Route 414

[wirewiper]

Jun 26, 2023 11:10:39 GMT matthieu1221 said:

A lot of changes could be facilitated if the network fully became an interchange one rather than the current odd hybrid with a dwindling amount of point to point connections and more and more journeys where you are expected to change buses.

A proper interchange network requires good interchange locations (HPC and Marble Arch ideally should be restructured into convenient places to change buses with short walks, the current trend of relocating bus stops further from intersections -- hello TCR and Piccadilly Circus -- also doesn't help) -- and if duplication of routes is reduces, a decent frequency is needed so changing buses doesn't add 12 minutes at most to your journey if you end up just missing the bus you want to switch to.

For instance, if a HPC interchange became more convenient, a 414 withdrawn could easily be mitigated by the 74 (same-stop interchange currently) AND 2, 6, 13, 23, 36, 137, 148 & 390 (currently a long trek or a *very* long trek). Basically anything heading up Park Lane. At the moment, because it is so inconvenient to change to anything else, someone changing from the 14 to the 74 might be put off from ever attempting it again if they just miss the connecting 74. Then again, it's debatable whether there actually is much demand in the first place given how the Marble Arch terminus of the 414 isn't very useful in the first place and likely has driven some customers away.

Excellent idea re: interchanges. The current southbound carriageway of Park Lane could be repurposed as a bus-only route with a cycle route alongside and improved walking facilities. This would allow linear bus interchanges at Marble Arch and also at Hyde Park Corner if part of the north side was also used. Coaches in service could also be allowed to use the bus-only road. 

People have commented on the paucity of routes now operating along Oxford Street, more thought needs to be given to north-south routes which intersect the Street particularly through Oxford Circus. 

[evergreenadam]

Jun 25, 2023 21:21:19 GMT northlondon83 said:

Jun 25, 2023 21:08:07 GMT ADH45258 said:

In response to previous comments, this is what I would suggest overall, as part of a wider restructure:


new route - from Clapham Junction, via Battersea Bridge, then the 19 to Tottenham Court Road, and the 73/390 to Kings Cross.

11 - extended from Fulham Broadway to Hammersmith.

14 - cut back to Piccadilly Circus.

19 - withdrawn between Battersea and Hyde Park Corner, instead rerouted to Victoria.

22 - diverted via Victoria (instead of Knightsbridge).

38 - withdrawn between Victoria and Tottenham Court Road. Rerouted to Homerton Hospital via the 242 (instead of Clapton Pond).

49 - withdrawn between Clapham Junction and Chelsea, instead rerouted to Battersea Power Station via the proposed 211.

67 - re-extended from Dalston back to Aldgate.

319 - cut back from Sloane Square, instead rerouted at Chelsea to South Kensington via the 49.

390 - diverted via Russell Square and the British Museum.

211 / 242 / 414 - withdrawn.

Any reason for the 319 change? The 345 already links Clapham Junction to South Kensington 

I think the idea is that the 319 would replace the 49’s routeing between Clapham Junction and South Kensington. The 345 takes a different route.

[cardinal]

The 430 is the route that’s also quite easy to remove if TfL wanted. But nobody seems to choose that route to drone on about.

[towertransit70]

Jul 6, 2023 10:48:25 GMT cardinal said:

The 430 is the route that’s also quite easy to remove if TfL wanted. But nobody seems to choose that route to drone on about.

Oh boy. I work at AF and U dont want to get rid of it. 430 is busy between Putney and Roehampton and acts like a supplement route for the 74 from West Bromp to Putney. Combining the routes together will be disastarous due to heavy traffic along the route. Putney is bad enough as it is.