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Post by londonbusbro on Apr 22, 2024 16:52:10 GMT
63/363 could be merged but im guessing there split due to traffic reason
ill edit this when i can think of some more
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Post by evergreenadam on Apr 22, 2024 17:01:00 GMT
63/363 could be merged but im guessing there split due to traffic reason ill edit this when i can think of some more They shouldn’t be merged. |
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Post by southlondonbus on Apr 22, 2024 17:22:03 GMT
63/363 could be merged but im guessing there split due to traffic reason ill edit this when i can think of some more The freqs don't match. That was one of the reasons for the original split. |
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Post by greenboy on Apr 22, 2024 17:31:47 GMT
63/363 could be merged but im guessing there split due to traffic reason ill edit this when i can think of some more When the 63 went to Crystal Palace alternate buses terminated at Honor Oak. |
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Post by bk10mfe on Apr 22, 2024 17:48:42 GMT
Merging the 78 & 363 might not be a bad shout & would have certainly been a better idea than extending the 388 to Peckham to replace the 78. The 381 could be extended to Nunhead to cover that section of the 78.
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Post by southlondonbus on Apr 22, 2024 18:00:14 GMT
Merging the 78 & 363 might not be a bad shout & would have certainly been a better idea than extending the 388 to Peckham to replace the 78. The 381 could be extended to Nunhead to cover that section of the 78. Thou I did quite like the Peckham to London Bridge like via Tooley Street as opposed to the very indirect 381 which was proposed for the 388. |
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Post by wirewiper on Apr 22, 2024 18:08:52 GMT
63/363 could be merged but im guessing there split due to traffic reason ill edit this when i can think of some more Yes - to have a higher frequency over the common section. Originally the 63 ran from Kings Cross to Honor Oak, in 1954 some journeys were extended to Crystal Palace as a partial replacement for the Crystal Palace High Level rail line but much of the service continued to terminate at Honor Oak. The present pattern of service came about in 2003, as part of the plan to increase overall bus capacity in Inner and Central London ahead of the introduction of Congestion Charging. The 63 was curtailed to Honor Oak again and an overlapping 363 was introduced between Crystal Palace and Elephant and Castle. This provided more buses over the busiest section to Elephant, where passengers not wanting to continue along the 63 route towards Kings Cross can interchange to other bus routes or to the Underground. There have been plenty of posts on other threads suggesting routes that could be merged. What is commonly overlooked is that the overlapping routes provide extra capacity over the busiest sections. |
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Post by bk10mfe on Apr 22, 2024 18:42:48 GMT
Merging the 78 & 363 might not be a bad shout & would have certainly been a better idea than extending the 388 to Peckham to replace the 78. The 381 could be extended to Nunhead to cover that section of the 78. Thou I did quite like the Peckham to London Bridge like via Tooley Street as opposed to the very indirect 381 which was proposed for the 388. The 343 already links Peckham to London Bridge through a faster routing than the proposed 388 & extending the 388 to Peckham would have made it too unreliable. I also don’t want the 388 to be changed anymore as it has already had its route changed about 20 times in the last decade. |
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Post by greg on Apr 22, 2024 23:57:51 GMT
What do people think of the 67/329 now that this a thread?
Now the 67 has been cut to Dalston, I have always thought an Enfield to Dalston route would be quite popular via Wood Green and Palmers Green.
What are your thoughts
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Post by vjaska on Apr 23, 2024 0:06:16 GMT
What do people think of the 67/329 now that this a thread? Now the 67 has been cut to Dalston, I have always thought an Enfield to Dalston route would be quite popular via Wood Green and Palmers Green. What are your thoughts I think merging routes on the whole is a waste of time and effort - usually, the choices & type of route involved don't match at all and I personally think the 67 & 329 would be another where I don't see the benefit of merging them. Why would someone in Enfield want to go to Dalston? |
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Post by vjaska on Apr 23, 2024 0:07:51 GMT
Merging the 78 & 363 might not be a bad shout & would have certainly been a better idea than extending the 388 to Peckham to replace the 78. The 381 could be extended to Nunhead to cover that section of the 78. Shoreditch to Crystal Palace via Tower Bridge would just cause likely reliability issues to the 363 section, particularly south of Honor Oak where the links are more unique. |
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Post by southlondonbus on Apr 23, 2024 3:09:22 GMT
What do people think of the 67/329 now that this a thread? Now the 67 has been cut to Dalston, I have always thought an Enfield to Dalston route would be quite popular via Wood Green and Palmers Green. What are your thoughts I think merging routes on the whole is a waste of time and effort - usually, the choices & type of route involved don't match at all and I personally think the 67 & 329 would be another where I don't see the benefit of merging them. Why would someone in Enfield want to go to Dalston? It would have the advantage thou freeing up stand space for the 91 at Wood Green meaning the 123 might not need cutting back to Turnpike Lane. |
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Post by greenboy on Apr 23, 2024 4:27:56 GMT
What do people think of the 67/329 now that this a thread? Now the 67 has been cut to Dalston, I have always thought an Enfield to Dalston route would be quite popular via Wood Green and Palmers Green. What are your thoughts I definitely agree with that one, much better than cutting the 123 back to Turnpike Lane. |
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Post by djs76 on Apr 23, 2024 6:12:00 GMT
What do people think of the 67/329 now that this a thread? Now the 67 has been cut to Dalston, I have always thought an Enfield to Dalston route would be quite popular via Wood Green and Palmers Green. What are your thoughts I think merging routes on the whole is a waste of time and effort - usually, the choices & type of route involved don't match at all and I personally think the 67 & 329 would be another where I don't see the benefit of merging them. Why would someone in Enfield want to go to Dalston? It's not necessarily about end to end journeys though is it? Does anyone living in Wood Green want to get a bus all the way to Trafalgar Square or Waterloo? Probably not, but these routes exist. Whilst I'm not a huge fan of the suggested 67 & 329 merger, it would create new links as well as stand space in Wood Green and Turnpike Lane. |
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Post by bk10mfe on Apr 23, 2024 6:37:10 GMT
Merging the 78 & 363 might not be a bad shout & would have certainly been a better idea than extending the 388 to Peckham to replace the 78. The 381 could be extended to Nunhead to cover that section of the 78. Shoreditch to Crystal Palace via Tower Bridge would just cause likely reliability issues to the 363 section, particularly south of Honor Oak where the links are more unique. Could Crystal Palace-Aldgate work? TfL did want to remove routes between Aldgate & Liverpool St & the 42 duplicates the 78 between Tower Bridge & Liverpool St. If not cutting the merged 78 back to City Hall or London Bridge would definitely make the merged route more manageable. The same argument could also be made for extending the 388 to Peckham, where the route’s reliability would have been ruined on the Hackney & Stratford end. |
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