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Post by VMH2537 on May 3, 2021 17:18:33 GMT
Are there any short single deck electric buses operators can order for routes such as the 439/S2? I looked on Optare/ADL/Caetano and the shortest length seems to be 9.2m. Are there any shorter ones available? (eg 8.9m) Alexandra Dennis has made a 9.7m BYD for the 100, but I don't think they made a 8.9m size yet based on what I found. A possible 8.9 variant could be made as there are strong demands for greener busses.
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Post by paulsw2 on May 3, 2021 17:25:19 GMT
Not a bus question but an underground one when did the vending machines get removed from platforms? Around 2009 I believe
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Post by richard on May 3, 2021 19:04:24 GMT
Not a bus question but an underground one when did the vending machines get removed from platforms? Around 2009 I believe Thanks. I thought it would've been earlier than that.
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Post by Catford94 on May 3, 2021 21:46:48 GMT
Sunday service daytime Normal Monday night service No idea why there is inconsistency and not a Sunday night service Sunday night services on night routes tend to start earlier than the rest of the week, so as to compensate for the early finish from train/tube lines in the suburbs. Apparently on the TfL tube network, bank holiday operations do not directly translate into a mirror image of a Sunday operation (more of a Saturday operation in fact), so night buses do not need to start as early on a Monday night bank holiday as the last trains are not significantly earlier than normal.
Having had a look at a selection of night routes on ' London Bus Routes' I have found a few like this - the N5 and N20 which follow much of the north London bits of the Northern Line and the N9 to Heathrow, but the majority (that I have looked at) seem to be on "Sunday night/Monday morning to Thursday night/Friday morning" timetables - including the N 155 which follows the southern end of the Northern Line, which I would have thought ought to match the routes at the northern end of the line.
I clearly didn't have night routes like this to look after on my patch!
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Post by enviroPB on May 4, 2021 12:57:58 GMT
Sunday night services on night routes tend to start earlier than the rest of the week, so as to compensate for the early finish from train/tube lines in the suburbs. Apparently on the TfL tube network, bank holiday operations do not directly translate into a mirror image of a Sunday operation (more of a Saturday operation in fact), so night buses do not need to start as early on a Monday night bank holiday as the last trains are not significantly earlier than normal.
Having had a look at a selection of night routes on ' London Bus Routes' I have found a few like this - the N5 and N20 which follow much of the north London bits of the Northern Line and the N9 to Heathrow, but the majority (that I have looked at) seem to be on "Sunday night/Monday morning to Thursday night/Friday morning" timetables - including the N 155 which follows the southern end of the Northern Line, which I would have thought ought to match the routes at the northern end of the line.
I clearly didn't have night routes like this to look after on my patch!
Where's your patch? 🤔 Yes most night routes are standardised to have a Sunday night- Thursday night timetable, but relative to the train lines some routes mirror, they do commence service a tad earlier than expected. I'll take the N551 as an example as there's been very little timetable changes in the 13 years it's operational. Buses start at 23:20 in the Beckton area when the last DLR out of Beckton is 00:25 on most days of the week. However on Sundays last trains are an hour earlier on the DLR network so the 23:20 start on the N551 ties in well when DLR in Beckton knocks off just after 11pm.
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Post by Busboy105 on May 4, 2021 15:57:19 GMT
Where did the 48’s LTs go after it was withdrawn?
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Post by richard on May 4, 2021 16:17:37 GMT
Where did the 48’s LTs go after it was withdrawn? Tottenham for the 19 conversion
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Post by Busboy105 on May 4, 2021 16:40:31 GMT
Where did the 48’s LTs go after it was withdrawn? Tottenham for the 19 conversion Ok thanks
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Post by LK65EBO on May 4, 2021 18:36:01 GMT
I was just wondering, what's the highest PVR a route has ever been?
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on May 4, 2021 18:45:45 GMT
I was just wondering, what's the highest PVR a route has ever been? Would imagine recent times, it was the 70 (or was it 72) of the 38 when the route converted to Decker in 2009.
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Post by Trafalgax on May 4, 2021 19:49:00 GMT
Does anyone know why 30 goes via Portman Sqaure and Portman Street to Marble Arch while the others go via Orchard Street. At first i thought it was because 30 terminates there but then i realised 189 terminates there too.
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Post by kmkcheng on May 4, 2021 19:49:24 GMT
I was just wondering, what's the highest PVR a route has ever been? Would imagine recent times, it was the 70 (or was it 72) of the 38 when the route converted to Decker in 2009. The 38 had a PVR of 73 back then. In the London Transport days there had been PVRs of over 100. The 73 in the 1930’s at one point had a PVR of 107. Not sure if any other routes can match that
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Post by Busboy105 on May 4, 2021 20:35:02 GMT
Does anyone know why 30 goes via Portman Sqaure and Portman Street to Marble Arch while the others go via Orchard Street. At first i thought it was because 30 terminates there but then i realised 189 terminates there too. The 189 used to terminate at Oxford Circus until 2017 so it would’ve turn left onto Oxford Street. No idea why the 30 serves Portman Square; probably to give it a bus service i suppose
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Post by thesquirrels on May 4, 2021 21:38:28 GMT
Would imagine recent times, it was the 70 (or was it 72) of the 38 when the route converted to Decker in 2009. The 38 had a PVR of 73 back then. In the London Transport days there had been PVRs of over 100. The 73 in the 1930’s at one point had a PVR of 107. Not sure if any other routes can match that Ian Armstong's history page for route 12 shows a weekday PVR of 113 in 1953, before slowly falling away. www.londonbuses.co.uk/_routes/current/012.html
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Post by COBO on May 5, 2021 20:57:38 GMT
What are the measurements of a mini Wright StreetLite 8.8m or 8.9m?
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