 12:16:09 GMT
I may have missed it, but does anyone have an update on what’s happening with the SL5 consultation response? It’s gone awfully quiet on that route compared to the others. There's some stuff going on in the background but I would imagine stuff will become clearer in time Not surprised. It’s a bit of an outlier from the other routes. Ideally it would be merged with the SL3 and decked, but it has to be a single decker due to low bridges in the area which limits the potential to merge with another SL route. Width restrictions at West Wickham make Red Lodge Road a non-starter unless the restrictions are not associated with vehicle weight. Decking the route via other roads will probably mean diverting it closer to the tram which will negate the benefits of a fast service to Croydon. If the SL4 is planned to be single deck, it could be merged for a Canary Wharf - Bromley - Croydon route. But that would mean delayed launch and some rethinking of the stopping pattern of the SL4 between Grove Park and Shooters Hill. Poor old SL5. |
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Post by ADH45258 on Nov 21, 2023 13:28:05 GMT
There's some stuff going on in the background but I would imagine stuff will become clearer in time Have they worked out having such a short express route is pretty pointless? I don't think the length matters too much, would there be a lot of demand for instance to travel from Sutton to Bromley, or from Croydon to Sidcup? The SL2 I expect will be mostly used for shorter journeys, since the Overground is available between Walthamstow and Barking. The main point of the superloop really is to make orbital journeys in outer London faster, regardless of how far you are travelling. There probably isn't much demand to travel all the way from Harrow to North Finchley, but the SL10 will improve journeys for passengers going from Harrow to Kingsbury for example. However I can see the SL5 being popular for travelling specifically between Croydon and Bromley, and so a slightly less direct route might be preferable if it allows DDs to be used. For example going via Manor Park Road and South Eden Park Road. |
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Post by cl54 on Nov 21, 2023 14:55:34 GMT
I knew blinds were expensive but not that much! It's interesting there is no costs for the SL6 and SL7 as they needed new blinds. I agree about the FOI and said similar in the past but sadly the internet has made people want and expect answers for everything without considering the costs. As much as I know people love the good old blinds here i guess we now know how much money is being saved by finally moving on to electronic displays like the rest of the world! when the units cost 4 or 5 times as much as smart blinds? |
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