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Post by LK65EBO on Jul 27, 2021 15:25:44 GMT
They have ,I remember the same period, and it is sad. They have more defending to do before they can win any new contracts as well. You never know, they have opportunities from around 2023 with the 120/222/237/E8 . But it I have to say TF is a better garage than AV in many ways. As much as I am a RATP fan, I have to hand it to Abellio TF. Their drivers are honestly some if the nicest around! (and a friend of mine enjoyed working there for 4 weeks on the 490, but that's a story for later) One of them the other day asked me, whilst waiting at traffic lights, why I was taking photos of their bus, not accusatory just genuinely curious. Yeah agree with you on the drivers bit. The ones on the H25 and H26 are some of the nicest I've come across.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2021 15:39:21 GMT
They have ,I remember the same period, and it is sad. They have more defending to do before they can win any new contracts as well. You never know, they have opportunities from around 2023 with the 120/222/237/E8 . But it I have to say TF is a better garage than AV in many ways. Rob, I agree. AV hasn’t been great for a long while. Vehicle appearance has been shoddy, allocations lazy and effectively it has been backfilled by transferring other routes in during the past few years. TF on the other hand present their vehicles well. The reliability of the LTs on the 267 has been excellent in comparison to when it operated from the other end of the shed. The 111 is a huge route for them to win. I hope AV isn’t backfilled again by moving something out of WK. TF is a bit like how London United were in the early years of private management, which is why I like them. And TF operates mainly ex LU routes 😂
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Post by vjaska on Jul 27, 2021 16:22:56 GMT
Looking at LVF, sadly the U7 is returning to single deckers - 3 has been used or out with 1 decker being used today and one into the early hours
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Post by Jack on Jul 27, 2021 17:10:57 GMT
8520 is back from London United and is on the U7 (not tracking). Its front fleet number is 852O (letter O not zero)
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Post by dlroper on Jul 27, 2021 19:03:54 GMT
Looking at LVF, sadly the U7 is returning to single deckers - 3 has been used or out with 1 decker being used today and one into the early hours Aye photographed it earlier and the SD's now forming half of the U3 roster. AB drivers always appear smart too .......................
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Post by BE37054 (quoll662) on Jul 27, 2021 19:19:44 GMT
Looking at LVF, sadly the U7 is returning to single deckers - 3 has been used or out with 1 decker being used today and one into the early hours Aye photographed it earlier and the SD's now forming half of the U3 roster. AB drivers always appear smart too ....................... AB iirc was a garage in the Seven Kings area. Why would an old garage about 40 miles away have an allocation on the U3?
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Post by WH241 on Jul 27, 2021 19:23:53 GMT
Aye photographed it earlier and the SD's now forming half of the U3 roster. AB drivers always appear smart too ....................... AB iirc was a garage in the Seven Kings area. Why would an old garage about 40 miles away have an allocation on the U3? Pretty sure dlroper was just abbreviating Abellio.
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Post by SILENCED on Jul 27, 2021 19:39:45 GMT
Aye photographed it earlier and the SD's now forming half of the U3 roster. AB drivers always appear smart too ....................... AB iirc was a garage in the Seven Kings area. Why would an old garage about 40 miles away have an allocation on the U3? No, that was AP I think ... sure AB is the lvf abbreviation for Abellio
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Post by Frenzie on Jul 27, 2021 19:40:30 GMT
AB iirc was a garage in the Seven Kings area. Why would an old garage about 40 miles away have an allocation on the U3? Pretty sure dlroper was just abbreviating Abellio. Wasn’t AB was the name of the temporary Southall Garage abellio opened? Could be confusing AB with GW?
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Post by BE37054 (quoll662) on Jul 27, 2021 19:44:06 GMT
AB iirc was a garage in the Seven Kings area. Why would an old garage about 40 miles away have an allocation on the U3? No, that was AP I think ... sure AB is the lvf abbreviation for Abellio Maybe AB was the late Norbiton garage.
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Post by SILENCED on Jul 27, 2021 19:46:15 GMT
No, that was AP I think ... sure AB is the lvf abbreviation for Abellio Maybe AB was the late Norbiton garage. No Norbiton was NB, just checked AB was Twickenham
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Post by snowman on Jul 27, 2021 20:05:57 GMT
No, that was AP I think ... sure AB is the lvf abbreviation for Abellio Maybe AB was the late Norbiton garage. AB was Twickenham (Cambridge Road) garage, near Richmond Bridge It closed about 50 years ago, apartments subsequently built there NB was Norbiton, the site is now a Wickes, although there is a planning application to convert to a Lidl
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Post by vjaska on Jul 27, 2021 21:09:39 GMT
Pretty sure dlroper was just abbreviating Abellio. Wasn’t AB was the name of the temporary Southall Garage abellio opened? Could be confusing AB with GW? I remember the name was A something, AB sounds perfectly plausible.
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Post by BE37054 (quoll662) on Jul 27, 2021 22:57:30 GMT
They have ,I remember the same period, and it is sad. They have more defending to do before they can win any new contracts as well. You never know, they have opportunities from around 2023 with the 120/222/237/E8 . But it I have to say TF is a better garage than AV in many ways. Rob, I agree. AV hasn’t been great for a long while. Vehicle appearance has been shoddy, allocations lazy and effectively it has been backfilled by transferring other routes in during the past few years. TF on the other hand present their vehicles well. The reliability of the LTs on the 267 has been excellent in comparison to when it operated from the other end of the shed. The 111 is a huge route for them to win. I hope AV isn’t backfilled again by moving something out of WK. I actually hope AV takes on the training fleet from NC, with 419 AV > FW (and 85 FW > JE) to make extra space.
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Post by vjaska on Jul 28, 2021 1:02:40 GMT
Rob, I agree. AV hasn’t been great for a long while. Vehicle appearance has been shoddy, allocations lazy and effectively it has been backfilled by transferring other routes in during the past few years. TF on the other hand present their vehicles well. The reliability of the LTs on the 267 has been excellent in comparison to when it operated from the other end of the shed. The 111 is a huge route for them to win. I hope AV isn’t backfilled again by moving something out of WK. I actually hope AV takes on the training fleet from NC, with 419 AV > FW to make extra space. Why is the 419 going to move back to FW when it was recently moved out to make room for other routes.
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