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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2007 14:18:37 GMT
As someone said before, the Victoria line is BURSTING and I believe its way over capacity, all LU can do is try and make the cramped journey a bit more comfortable for the 10's of 1,000's of commuters that use it everyday. Even with trains running every 2/3 mins at peak times, they're still packed. The new 09TS trains and increased frequency should make the daily commute a bit more bearable. I think, and I'm sure alot of you will agree, that London Underground need to concentrate on sorting out the lines they already have before creating new ones. For example, the Northern Line is a line that you must pay attention to to avoid travelling on the wrong branch, yesterday, on the southbound platform at Kentish Town, the train pulled in displaying High Barnet on the front, and the announcement said "This station is Archway, this train terminates at High Barnet"... when it should've said "This is Kentish Town, this train terminates at Morden via Bank). I was surprised at the amount of people that got just got on and sat down.
I've been using the London Overground alot since it transferred from Silverlink, and I can say its only ran on time one time that I've used it, and I missed the train. That was due to me thinking "I'll turn up 5 mins late cos the trains are always late". Trust that day to be the only day they actually ran on time!!
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Post by metrobusfan on Feb 13, 2009 18:10:30 GMT
Apparently the "underground" extension to Croydon will run via forest hill, sydenham etc, which is meant to be part of the "overground" line, but to me this seems pointless - since the national rail services already follows a similar route - does anyone else feel that TFL should have extended the Victoria line from Brixton into Croydon, thus providing an underground link to one of the more populated Southern London areas, unlike Morden! the east london extension to Croydon was in the pipe line for many years before I do beleive as well that the Victoria Line should extend from Brixton. I was thinking about extending to Gatwick to allow another alternative instead of the Gatwick Express or National Rail. But obviously it will lead to financial difficulties!!! I like the proposed Norhen Line extension to Sutton. At least it has a LU line serving it and hopefully if the Croydon Tam extends to Sutton. It will develop Sutton Town Centre and create more connections! I do find the extension of the Est London Line to Croydon a bit strange, following the National Rail line. I would have been better if the line extended from New Cross Gate to Croydon calling at Deptford Bridge, Lewisham, Rushy Green, Catford Garage, Beckenham Hill, Beckenham Road, Penge Pawleyne Arms, Anerley, Anerley Hill, Crystal Palace.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2009 18:21:26 GMT
the east london extension to Croydon was in the pipe line for many years before I do beleive as well that the Victoria Line should extend from Brixton. I was thinking about extending to Gatwick to allow another alternative instead of the Gatwick Express or National Rail. But obviously it will lead to financial difficulties!!! I like the proposed Norhen Line extension to Sutton. At least it has a LU line serving it and hopefully if the Croydon Tam extends to Sutton. It will develop Sutton Town Centre and create more connections! I do find the extension of the Est London Line to Croydon a bit strange, following the National Rail line. I would have been better if the line extended from New Cross Gate to Croydon calling at Deptford Bridge, Lewisham, Rushy Green, Catford Garage, Beckenham Hill, Beckenham Road, Penge Pawleyne Arms, Anerley, Anerley Hill, Crystal Palace. Please familiarise yourself with Forum Charter rule 7 7. Please do not bring up an old topic (more than a month since it was last replied to) unless you have something that will help in the discussion. Pointless posts will not be tolerated
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Post by ServerKing on Mar 28, 2009 0:20:15 GMT
I do beleive as well that the Victoria Line should extend from Brixton. I was thinking about extending to Gatwick to allow another alternative instead of the Gatwick Express or National Rail. But obviously it will lead to financial difficulties!!! I like the proposed Norhen Line extension to Sutton. At least it has a LU line serving it and hopefully if the Croydon Tam extends to Sutton. It will develop Sutton Town Centre and create more connections! I do find the extension of the Est London Line to Croydon a bit strange, following the National Rail line. I would have been better if the line extended from New Cross Gate to Croydon calling at Deptford Bridge, Lewisham, Rushy Green, Catford Garage, Beckenham Hill, Beckenham Road, Penge Pawleyne Arms, Anerley, Anerley Hill, Crystal Palace. Good gravy A Victoria line extension to Gatwick - you can't be serious ;D Didn't you read my post before yours, lol ;D It's not just the financial difficulties, its just faaaaar too long to keep a realistic headway between trains, and as you said there's the Gatwick Express and Nat Rail so it's pointless. I was going to try and find a larger ' ' to emphasise my point further but I can't find any They could also extend the Vic at the other end to Stansted - they'll be a branch line off after Seven Sisters / Tottenham Hale ;D Seriously, there is one question I did want to ask about the Revenue teams on the Overground - If you have no money to travel (as my dozy brother-in-law did) and you are caught, aren't they supposed to give you 21 days to pay a Penalty Charge (i.e £50), or can they just send the matter straight to Court? He got caught at Wanstead Pk, his ticket would have been £1.50, but now he's been Summonsed, and Court Costs now total £105 Any ideas if the Revenue Teams have these powers or has this one officer gone over the top?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2009 0:45:52 GMT
Good gravy A Victoria line extension to Gatwick - you can't be serious ;D Didn't you read my post before yours, lol ;D It's not just the financial difficulties, its just faaaaar too long to keep a realistic headway between trains, and as you said there's the Gatwick Express and Nat Rail so it's pointless. I was going to try and find a larger ' ' to emphasise my point further but I can't find any They could also extend the Vic at the other end to Stansted - they'll be a branch line off after Seven Sisters / Tottenham Hale ;D Seriously, there is one question I did want to ask about the Revenue teams on the Overground - If you have no money to travel (as my dozy brother-in-law did) and you are caught, aren't they supposed to give you 21 days to pay a Penalty Charge (i.e £50), or can they just send the matter straight to Court? He got caught at Wanstead Pk, his ticket would have been £1.50, but now he's been Summonsed, and Court Costs now total £105 Any ideas if the Revenue Teams have these powers or has this one officer gone over the top? That's almost a new record ServerKing - quoting a post over 1 year old (I'll let you off though seeing as this thread was already dragged up last month and it's an important enquiry anyway) I'm pretty sure Revenue are supposed to issue a Penalty Charge that should be paid in a number of days (forgotten the exact amount of days/money). No doubt one someone else on here will be able to tell you. I can't see why they'd take the matter straight to court TBH. Imagine they done that to all the fare evaders you get on bendies - the courts would have their hands full
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2009 8:08:21 GMT
The revenue inspector will ask questions and note down what you say. This goes into a report for the Company to decide. They will usually go to court if they believe that a fraudulatant attempt to travel has been made or there was no intention of paying.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2009 2:16:03 GMT
Seriously, there is one question I did want to ask about the Revenue teams on the Overground - If you have no money to travel (as my dozy brother-in-law did) and you are caught, aren't they supposed to give you 21 days to pay a Penalty Charge (i.e £50), or can they just send the matter straight to Court? He got caught at Wanstead Pk, his ticket would have been £1.50, but now he's been Summonsed, and Court Costs now total £105 Any ideas if the Revenue Teams have these powers or has this one officer gone over the top? Yes they have the power to take you straight to court. In this case, dozy or not, your brother-in-law travelled despite having no means of paying the fare......since when has it been free? Having no money means there was no intention of paying the fare - someone who has a ticket but has blatantly not paid the correct fare (ie, a zone 2-6 Travelcard but travelled through zone 1) would get a penalty fare as they have at least paid something. Therefore I don't see anything wrong in this instance.
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Post by ServerKing on Mar 29, 2009 14:27:45 GMT
He waw ironically on his wayto Wanstead to do a Police check ;D He was thinking of doing Security work. Still anything to get him out of the house - I'm sure the Community Service order they'll give him might get him into some form of work, still it beats him sitting around watching MTV Base all day long... ;D Still, I'm not too happy with him as I'll end up bailing him out yet again. He still travels 'free' on the 149... I didn't realise the previous post was a year old I'm a rare visitor to this section of the Forum... I'm too busy whinging about the noisy VLW's on the 243, and why DW201 hasn't made her debut yet ;D
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Post by metrobusfan on Jun 9, 2009 15:01:51 GMT
Apparently the "underground" extension to Croydon will run via forest hill, sydenham etc, which is meant to be part of the "overground" line, but to me this seems pointless - since the national rail services already follows a similar route - does anyone else feel that TFL should have extended the Victoria line from Brixton into Croydon, thus providing an underground link to one of the more populated Southern London areas, unlike Morden! it's about time the east london line comes to croydon, its supose to come here for many years
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2009 15:33:11 GMT
Apparently the "underground" extension to Croydon will run via forest hill, sydenham etc, which is meant to be part of the "overground" line, but to me this seems pointless - since the national rail services already follows a similar route - does anyone else feel that TFL should have extended the Victoria line from Brixton into Croydon, thus providing an underground link to one of the more populated Southern London areas, unlike Morden! it's about time the east london line comes to croydon, its supose to come here for many years i beleve its next year ;D
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Post by snowman on Jul 13, 2009 13:27:33 GMT
The Mayor has formally unveilled the first class 378 overground train Initially the first 24 units will be 3 car and run on the old Silverlink metro lines that became part of overground, they will be lengthened to 4 cars within a couple of years. 20 more will follow for East London reopening in June 2010 Another 10 sets will follow on along by 2011 to provide enhanced frequecy. (will eventually be 54 x 4car trains) Some new diesel sets for Gospel Oak-Barking will also be introduced during 2010 (8 x 2car) www.tfl.gov.uk/corporate/media/newscentre/12225.aspxThe full peak hour service frequency from 2011 (Taken from July Modern Railways magazine) is Richmond-Stratford 4 per hour Gospel Oak-Barking 4 Euston - Watford 3 Clapham Jct - Willesden Jct 2 Clapham Jct - Stratford 2 will be 6 per hour Willesden Jct - Gospel Oak - Camden Road will be 8 per hour Camden Road- Stratford East London line (whatever it is to be called) Highbury & Islington -Dalston Jct 8 per hour Dalston Jct - Surrey Quays 12, and South of Surrey Quays 4 each on New Cross, West Croydon, and Crystal Palace lines Gospel Oak-Stratford will be completely closed from Christmas 2009 - April 2010 Finally after the Olympics the weaker bridge near Camden Road will be rebuilt, to restore 4 tracks and East London trains will be extended from Highbury to Camden Road (the central platform at Camden Road will become a reversing line as Northern lines will have reopened.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2009 16:53:56 GMT
East London trains will not run to Camden Road. They terminate at Highbury using the platforms London Overground use now.
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Post by jrussa on Jul 13, 2009 20:20:05 GMT
East London trains will not run to Camden Road. They terminate at Highbury using the platforms London Overground use now. Snowman said after the olmypics, and that is about right, when more phrases (construction) would take place, to make the London Overground, like a circular route, with a couple of branches en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:London_Overground_as_a_circle.svgThat how it is planned to be
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2009 4:17:16 GMT
They would have to reverse at Clapham Junction though!
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Post by snowman on Jul 14, 2009 15:36:53 GMT
They would have to reverse at Clapham Junction though! Correct, Platform 1 will b e re-opened and the currently single track Latchmere spur will be restored to double track sometime in next 3 years. There is a middle track between platform 2 and 3 which leads to some little used sidings, as overground trains are only 4 cars, it would be possible to extend the Western end of platform 2 to reach the middle track effectively giving 3 platforms for overground at Clapham. This would allow more turn-back flexibility. Also as 2 of the 4 trains from Clapham via Kensington will terminate at Willesden, it would be possible to revese and effectively offer a South London to West London service without changing.
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