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Post by YX10FFN on Sept 29, 2021 1:43:15 GMT
Indeed it did but only a few LT’s moved with it, including some which carry notices saying Route 415 only (think LT681 is one such example Isn’t LT681 at Stamford Brook? LT682-686 were the ones that made the move so he must mean those ones
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Post by vjaska on Sept 29, 2021 3:35:45 GMT
Isn’t LT681 at Stamford Brook? LT682-686 were the ones that made the move so he must mean those ones Sorry Frenzie meant LT682 - thanks YX10FFN
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Oct 2, 2021 6:09:23 GMT
Funny the 414 discussion suddenly jumped from the Tower Transit and 414 consultation thread back to Abellio especially considering the changes will take place from the new contract starting in November!
The 414 is the new 94 and 148 on the forum! Still a relief from alternate posts on this thread being about route 123
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Post by YY13VKP on Oct 3, 2021 12:56:42 GMT
It looks as if the YX61s have gone off lease as none are out today... Indeed it seems like 8577-8582 are due to return off lease. I would have thought TF would have been in a position to replace the remaining 59 reg ex 407 E200’s with 8577-8582, but it seems as though the 59 reg are owned by Abellio rather than leased as there are still a number of them in service. 8516 and 8528, which were also part of the 290’s allocation were still in service yesterday.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2021 23:12:23 GMT
Given that the new Enviro 400 MMC buses for route 207 are 19 reg, I'm surprised that they're diesel and not hybrid.
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Post by SILENCED on Oct 4, 2021 23:31:49 GMT
Given that the new Enviro 400 MMC buses for route 207 are 19 reg, I'm surprised that they're diesel and not hybrid. They are what is classed as a Smart Hybrid
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Post by M1104 on Oct 4, 2021 23:44:58 GMT
Given that the new Enviro 400 MMC buses for route 207 are 19 reg, I'm surprised that they're diesel and not hybrid. The 270 have similar which are 20 reg. As mentioned they are Smart hybrids, which in car terminology is micro-hybrid.
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Post by YY13VKP on Oct 14, 2021 10:23:07 GMT
Is the 63 expected to receive its electrics in time for the contract start date next month? If not, I’m not sure what Abellio plan to do unless they temporarily lease the MHV’s from Go-Ahead, since it’s a non-standard type to them. Although should they lease the MHV’s, if they need maintenance then I suppose they can always go across the road from WL to Q
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Post by busoccultation on Oct 14, 2021 10:42:33 GMT
Is the 63 expected to receive its electrics in time for the contract start date next month? If not, I’m not sure what Abellio plan to do unless they temporarily lease the MHV’s from Go-Ahead, since it’s a non-standard type to them. Although should they lease the MHV’s, if they need maintenance then I suppose they can always go across the road from WL to Q They could send the 363 EH's and maybe some more EH's from Q or NX on loan to Abellio for the 63 for them to loan a more familiar type. The 363 would go fully MHV should Go-Ahead needs to send some of their buses to Abellio.
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Post by vjaska on Oct 14, 2021 11:40:10 GMT
Is the 63 expected to receive its electrics in time for the contract start date next month? If not, I’m not sure what Abellio plan to do unless they temporarily lease the MHV’s from Go-Ahead, since it’s a non-standard type to them. Although should they lease the MHV’s, if they need maintenance then I suppose they can always go across the road from WL to Q They could send the 363 EH's and maybe some more EH's from Q or NX on loan to Abellio for the 63 for them to loan a more familiar type. The 363 would go fully MHV should Go-Ahead needs to send some of their buses to Abellio. Or even just send the 363’s EH’s and some of the 37’s E’s leaving the MHV’s to cover both routes
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Post by Ts_As on Oct 14, 2021 20:48:43 GMT
They could send the 363 EH's and maybe some more EH's from Q or NX on loan to Abellio for the 63 for them to loan a more familiar type. The 363 would go fully MHV should Go-Ahead needs to send some of their buses to Abellio. Or even just send the 363’s EH’s and some of the 37’s E’s leaving the MHV’s to cover both routes I wouldn’t risk losing money but it makes sense to transfer all of 363’s EHs and some of Qs.
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Post by M1104 on Oct 15, 2021 9:39:58 GMT
Another possibility could be that some of the redundant E40Ds from the 156, 345, E9, etc may still be parked up as a backup plan to cover¹ the 63. If the case this would prevent/reduce possible loans from Go Ahead or elsewhere. Also take into account that the 414 goes to TT not long after the 63 arrives, which could mean that any such loans may be relatively short-lived.
¹ - eg. E40Ds to the 345/414 (which are still fully diesel bus contracts) pushing E40Hs to the 63
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Post by snowman on Oct 15, 2021 12:48:48 GMT
Another possibility could be that some of the redundant E40Ds from the 156, 345, E9, etc may still be parked up as a backup plan to cover¹ the 63. If the case this would prevent/reduce possible loans from Go Ahead or elsewhere. Also take into account that the 414 goes to TT not long after the 63 arrives, which could mean that any such loans may be relatively short-lived. ¹ - eg. E40Ds to the 345/414 (which are still fully diesel bus contracts) pushing E40Hs to the 63 Yes, just a few days really In practice if they use the 10 old E400s, suspend the refurbs for that period, scrape together couple of spares from every garage, can probably muster enough buses, even if it is a bit of a mongrel fleet. Although that may be more interesting for observers.
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Post by BE37054 (quoll662) on Oct 15, 2021 17:10:36 GMT
Another possibility could be that some of the redundant E40Ds from the 156, 345, E9, etc may still be parked up as a backup plan to cover¹ the 63. If the case this would prevent/reduce possible loans from Go Ahead or elsewhere. Also take into account that the 414 goes to TT not long after the 63 arrives, which could mean that any such loans may be relatively short-lived. ¹ - eg. E40Ds to the 345/414 (which are still fully diesel bus contracts) pushing E40Hs to the 63 Yes, just a few days really In practice if they use the 10 old E400s, suspend the refurbs for that period, scrape together couple of spares from every garage, can probably muster enough buses, even if it is a bit of a mongrel fleet. Although that may be more interesting for observers. Could we see some LT's from across the fleet move to the 285, with 20xx buses moving to the 63? The E400's may be best off (especially if they are from Abellio West) moving to the 207, with the 207's smart hybrids moving to the 63.
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Post by ADH45258 on Oct 16, 2021 22:38:03 GMT
As route P5 recently received a PVR increase of 1, I wonder if the an extra vehicle might be added to the 433's order to cover this (especially if the 433 were to get more Caetanos)?
Currently, route C10 needs 24 of the Caetanos for a PVR of 22. This only leaves 10 for the P5, which now has a PVR of 10, so no spare.
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