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Post by vjaska on Nov 10, 2021 22:24:44 GMT
I know I'm probably biased but I way prefer buses. Couldn't travel more than 20 mins in a car or taxi, I have this weird thing where I get sick in small vehicles, but in bigger vehicles I'm fine. So even if my local route went from 6bph to 0.5 bph I'd still not consider using a car or uber. Being selfish, I wish bench seats were reinstated so fewer people would use the bus and I'd have it all to myself! Just me! Another thing I've noticed is I tend to enjoy my local route more than other routes that I might travel on. Something just feels so refreshing about the passenger experience, perhaps a feeling of nostalgia. I don't use UBER a lot as such, for me I tend to drive instead and that is because I don't like the feeling of sitting in someone else's car. Bench seats a lot of them are used on provincial (specially school service) routes outside London, and are especially used on Step Entrance Dublin Bus Olympians. I do not like the idea of them at all but coming from an operators point of view you can squeeze more people on them and therefore can perhaps reduce the PVR a tad bit. However, this is probably offset by the fact there is no wheelchair bay therefore no space downstairs for passengers to stand if all seats have been taken. I wonder whether the idea of Urban 90s especially on shorter Darts/E200s/even some Solos (I rode one when I used the Mousehole a few years back with Urban 90 seats) was to perhaps fit more seats in instead of fitting thick seat moquettes in therefore increasing seating capacity. Urban 90 seats existing has nothing to do with space, it was just an extra choice of seating and arguably the worst choice out of the ones available but probably chosen because I suspect it was cheaper. Bench seats (that's the seats with the silver handrail running right across the top of the seat, not to be confused with seats you find at the rear of a bus) were actually pretty nice seats all being said and they lasted for many years as the go to seat, especially for LT buses. Bench seats are incredibly hard to find on a service bus nowadays as not as many low floor vehicles had them and the ones that did are unlikely still in everyday service. The exceptions to this would be some low floor deckers new to NIBS up to a particular Olympus which specified regular seats but they did have an Omnidekka and IIRC, 2 Olympus fully laid out with bench seats - the other exception would be new to Dublin Bus vehicles which continued with bench seats I believe until the completion of the B9TL Enviro 400's they have though the lovely Enviro 500's new to them didn't have bench seats.
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Post by TNA33379 on Nov 11, 2021 13:54:46 GMT
A first for TfL maybe; but even down here in Devon, where we park the buses in the cowshed next to the mangelwurzels, we've had them for a few years! Brighton & Hove buses have had them for 10-15 years....... but TfL have only just caught onto the idea😂 The first bus i can remember having LED's is 19000, saw a picture of it 86 near new? I was born in 2004 so don't remember it with LED's but from Photo's they look similar to many LED's nowadays. I believe 19000 was Mobite.
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Post by southlondonbus on Nov 12, 2021 8:05:39 GMT
Sorry if iv missed something but with the 63 coming tomorrow what's going to be used on it?
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Post by busoccultation on Nov 12, 2021 8:13:40 GMT
Sorry if iv missed something but with the 63 coming tomorrow what's going to be used on it? Mostly it will be the 2534-2551 batch from the 344 which are being used on the 156 & 414 today with a few already transferred to WL a few days ago. The rest of the 63 allocation would likely be the 2014 E400 hybrids from QB.
Plenty of allocation changes at QB today with the 156 using few MMC's from usually 100% old body E400H since September, 344 only using old body E400H's, 345 went from mix of diesel & hybrids to only using the diesel E400's and 414 is mainly using the MMC's from the 344 for the day.
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Post by YX10FFN on Nov 12, 2021 8:17:18 GMT
Sorry if iv missed something but with the 63 coming tomorrow what's going to be used on it? Mostly it will be the 2534-2551 batch from the 344 which are being used on the 156 & 414 today with a few already transferred to WL a few days ago. The rest of the 63 allocation would likely be the 2014 E400 hybrids from QB.
Plenty of allocation changes at QB today with the 156 using few MMC's from usually 100% old body E400H since September, 344 only using old body E400H's, 345 went from mix of diesel & hybrids to only using the diesel E400's and 414 is mainly using the MMC's from the 344 for the day.
I was beginning to think that the ex E1 batch were the ones headed for the 63 to complete the allocation as they have mostly spent time on the 414 recently (immediate transfer after the loss) but todays allocations have everything completely up in the air- who knows which minibatch will end up on the 63 tomorrow alongside the MMCs.
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Post by M1104 on Nov 12, 2021 11:01:25 GMT
Sorry if iv missed something but with the 63 coming tomorrow what's going to be used on it? Mostly it will be the 2534-2551 batch from the 344 which are being used on the 156 & 414 today with a few already transferred to WL a few days ago. The rest of the 63 allocation would likely be the 2014 E400 hybrids from QB.
Would be interesting if the euro6 built mk1s went to the 45/196 to release some MMCs to the 63.
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Post by mateusz180 on Nov 12, 2021 15:51:47 GMT
Route 3/N3 moves to QB as well
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Post by TB123 on Nov 12, 2021 19:31:41 GMT
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Post by YX10FFN on Nov 12, 2021 23:52:54 GMT
9521 appears to be the bus that will form the final 414, but its running 20 minutes late and 9526 has taken off ahead of it. Just some QB shenanigans for this evenings entertainment.
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Post by YX10FFN on Nov 13, 2021 0:10:40 GMT
2534 and 2544 are out working the first Abellio N63s!
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Post by YY13VKP on Nov 13, 2021 1:24:58 GMT
9521 appears to be the bus that will form the final 414, but its running 20 minutes late and 9526 has taken off ahead of it. Just some QB shenanigans for this evenings entertainment. Appropriate that one of the 59 reg Enviro400's worked the last 414 under Abellio, being the mainstay of the route since 2009. It has just finished its journey at Putney Bridge.
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Post by YX10FFN on Nov 13, 2021 1:28:11 GMT
9521 appears to be the bus that will form the final 414, but its running 20 minutes late and 9526 has taken off ahead of it. Just some QB shenanigans for this evenings entertainment. Appropriate that one of the 59 reg Enviro400's worked the last 414 under Abellio, being the mainstay of the route since 2009. It has just finished its journey at Putney Bridge. I appreciate their perseverance in getting the delayed bus to Maida Hill and still allowing it to be the final 414, even if it was 15 minutes late
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Post by vjaska on Nov 13, 2021 2:00:36 GMT
2534 and 2544 are out working the first Abellio N63s! Along with 2457 & 2458 which tell us the remainder of the allocation will probably be transferred in 14 and/or 64 reg examples
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Post by YX10FFN on Nov 13, 2021 2:05:00 GMT
2534 and 2544 are out working the first Abellio N63s! Along with 2457 & 2458 which tell us the remainder of the allocation will probably be transferred in 14 and/or 64 reg examples 2452-2461 2534-2551 = 28 buses for a PVR of 26.
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Post by orangejamieboss on Nov 13, 2021 6:49:50 GMT
Seems to be issues with tracking as of now there hasn't been an Abellio 63 shown.
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