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Post by Ts_As on Jun 27, 2020 19:18:11 GMT
Ah yes I knew it all the long that GAL will purchase them for 469 and B12, hopefully GAL can spend money on a proper refurbishment because I would be disappointed to see grey and red There is no requirement to do a "proper refurbishment" - all that is required is to a simple refurbishment usually a clean up and a change of moquette although some operators change the floor, lighting or seats. Prepare yourself to be disappointed because I don't expect Go-Ahead to be removing anything other than moquette.
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Post by ADH45258 on Jun 27, 2020 23:10:09 GMT
Is the plan to withdraw the remainder of the 2006-7 Enviro400s 9401-9427 once the remaining smart hybrids arrive, as they are now concentrated on 270 and 285 ? I wouldn't be surprised if they stuck around a little bit longer, at least until the C3 goes in October..which then runs into the query as to where those E40Hs will be allocated next. I think the C3's E40Hs could be used for the E9 if retained
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Jun 28, 2020 7:47:50 GMT
AE is definitely much closer to the 78 than BN or N are. Though I think the 78 might be won by Abellio or Go Ahead on the next contract. I also wonder if AE could potentially win additional routes around Shoreditch or Liverpool Street? The 344 is up for tender quite soon. I thought the 35 would have provided a good opportunity for AE to get another route before it got a two year extension. Before the rerouting you would have thought the 40 would have been a good chance for AE given it went to Aldgate like the 78 but now its been rerouted to Clerkenwell its not as obvious an AE route but there's a fairly straight dead run down Clerkenwell Road. In LBL days Ash Grove had an allocation on route 35, retained even after it was withdrawn between Shoreditch and Hackney.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Jun 28, 2020 8:00:18 GMT
And 8140 is just about to begin it's trip working the final K1 journey under Abellio And that brings the curtain down on 7 years of Abellio operation on the K1, with 8140 finishing at New Malden just now. The K1 won't be the same under RATP, I've enjoyed many journeys on it under Abellio especially while I was at college. Whenever I felt lazy and caught the bus to the station, I always used the K1. I do hope that 8118-8127 find a new home (I sort of hope they'll end up on the 315 or 463). If they do end up returning to Abellio, a small number of them will be needed to cover refurbs at BC Farewell route K1 under Abellio: June 29th 2013-June 27th 2020
On a side note, it appears 2022 went out on the 407 yesterday for two hours! I'm not even sure whether there will be any Abellio routes serving Surbiton anymore.
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Post by rif153 on Jun 28, 2020 11:08:03 GMT
And that brings the curtain down on 7 years of Abellio operation on the K1, with 8140 finishing at New Malden just now. The K1 won't be the same under RATP, I've enjoyed many journeys on it under Abellio especially while I was at college. Whenever I felt lazy and caught the bus to the station, I always used the K1. I do hope that 8118-8127 find a new home (I sort of hope they'll end up on the 315 or 463). If they do end up returning to Abellio, a small number of them will be needed to cover refurbs at BC Farewell route K1 under Abellio: June 29th 2013-June 27th 2020
On a side note, it appears 2022 went out on the 407 yesterday for two hours! I'm not even sure whether there will be any Abellio routes serving Surbiton anymore. Seems like just yesterday that Abellio lost the K3 to RATP and now here we are with Abellio down to no routes in Surbiton. They will have some opportunities to change that with forthcoming tenders though with the possibility of winning the 281.
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Post by george on Jun 28, 2020 11:09:07 GMT
I'm not even sure whether there will be any Abellio routes serving Surbiton anymore. Seems like just yesterday that Abellio lost the K3 to RATP and now here we are with Abellio down to no routes in Surbiton. They will have some opportunities to change that with forthcoming tenders though with the possibility of winning the 281. Don't forget the 71 as well. I wouldn't mind seeing the 71 going to Abellio.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Jun 28, 2020 14:37:46 GMT
I'm not even sure whether there will be any Abellio routes serving Surbiton anymore. Seems like just yesterday that Abellio lost the K3 to RATP and now here we are with Abellio down to no routes in Surbiton. They will have some opportunities to change that with forthcoming tenders though with the possibility of winning the 281. It is also a shock to see Abellio's disappearance from Surbiton as I'm sure they used to have country routes via Surbiton too. I just wonder what Tom, Barbara, Jerry and Margo would make of this.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2020 15:10:45 GMT
Seems like just yesterday that Abellio lost the K3 to RATP and now here we are with Abellio down to no routes in Surbiton. They will have some opportunities to change that with forthcoming tenders though with the possibility of winning the 281. It is also a shock to see Abellio's disappearance from Surbiton as I'm sure they used to have country routes via Surbiton too. I just wonder what Tom, Barbara, Jerry and Margo would make of this. Abellio used to have a couple of Surrey routes in Surbs as we used to call it at uni. I’m sure Margo would have very upset at the thought.
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Post by thelondonthing on Jun 28, 2020 19:37:29 GMT
The bus stand at East Sheen, Queen's Road (formerly the 'Black Horse' stand) is overflowing with Abellio LTs today. The stand is routinely used by only a handful of school journeys, and for short turns on routes 33, 337 and 493 - but it's also pressed into service for railway replacement services when the South Western line through Richmond is closed for engineering works, which is the reason for today's influx of LTs. There were four on stand (well, technically two on stand, and two on the main road) when I took that picture on a walk this evening. When I passed the same spot a few minutes later, they'd been joined by an Enviro 400 as well. As you can see, it's a very small stand, and isn't equipped to handle such a large volume of buses! (One other observation: there didn't appear to be much effort by drivers to observe social distancing guidelines; both times that I passed, I saw drivers chatting right next to each other without face masks.)
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Post by george on Jun 28, 2020 19:40:11 GMT
The bus stand at East Sheen, Queen's Road (formerly the 'Black Horse' stand) is overflowing with Abellio LTs today. The stand is routinely used by only a handful of school journeys, and for short turns on routes 33, 337 and 493 - but it's also pressed into service for railway replacement services when the South Western line through Richmond is closed for engineering works, which is the reason for today's influx of LTs. There were four on stand (well, technically two on stand, and two on the main road) when I took that picture on a walk this evening. When I passed the same spot a few minutes later, they'd been joined by an Enviro 400 as well. As you can see, it's a very small stand, and isn't equipped to handle such a large volume of buses! (One other observation: there didn't appear to be much effort by drivers to observe social distancing guidelines; both times that I passed, I saw drivers chatting right next to each other without face masks.) Was even more crowded earlier as 337 was curtailed there. Just a quick correction those buses are for the District line rather than SWR.
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Post by thelondonthing on Jun 28, 2020 19:44:30 GMT
Was even more crowded earlier as 337 was curtailed there. Just a quick correction those buses are for the District line rather than SWR. Ah, my mistake - thanks for the correction.
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Post by george on Jun 28, 2020 20:03:12 GMT
Was even more crowded earlier as 337 was curtailed there. Just a quick correction those buses are for the District line rather than SWR. Ah, my mistake - thanks for the correction. No problem. Types of buses on SWR replacement are a lot more interesting in my opinion. Great chance to have a another trip on ex London buses.
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Post by thelondonthing on Jun 28, 2020 20:10:08 GMT
Ah, my mistake - thanks for the correction. No problem. Types of buses on SWR replacement are a lot more interesting in my opinion. Great chance to have a another trip on ex London buses. Now you mention it, I should have known they were Underground replacements - as you suggest, SWR replacements tend to be a much more mixed bag of coaches, and new, old, and utterly worn-out buses from a wide variety of operators. I've been on some truly ropey old vehicles on SWT/SWR replacement services - and rarely anything as fancy as an LT!
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Post by 6HP502C on Jun 28, 2020 23:53:32 GMT
The bus stand at East Sheen, Queen's Road (formerly the 'Black Horse' stand) is overflowing with Abellio LTs today. The stand is routinely used by only a handful of school journeys, and for short turns on routes 33, 337 and 493 - but it's also pressed into service for railway replacement services when the South Western line through Richmond is closed for engineering works, which is the reason for today's influx of LTs. There were four on stand (well, technically two on stand, and two on the main road) when I took that picture on a walk this evening. When I passed the same spot a few minutes later, they'd been joined by an Enviro 400 as well. As you can see, it's a very small stand, and isn't equipped to handle such a large volume of buses! (One other observation: there didn't appear to be much effort by drivers to observe social distancing guidelines; both times that I passed, I saw drivers chatting right next to each other without face masks.) That is a pretty normal scene - sometimes locals shout about it. I wasn't working over the weekend but often when taking over a bus I drive it up the road and turn around somewhere else. Bus garages are among the most dangerous places I have been for people not observing social distancing, kind of making all the noise about cleaning and sealing up the cabs an exercise in futility.
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Post by 6HP502C on Jul 3, 2020 0:03:19 GMT
I had 9406, 9413 and 9421 last week. 9406 is Abellio's prized tacho bus. Still got the TopoDyn acceleration rate restrictions on it but like some of the batch new to the 35 I'm unsure what the speed limiter is set to, if it has one! The fan is overridden to go full guns constantly. 9413 is part of the training fleet. It never regained the TopoDyn and accelerates how ADL intended it to. However it is limited to about 36mph. Slightly amused that the LEDs have numerous coachleasing.com West Midlands destinations programmed in! 9421 still has the standard TopoDyn and 40mph limiter programmed in. BC have clearly spent money on it since transferred in for the 270. The air leak it has causing it to howl when accelerating has been sorted and the engine feels stronger. I'm also told they have done good things for the legendary 9401. To be honest even with all the performance restrictions, getting to drive these is a bit of a treat nowadays, makes a nice change from the staple of LTs and MMCs!
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