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Post by lj61nwc on Jul 24, 2024 20:43:18 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c7259wpl1x9oOver past week there has been articles regarding investigation into brutality in GMP Custody Suites specifically against females. Today, a video is circulating of an armed officer at Manchester Airport near the car park kicking a suspects head whilst he is on the floor and with his arms by his side. This is followed by a stomp onto the suspects head. Whilst GMP have issued a statement stating that female officers were assaulted by four suspects, this isn't valid reasoning for the officer to assault a potential suspect who is on the floor. If you wish to watch the video, you can go to twitter or click the link article above. I am not trying to put all GMP officers into a herd and saying they all are breaking the law, but surely there is something wrong with their training process if an officer in control of firearms loses his temper. Obviously some may say the suspect "deserved it", but we aren't aware what actions this specific suspect committed and whether he directly assaulted one of the officers.
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Post by greenboy on Jul 24, 2024 21:31:25 GMT
This really does look appalling regardless of whatever happened before and the IOPC really need to act quickly to restore public confidence.
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Post by greenboy on Jul 26, 2024 21:16:19 GMT
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Post by WH241 on Jul 27, 2024 21:56:15 GMT
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Post by Paul on Jul 27, 2024 22:49:20 GMT
Aggressive males who have already assaulted a number of officers and broken a female officer’s nose who have not been fully restrained even after being tasered are subject to the treatment armed police are trained to give. Nothing to see here. If an armed police officer tells you to cease and desist and to come quietly then you do it. What’s the phrase? F*** around and find out? These ‘gentlemen’ did and look what happened. I’m firmly behind the police on this occasion
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Post by vjaska on Jul 27, 2024 23:45:22 GMT
Aggressive males who have already assaulted a number of officers and broken a female officer’s nose who have not been fully restrained even after being tasered are subject to the treatment armed police are trained to give. Nothing to see here. If an armed police officer tells you to cease and desist and to come quietly then you do it. What’s the phrase? F*** around and find out? These ‘gentlemen’ did and look what happened. I’m firmly behind the police on this occasion I think everyone is in the wrong personally. I agree with you in terms of how the civillians handled themselves but policeman still can't put themselves beyond the law by punching and stomping on people and behave like those civillians did. No one comes out of this looking good IMO. |
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Post by buspete on Jul 28, 2024 0:02:56 GMT
The police officer lost control kicking the assailant in the head on the floor. However they were armed police officer/s had the officer drawn his weapon in self defence and that didn’t work, then shot the assailant, then so be it. But not a good look kicking someone in the head.
We are the only country in the world that don’t routinely arm our police, which is crazy.
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Post by Paul on Jul 28, 2024 1:16:21 GMT
My understanding is that firearms officers are trained to not put their weapons down when dealing with uncooperative detainees to prevent their weapons being taken and used against them. Given the aggression shown towards them by the assailants, it is more than reasonable for them to assume their weapons would be used against them. In that situation they are trained to neutralise assailants by using their feet. Is it a good look? No, not at all. But given the circumstances of this incident I feel the officers are perfectly entitled to have acted in the way they did. Was it right to suspend them given the initial video of the incident? Probably yes, but given the subsequent release of the CCTV showing what happened to provoke the reaction of the police officer, I feel the officers should be reinstated without question
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Post by Paul on Jul 28, 2024 1:17:23 GMT
The police officer lost control kicking the assailant in the head on the floor. However they were armed police officer/s had the officer drawn his weapon in self defence and that didn’t work, then shot the assailant, then so be it. But not a good look kicking someone in the head. We are the only country in the world that don’t routinely arm our police, which is crazy. Are you suggesting shooting someone is preferable to neutralising them with a swift boot to the face? |
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Post by greenboy on Jul 28, 2024 4:24:48 GMT
Whilst the recently released footage does provide a bit more context, I'm still not sure it justifies the police actions.
Anyway legal proceedings are ongoing so I'll wait and see what transpires.
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Post by greenboy on Jul 28, 2024 4:26:16 GMT
The police officer lost control kicking the assailant in the head on the floor. However they were armed police officer/s had the officer drawn his weapon in self defence and that didn’t work, then shot the assailant, then so be it. But not a good look kicking someone in the head. We are the only country in the world that don’t routinely arm our police, which is crazy. Suggesting police officers should be routinely armed is crazy and I think you'll find most police officers wouldn't want that anyway. |
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Post by greenboy on Jul 28, 2024 9:38:04 GMT
It's clear that extremists, from both sides of the political divide, are jumping on the bandwagon here and trying to use this incident to further their cause.
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Post by jacques on Jul 28, 2024 11:59:44 GMT
Aggressive males who have already assaulted a number of officers and broken a female officer’s nose who have not been fully restrained even after being tasered are subject to the treatment armed police are trained to give. Nothing to see here. If an armed police officer tells you to cease and desist and to come quietly then you do it. What’s the phrase? F*** around and find out? These ‘gentlemen’ did and look what happened. I’m firmly behind the police on this occasion I think everyone is in the wrong personally. I agree with you in terms of how the civillians handled themselves but policeman still can't put themselves beyond the law by punching and stomping on people and behave like those civillians did. No one comes out of this looking good IMO. I disagree, the police have to look out for their own safety, these criminals could have been terrorists, this is an airport after all, common sense has to prevail its the only way to reduce terrorism. Footage clearly shows these men resisting arrest and throwing punches, police should use FULL FORCE to bring the situation under control. Too many people think this is the pre 1950s pleasant and good natured England, and we should just let the police out and about with just a whistle to keep law and order. Walkaround London and you will see degenerates everywhere. |
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Post by SILENCED on Jul 28, 2024 12:04:09 GMT
I think everyone is in the wrong personally. I agree with you in terms of how the civillians handled themselves but policeman still can't put themselves beyond the law by punching and stomping on people and behave like those civillians did. No one comes out of this looking good IMO. I disagree, the police have to look out for their own safety, these criminals could have been terrorists, this is an airport after all, common sense has to prevail its the only way to reduce terrorism. Footage clearly shows these men resisting arrest and throwing punches, police should use FULL FORCE to bring the situation under control. Too many people think this is the pre 1950s pleasant and good natured England, and we should just let the police out and about with just a whistle to keep law and order. Walkaround London and you will see degenerates everywhere. In many other countries you attack armed police you are likely to be shot! |
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Post by lj61nwc on Jul 28, 2024 12:17:43 GMT
I think everyone is in the wrong personally. I agree with you in terms of how the civillians handled themselves but policeman still can't put themselves beyond the law by punching and stomping on people and behave like those civillians did. No one comes out of this looking good IMO. Footage clearly shows these men resisting arrest and throwing punches, police should use FULL FORCE to bring the situation under control. I agree, but once the suspect is on the floor, the officer needs to control his emotions and refrain from kicking him and stomping on him, this just agitated the situation and created more tension. This same officer later goes and kicks another man who is on his knees with his hands behind his head. |
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