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Post by intro on May 28, 2022 13:06:22 GMT
Why someone is interested or has a need to know what other think of bus types amazes me. The fact the 63 never had buses with 3 doors and two staircases suggests most of these are from professional complainers that would probably complain if buses had adverts saying the sky was blue. Not been on a 63, so can't say how seat sizes affect vision to the iBus displays, but even if I had, obstructions to view are not normally an issue for me. Likewise can't comment on the handrails, but from pictures think it is a positive. One positive over past few years for me is the glazed staircase. Makes interiors brighter, and any extra external visibility that may deter anti-social behaviour is a plus in my eyes, so should only be encouraged, rather than letting an operator gain a few extra tenners in advertising revenue. Agree, whilst I haven’t got around to riding one yet, all the new or different things introduced on them should be a positive such as the high back seats (which are no different to buses outside of London so the complaints are pretty invalid) & removal of handrails given the seats have grips to hold onto. Like you, the only gripe is lack of glass on the staircase - think that should be specced back in again Having been on a few Abellio High Spec e400ev Cities, I have actually found the headrests to be quite low down (bearing in mind that I am not the tallest of people), and there is no obstruction to the view of the information screens, and the complaints about the stairwell are a bit silly, as most hybrids don’t have glass stairwells and people have been coping very well on those in recent times. My only complaint is that on the seats adjacent to the drivers cab there is way too little legroom, and I struggle to fit my size 10 shoes in the area between the front of the seat and the glass.
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Post by SILENCED on May 28, 2022 13:30:51 GMT
Agree, whilst I haven’t got around to riding one yet, all the new or different things introduced on them should be a positive such as the high back seats (which are no different to buses outside of London so the complaints are pretty invalid) & removal of handrails given the seats have grips to hold onto. Like you, the only gripe is lack of glass on the staircase - think that should be specced back in again Having been on a few Abellio High Spec e400ev Cities, I have actually found the headrests to be quite low down (bearing in mind that I am not the tallest of people), and there is no obstruction to the view of the information screens, and the complaints about the stairwell are a bit silly, as all of the other BYDs don’t have glass stairwells and people have been coping very well on those for the past three years. My only complaint is that on the seats adjacent to the drivers cab there is way too little legroom, and I struggle to fit my size 10 shoes in the area between the front of the seat and the glass. Even though not been on the 63, sat on that type of seats to know it was the minimum standard they could go to to be classed as an upgrade. In my eyes, they are not big enough compared to some provincial operations. Think those types of seats are pretty standard on big group orders these days. Dont most BYDs have the glass staircass? HT's are mixed, but thought all others had it prior to the 63 batch.
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Post by intro on May 28, 2022 14:23:10 GMT
Having been on a few Abellio High Spec e400ev Cities, I have actually found the headrests to be quite low down (bearing in mind that I am not the tallest of people), and there is no obstruction to the view of the information screens, and the complaints about the stairwell are a bit silly, as all of the other BYDs don’t have glass stairwells and people have been coping very well on those for the past three years. My only complaint is that on the seats adjacent to the drivers cab there is way too little legroom, and I struggle to fit my size 10 shoes in the area between the front of the seat and the glass. Even though not been on the 63, sat on that type of seats to know it was the minimum standard they could go to to be classed as an upgrade. In my eyes, they are not big enough compared to some provincial operations. Think those types of seats are pretty standard on big group orders these days. Dont most BYDs have the glass staircass? HT's are mixed, but thought Al, other had it prior to the 63 batch. Nevermind, i forgot that the others had glass staircases, but still, there are many hybrids that don't have glass staircases and have no complaints.
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Post by enviroPB on May 28, 2022 19:00:56 GMT
LT174 has been completely destroyed by a fire somewhere. That’s the first LT to be written off. flic.kr/p/2nnz76b1,000 NRMs on the road, 1,000 NRMs You take one down, Fire profound 999 LTs on the road! Jokes aside, that's a pretty amazing stat that no other LTs have been written off in the 8 or so years they've been in service.
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Post by greg on May 28, 2022 21:20:32 GMT
You sure those events are linked? That bus has not been recorded in service since June 2020. From the previous photo looks like it caught alight where the photo was taken .... the van next to it being the cause??? Judging from the location of other photographs by the photographer, it will be somewhere in Kent, probably either Ashford or Maidstone way. Youre correct I just went along with my assumptions seeing as the area and the bus and the news, deleted the post now as it would have been false information. I wonder why it has been VOR for so long, I feel like I have seen it on the 27 in the last 6 months though??
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Post by snowman on May 29, 2022 6:21:50 GMT
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Post by mrhaveaniceday on May 30, 2022 6:00:14 GMT
It appears that the first of the U5’s new electrics is in service today - 3435 (LG22APY) seemingly taking the honours.
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Post by JUNIOR26 on May 30, 2022 6:30:14 GMT
It appears that the first of the U5’s new electrics is in service today - 3435 (LG22APY) seemingly taking the honours. 3432 is also in service too.
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Post by M1104 on May 30, 2022 10:28:47 GMT
It appears that the first of the U5’s new electrics is in service today - 3435 (LG22APY) seemingly taking the honours. Will be interesting to see what's planned for the MMCs, unless returned off lease if the case.
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Post by southlondonbus on May 30, 2022 12:07:27 GMT
It appears that the first of the U5’s new electrics is in service today - 3435 (LG22APY) seemingly taking the honours. Will be interesting to see what's planned for the MMCs, unless returned off lease if the case. With the possibility of more spare from the 45 I could see the 345 taking them all.
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Post by ADH45258 on May 30, 2022 12:14:31 GMT
Will be interesting to see what's planned for the MMCs, unless returned off lease if the case. With the possibility of more spare from the 45 I could see the 345 taking them all. The 345 should now be mostly allocated 14reg E40Hs from the C3/E1. If anything gets replaced by the U5's MMCs, I expect it would be some of the 61reg E40Hs, especially as a small number are still unrefurbished. Could possibly simplify some allocations - move some to the 344 to make it fully MMC. Then others to the 207, displacing the Smart Hybrids to the 278. I think it was also suggested at one point there could be a DD conversion involved.
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Post by M1104 on May 30, 2022 12:31:27 GMT
With the possibility of more spare from the 45 I could see the 345 taking them all. The 345 should now be mostly allocated 14reg E40Hs from the C3/E1. If anything gets replaced by the U5's MMCs, I expect it would be some of the 61reg E40Hs, especially as a small number are still unrefurbished. Could possibly simplify some allocations - move some to the 344 to make it fully MMC. Then others to the 207, displacing the Smart Hybrids to the 278. I think it was also suggested at one point there could be a DD conversion involved. I believe the 344's 'more or less' fully MMC on paper after its last pvr reduction, releasing mk1 variants.
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Post by M1104 on May 30, 2022 12:35:41 GMT
Will be interesting to see what's planned for the MMCs, unless returned off lease if the case. With the possibility of more spare from the 45 I could see the 345 taking them all. The 345 is certainly plausible considering it's pending award
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Post by TB123 on May 30, 2022 12:49:53 GMT
With the possibility of more spare from the 45 I could see the 345 taking them all. The 345 should now be mostly allocated 14reg E40Hs from the C3/E1. If anything gets replaced by the U5's MMCs, I expect it would be some of the 61reg E40Hs, especially as a small number are still unrefurbished. Could possibly simplify some allocations - move some to the 344 to make it fully MMC. Then others to the 207, displacing the Smart Hybrids to the 278. I think it was also suggested at one point there could be a DD conversion involved. That sounds very complex for a supposed mission to simplify routes. The 61 plates are allocated to the 344 and 407 and are fully compliant with the contracts, better to send the U5 buses off lease and save on the leasing charges, unless they win a route on tender soon.
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Post by sleckdeck on May 31, 2022 0:03:50 GMT
With the possibility of more spare from the 45 I could see the 345 taking them all. The 345 should now be mostly allocated 14reg E40Hs from the C3/E1. If anything gets replaced by the U5's MMCs, I expect it would be some of the 61reg E40Hs, especially as a small number are still unrefurbished. Could possibly simplify some allocations - move some to the 344 to make it fully MMC. Then others to the 207, displacing the Smart Hybrids to the 278. I think it was also suggested at one point there could be a DD conversion involved. I really hope the 490 is being considered by TFL, whilst there is a problem it can be swapped with another route to Manor Circus - say the R70 or the 371. A partial conversion should be enough for the route, unless the H22 is reinstated to run back to Richmond then the 490 only needs the support from the H22.
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