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Post by capitalomnibus on Jul 20, 2024 17:40:30 GMT
Also it was the Conservatives idea to join the EU, Labour did not want to join.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Jul 20, 2024 19:25:24 GMT
Do you think that the country knew what they were voting for when they voted for Brexit? Always remember that 48% of the votes cast were actually to remain in the EU (mine was). And London was overwhelmingly a "Remain" city. True, and furthermore most of the largest and/or Metropolitan cities voted Remain. All in PTC areas except Birmingham & Sheffield voted Remain, as did Bristol, Cardiff and Edinburgh for example. Some smaller cities like Oxford, Cambridge, Exeter and Leicester also voted Remain. Conversely, it was more commonplace for rural areas and smaller towns to vote Leave. |
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Post by MKAY315 on Jul 20, 2024 21:40:48 GMT
Do you think that the country knew what they were voting for when they voted for Brexit? I feel as though some that voted brexit didn't think it was going to hurt them. Little did they know. |
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Post by greenboy on Jul 21, 2024 4:42:59 GMT
Obviously not as it was the first time it had ever happened although I think most people had a pretty good idea. Anyway most people have long since accepted the outcome and moved on just as we've had to accept the recent general election result even though I'm not sure many Labour voters knew what they were voting for! What did Labour voters not know what they were voting for and if this is in relation to the prisons crisis then what other short term solutions are there?
In relation to Brexit which is what OP was discussing, one of the main problems that I had with the referendum was a simple "yes or no" to whether or not we would remain as a member of the EU however convenient it might have been. Euroscepticism has been rife in this country since Major and despite Thatcher being a proponent of the EU when it was first created, when she stepped down at the end of 1990 she was starting to dislike what the EU was becoming, despite the fact that she stood for the creation of the common market in the first place and was more against the regulations imposed by the EU. I think a "yes or no" style approach surrounding us being in or out of the EU would lead to some people dissatisfied with what they voted for because of how simplistic one's position was narrowed down to on the ballot paper, despite the fact that some people who voted to leave may have had a similar view to Mrs Thatcher in regards to her being pro certain aspects of the union but against other aspects.
Despite me being happy that Starmer is willing to pull us closer once again to Europe, I wouldn't want a second referendum for at least a decade.
Just my opinion and not particularly related to the prison crisis although on that subject I think questions need to be asked about why so many people are sent to prison in the UK compared to many other European countries. I'm not sure what else the referendum could have been other than a simple yes or no vote? I don't think most people want a second referendum or where would it end? |
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Post by WH241 on Aug 20, 2024 19:27:07 GMT
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Aug 20, 2024 19:32:04 GMT
I don't know why people are complaining about LCY, the increase will have many benefits to the local economy and obviously have the benefit of increasing air capacity in the local area. Now the sooner the 3rd Runway at Heathrow Airport is approved the better. |
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Post by WH241 on Aug 20, 2024 19:35:11 GMT
I don't know why people are complaining about LCY, the increase will have many benefits to the local economy and obviously have the benefit of increasing air capacity in the local area. Now the sooner the 3rd Runway at Heathrow Airport is approved the better. Try living under the flight path watching TV with windows and doors open. Can't see many benefits to the local community when its mainly business customers who arrive on trains / cabs direct to the airport. Granted there might be more jobs but the local built up residential areas should be taken into consideration. |
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Aug 20, 2024 19:44:29 GMT
I don't know why people are complaining about LCY, the increase will have many benefits to the local economy and obviously have the benefit of increasing air capacity in the local area. Now the sooner the 3rd Runway at Heathrow Airport is approved the better. Try living under the flight path watching TV with windows and doors open. Can't see many benefits to the local community when its mainly business customers who arrive on trains / cabs direct to the airport. Granted there might be more jobs but the local built up residential areas should be taken into consideration. I do live under the flight path and watch TV with the windows open. There are plenty of airports around the world which are more densely populated locally and they don't complain. It's a national benefit and I'm sure any benefit provided by City Airport is more important than a few unhappy locals. |
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Post by ronnie on Aug 20, 2024 20:24:05 GMT
Try living under the flight path watching TV with windows and doors open. Can't see many benefits to the local community when its mainly business customers who arrive on trains / cabs direct to the airport. Granted there might be more jobs but the local built up residential areas should be taken into consideration. I do live under the flight path and watch TV with the windows open. There are plenty of airports around the world which are more densely populated locally and they don't complain. It's a national benefit and I'm sure any benefit provided by City Airport is more important than a few unhappy locals. I hear you and I would tend to agree However, the announcement is coming the same day as Greenwich council steamrolling ahead with its LTN plans in order to “reduce pollution” while just across the river apparently more planes can land as it’s not polluted enough Typical Labour |
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Post by southlondonbus on Aug 20, 2024 20:36:08 GMT
I don't know why people are complaining about LCY, the increase will have many benefits to the local economy and obviously have the benefit of increasing air capacity in the local area. Now the sooner the 3rd Runway at Heathrow Airport is approved the better. That will find opposition from the old Labour guard namely John McDonnell so expect that kicked in the long grass again as it was with Boris. |
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Aug 20, 2024 20:44:45 GMT
I don't know why people are complaining about LCY, the increase will have many benefits to the local economy and obviously have the benefit of increasing air capacity in the local area. Now the sooner the 3rd Runway at Heathrow Airport is approved the better. That will find opposition from the old Labour guard namely John McDonnell so expect that kicked in the long grass again as it was with Boris. I don't think John McDonnell would be able to stop something like that as he's not in any sort of power. |
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Post by southlondon413 on Aug 21, 2024 1:48:17 GMT
Try living under the flight path watching TV with windows and doors open. Can't see many benefits to the local community when its mainly business customers who arrive on trains / cabs direct to the airport. Granted there might be more jobs but the local built up residential areas should be taken into consideration. I do live under the flight path and watch TV with the windows open. There are plenty of airports around the world which are more densely populated locally and they don't complain. It's a national benefit and I'm sure any benefit provided by City Airport is more important than a few unhappy locals. I’ve flown from City a couple of times on business and it is fantastic. It’s night and day from Heathrow which I detest. |
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Post by busman on Aug 21, 2024 5:59:12 GMT
I do live under the flight path and watch TV with the windows open. There are plenty of airports around the world which are more densely populated locally and they don't complain. It's a national benefit and I'm sure any benefit provided by City Airport is more important than a few unhappy locals. I’ve flown from City a couple of times on business and it is fantastic. It’s night and day from Heathrow which I detest. Until recently I lived along the flight path into LCY - It’s my favourite UK airport to travel from. For business connections it is vital and brings many jobs into the local economy. I didn’t mind the flights - although there was one early flight between 6-7am that used a really noisy aircraft. If the new slots are truly only available for quieter aircraft then I’m all for it. |
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Post by southlondon413 on Aug 21, 2024 6:35:15 GMT
I’ve flown from City a couple of times on business and it is fantastic. It’s night and day from Heathrow which I detest. Until recently I lived along the flight path into LCY - It’s my favourite UK airport to travel from. For business connections it is vital and brings many jobs into the local economy. I didn’t mind the flights - although there was one early flight between 6-7am that used a really noisy aircraft. If the new slots are truly only available for quieter aircraft then I’m all for it. It is vitally important, not just for business but for the average person as well. It’s the only airport that connects to cities like Antwerp and Rotterdam. |
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Post by southlondonbus on Aug 21, 2024 7:18:18 GMT
That will find opposition from the old Labour guard namely John McDonnell so expect that kicked in the long grass again as it was with Boris. I don't think John McDonnell would be able to stop something like that as he's not in any sort of power. Obviously not on his own but there were a large number of MPs amongst both parties who were opposed aswell as all 3 mayors so far. |
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