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Post by southlondonbus on May 4, 2024 21:06:43 GMT
That is what I think biggest shame is is that bar Ken Livingstone, this race is always a 2 horse one with Little hope for anyone else. Unless the supplementary vote system comes back, I don't think it'll happen under FPTP. Ironically an independent candidate would probably have more chance then a Lib Dem, Green, Reform etc.
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Post by twobellstogo on May 4, 2024 21:07:07 GMT
Think it is about time Outer London boroughs seek devolution from Inner London. Inner London can have pay per mile, Outer London does not want it. Count Binface would have been more preferable than Count Khanage! Silly comment🥱 - Please remain SILENCED. I totally disagree with his comments, like you, but he has every right to air them. It’s like how I felt after the EU referendum - bitterly disappointed, and SILENCED is feeling the same now, no doubt. I can live with that - we’re not all going to be happy with the result.
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Post by southlondonbus on May 4, 2024 21:08:12 GMT
Susan Hall could only have a hope of winning if Labour didn’t field a candidate full stop - no amount of turnout was getting her in given her whole campaign was just Outer London based - she didn’t even bother to try and make inroads in Inner London where there are plenty of people tired of him. Thank goodness she flopped as expected anyway, I’m not in the business of having far right candidates running London and it was excellent to see Count Binface beat the racists are Britain First I got only a single leaflet from her which really shows her dedication to inner London. Lab, Lib and Greens bothered with the first two even sending with door knockers. You wouldn't think that she was from the party governing the country based on this. I Still think Paul Scully would have cut through a bit better having been minister for London and being a bit younger.
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Post by SILENCED on May 4, 2024 21:17:25 GMT
Think it is about time Outer London boroughs seek devolution from Inner London. Inner London can have pay per mile, Outer London does not want it. Count Binface would have been more preferable than Count Khanage! Silly comment🥱 - Please remain SILENCED. Why, he has been rejected by most of the Outer London Boroughs. Seems Inner and Outer London want and need different things .... when our Mayor seems incapable of running down more than one track. What works in Inner London does not automatically work in Outer London. Let Inner London be held back by Khan. Free Outer London from tyranny!
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Post by londonbuses2018 on May 4, 2024 21:20:34 GMT
How bad would Public Ownership of buses be? Also you wants a London Bus Company or leave it under TFL.
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Post by SILENCED on May 4, 2024 21:24:55 GMT
How bad would Public Ownership of buses be? Also you wants a London Bus Company or leave it under TFL. Impossible to say, but just look at how ineffective other nationalised departments work. You need bus people running London's buses, not civil servants that transfer departments every 3 or 4 years
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Post by MKAY315 on May 4, 2024 21:25:25 GMT
This is going to sound very controversial but I said what I said and I'm standing on this. If you like, after reading what I wrote you can go and argue with your forefathers.
I did say Susan Hall would NOT be elected as Mayor of London. Like come on who was actually thinking she stood a chance to oust Khan out. *sighs* perhaps if she actually came out with a strong set of plans then maybe she would have stood a chance. Anyways as much as I've questioned Khan's tenure let's just hope he does better this term.
The funniest thing was people thinking by voting Hall would reverse ULEZ. That had me laughing. What a joke.
One last thing. Where's this humble pie that I'm supposed to be eating if Hall came into power. More fool you. Now go and receive that egg in your face and you can bank on THAT.
JOB DONE!!!
**Drops Mic* 🎤
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on May 4, 2024 21:25:36 GMT
Susan Hall could only have a hope of winning if Labour didn’t field a candidate full stop - no amount of turnout was getting her in given her whole campaign was just Outer London based - she didn’t even bother to try and make inroads in Inner London where there are plenty of people tired of him. Thank goodness she flopped as expected anyway, I’m not in the business of having far right candidates running London and it was excellent to see Count Binface beat the racists are Britain First Think it is about time Outer London boroughs seek devolution from Inner London. Inner London can have pay per mile, Outer London does not want it. Count Binface would have been more preferable than Count Khanage! They are all London, just because they didn't get the result they wanted doesn't mean that they should break away. It's just effectively throwing your toys out of the pram. Also on pay per mile, who has actually said that Sadiq will introduce it?
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Post by SILENCED on May 4, 2024 21:29:36 GMT
Think it is about time Outer London boroughs seek devolution from Inner London. Inner London can have pay per mile, Outer London does not want it. Count Binface would have been more preferable than Count Khanage! They are all London, just because they didn't get the result they wanted doesn't mean that they should break away. It's just effectively throwing your toys out of the pram. Also on pay per mile, who has actually said that Sadiq will introduce it? Nothing definite, but he has talked about it. Those that voted Sadiq, will not be able to complain ... they are complicit in this plan. It will be on the table within 12 months. Outer London is far by far bigger than any other devolved areas .... would even outsize Inner London. If some of these smaller areas are devolved ... why not outer London? Why should we be held back by Inner London, who seem happy with incompetence! If Labour had put up a capable candidate, they would have won by an unbelievable margin ... Sadiq held them back.
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Post by WH241 on May 4, 2024 21:32:04 GMT
Some true colours are certainly showing in this thread.
Politics and the forum never mix well.
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Post by twobellstogo on May 4, 2024 21:36:17 GMT
How bad would Public Ownership of buses be? Also you wants a London Bus Company or leave it under TFL. I suspect we won’t get as far as one TfL owned bus company in the next four years, but time will tell. I get dewy eyed with nostalgia over 70s/80s London Transport/London Buses, the PTEs and the NBC, but I’m not convinced a copy of any of those is appropriate for 2024. The NBC in particular wasn’t really a super duper go-ahead attractive proposition with its undercoat liveries (the poppy red was particularly unattractive), and in latter NBC days, the MAP (Market Analysis Project) meaning cuts left, right and centre. I’m all for more public control, but it has to be planned carefully by people who know more about such things than I do.
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Post by southlondonbus on May 4, 2024 21:38:42 GMT
This is going to sound very controversial but I said what I said and I'm standing on this. If you like, after reading what I wrote you can go and argue with your forefathers. I did say Susan Hall would NOT be elected as Mayor of London. Like come on who was actually thinking she stood a chance to oust Khan out. *sighs* perhaps if she actually came out with a strong set of plans then maybe she would have stood a chance. Anyways as much as I've questioned Khan's tenure let's just hope he does better this term. The funniest thing was people thinking by voting Hall would reverse ULEZ. That had me laughing. What a joke. One last thing. Where's this humble pie that I'm supposed to be eating if Hall came into power. More fool you. Now go and receive that egg in your face and you can bank on THAT. JOB DONE!!! **Drops Mic* 🎤 The main issue with an anti ULEZ policy was that it's effectively effecting less and less people and therefore was unlikely to sustain any voter base.
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Post by joefrombow on May 4, 2024 21:39:25 GMT
They are all London, just because they didn't get the result they wanted doesn't mean that they should break away. It's just effectively throwing your toys out of the pram. Also on pay per mile, who has actually said that Sadiq will introduce it? Nothing definite, but he has talked about it. Those that voted Sadiq, will not be able to complain ... they are complicit in this plan. It will be on the table within 12 months. Outer London is far by far bigger than any other devolved areas .... would even outsize Inner London. If some of these smaller areas are devolved ... why not outer London? Why should we be held back by Inner London, who seem happy with incompetence! If Labour had put up a capable candidate, they would have won by an unbelievable margin ... Sadiq held them back. A wins a win , Tories clearly never put up a credible candidate she left her manifesto until the very last week , was using a "note" on her twitter as a manifesto, in fact I think they put her up purposely knowing full well she wouldn't stand a chance they should of put up a better candidate, I'm no fan of Khan but it is what it is hopefully adopts some of the ideas from the other candidates on crime etc and fulfills his transport pledges , Superloop and trying to get more Rail services under tfl control don't see the point in buses coming in house .
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Post by MKAY315 on May 4, 2024 21:41:29 GMT
This is going to sound very controversial but I said what I said and I'm standing on this. If you like, after reading what I wrote you can go and argue with your forefathers. I did say Susan Hall would NOT be elected as Mayor of London. Like come on who was actually thinking she stood a chance to oust Khan out. *sighs* perhaps if she actually came out with a strong set of plans then maybe she would have stood a chance. Anyways as much as I've questioned Khan's tenure let's just hope he does better this term. The funniest thing was people thinking by voting Hall would reverse ULEZ. That had me laughing. What a joke. One last thing. Where's this humble pie that I'm supposed to be eating if Hall came into power. More fool you. Now go and receive that egg in your face and you can bank on THAT. JOB DONE!!! **Drops Mic* 🎤 The main issue with an anti ULEZ policy was that it's effectively effecting less and less people and therefore was unlikely to sustain any voter base. And that somehow went over many people's heads by thinking if they voted for Hall suddenly it would be reversed. *sighs* the writing was on the wall.
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Post by joefrombow on May 4, 2024 21:41:37 GMT
I think Susan Hall could have won if the turnout was around 80-90%, its obvious who the 40% that did turnout to vote were, they are the diehard Khan fans, no matter how bad he runs the capital, they will still vote for him. Susan Hall could only have a hope of winning if Labour didn’t field a candidate full stop - no amount of turnout was getting her in given her whole campaign was just Outer London based - she didn’t even bother to try and make inroads in Inner London where there are plenty of people tired of him. Thank goodness she flopped as expected anyway, I’m not in the business of having far right candidates running London and it was excellent to see Count Binface beat the racists are Britain First Exactly this , every single word rings true
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