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Post by ronnie on Jul 3, 2023 6:50:13 GMT
I was at Greenwich park yesterday and there was a dog wandering around without leash - although the owner was nearby. I was with my toddler in buggy so instinctively walked away after giving the lady a big glare (the dog had come close to see the baby which made her paranoid)
People need to do more frankly
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Post by southlondon413 on Jul 3, 2023 7:01:44 GMT
I was at Greenwich park yesterday and there was a dog wandering around without leash - although the owner was nearby. I was with my toddler in buggy so instinctively walked away after giving the lady a big glare (the dog had come close to see the baby which made her paranoid) People need to do more frankly But it’s entirely down to how the owner has raised the dog. A close friend has a blue staffie and he is the sweetest, calmest and gentlest dog I’ve ever known. They’ve set boundaries with him so he knows where he can go in their house and when to approach their baby. But they’ve done the same with their child, so he also knows how to behave around the dog. It’s like when you hear stories of parents who allow their children to just touch random dogs, is it still the owner’s responsibility if their child doesn’t know how to behave around a dog and gets bitten? Whilst they probably should have their dog on a leash they know their dog a lot better than you do. |
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Post by ronnie on Jul 3, 2023 7:44:48 GMT
I was at Greenwich park yesterday and there was a dog wandering around without leash - although the owner was nearby. I was with my toddler in buggy so instinctively walked away after giving the lady a big glare (the dog had come close to see the baby which made her paranoid) People need to do more frankly But it’s entirely down to how the owner has raised the dog. A close friend has a blue staffie and he is the sweetest, calmest and gentlest dog I’ve ever known. They’ve set boundaries with him so he knows where he can go in their house and when to approach their baby. But they’ve done the same with their child, so he also knows how to behave around the dog. It’s like when you hear stories of parents who allow their children to just touch random dogs, is it still the owner’s responsibility if their child doesn’t know how to behave around a dog and gets bitten? Whilst they probably should have their dog on a leash they know their dog a lot better than you do. Agree and I am not casting any aspersions on the dog owner, she was close by and “seemed” to be attentive so am sure nothing untoward would have happened. But yes, only the paranoid survive! |
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Post by MKAY315 on Nov 15, 2023 19:21:00 GMT
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Post by ServerKing on Nov 15, 2023 21:04:42 GMT
More chance of Spurs winning something this year  Poor old Rishi's not doing too well with laws at the moment, and this is, for want of a better word, dog whistle politics, seizing hold of what is a popular concern. None of the mandem who have these as status dogs would bother to apply for the certificate, and any who do will learn how to forge the document and pass it round to mates who also own such a breed. Local police may not appreciate more paperwork, unless the dogs of responsible owners have them microchipped, and legit ones can be easily identified, and the others rounded up... |
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Post by MKAY315 on Nov 15, 2023 21:57:28 GMT
More chance of Spurs winning something this year Poor old Rishi's not doing too well with laws at the moment, and this is, for want of a better word, dog whistle politics, seizing hold of what is a popular concern. None of the mandem who have these as status dogs would bother to apply for the certificate, and any who do will learn how to forge the document and pass it round to mates who also own such a breed. Local police may not appreciate more paperwork, unless the dogs of responsible owners have them microchipped, and legit ones can be easily identified, and the others rounded up... 😂😂😂😂 |
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Post by vjaska on Nov 15, 2023 22:36:19 GMT
Against simply because I don’t think the breed (and any other breed) should have been banned in the first place. I think owners themselves should be targeted rather than the animals |
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Post by capitalomnibus on Nov 16, 2023 0:03:44 GMT
Against simply because I don’t think the breed (and any other breed) should have been banned in the first place. I think owners themselves should be targeted rather than the animals Impossible to get most of the owners. I love dogs but sorry an outright ban is needed. The majority of people that get these dogs are for status and showing off. No reason why they cannot get any other type of dog. Even some of the gentlest of families with them have had problems where all of a sudden the dog just switches completely out of character and go wild. This is worst with young kids if they get jealous. |
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Post by vjaska on Nov 16, 2023 1:51:21 GMT
Against simply because I don’t think the breed (and any other breed) should have been banned in the first place. I think owners themselves should be targeted rather than the animals Impossible to get most of the owners. I love dogs but sorry an outright ban is needed. The majority of people that get these dogs are for status and showing off. No reason why they cannot get any other type of dog. Even some of the gentlest of families with them have had problems where all of a sudden the dog just switches completely out of character and go wild. This is worst with young kids if they get jealous. Experts in the field of dogs have said outright bans do not work - we already see this with other banned breeds where dog attacks from those breeds simply continue. Any dog can switch out of character for different reasons including some of the more gentle breeds. |
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Post by greenboy on May 21, 2024 5:15:35 GMT
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Post by capitalomnibus on May 30, 2024 11:30:56 GMT
It was said she did not want to give up the dogs and was against a ban, now the worst has come of it. |
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Post by vjaska on May 30, 2024 11:46:02 GMT
It was said she did not want to give up the dogs and was against a ban, now the worst has come of it. The whole demonisation of the breed does need to stop and that new law removed which is absolutely useless and doesn’t improve or prevent anything. If you look after any breed responsibly, it will not maul anyone to death which suggests to me there is more to this story |
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Post by SILENCED on May 30, 2024 11:47:58 GMT
It was said she did not want to give up the dogs and was against a ban, now the worst has come of it. The whole demonisation of the breed does need to stop and that new law removed which is absolutely useless and doesn’t improve or prevent anything. If you look after any breed responsibly, it will not maul anyone to death which suggests to me there is more to this story The fact is though many recent mauls are connected to this breed. It is a risk the we can do without. |
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Post by vjaska on May 30, 2024 11:55:23 GMT
The whole demonisation of the breed does need to stop and that new law removed which is absolutely useless and doesn’t improve or prevent anything. If you look after any breed responsibly, it will not maul anyone to death which suggests to me there is more to this story The fact is though many recent mauls are connected to this breed. It is a risk the we can do without. There have been spates of maulings in the past from other breeds like Pitbulls - branding them dangerous isn’t going to solve the issue. What I find interesting is the dogs owner is never branded as dangerous yet they are the responsible person. Dog experts have said any breed has the capability to be dangerous if owners don’t look after them responsibly. You say it’s a risk you can do without - the new law hasn’t changed anything so I suggest you lobby the government to do more if your worried |
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Post by SILENCED on May 30, 2024 11:58:25 GMT
The fact is though many recent mauls are connected to this breed. It is a risk the we can do without. There have been spates of maulings in the past from other breeds like Pitbulls - branding them dangerous isn’t going to solve the issue. What I find interesting is the dogs owner is never branded as dangerous yet they are the responsible person. Dog experts have said any breed has the capability to be dangerous if owners don’t look after them responsibly. You say it’s a risk you can do without - the new law hasn’t changed anything so I suggest you lobby the government to do more if your worried Personally I am not worried about it, but there does appear to be some correlation between this breed and attacks? To me that would suggest they are more dangerous than other breeds to have as a pet. If I had young kids, I would not be comfortable with someone down my road owning two or three of these dogs. |
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