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Post by southlondonbus on Apr 4, 2024 4:41:29 GMT
Is it true that buses aren’t allowed to reverse? Buses should not reverse unaided in service for any more than they should. This stems back from the 1970's due to someone got killed by a DMS reversing That was one of the reasons the 37/H37 change happened as backstreet diversion at Isleworth was being more effected by parked cars and it was becoming quite normal for a bus to back up a considerable distance if another bus came along.
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Post by gwiwer on Apr 4, 2024 9:12:20 GMT
Buses should not reverse unaided in service for any more than they should. This stems back from the 1970's due to someone got killed by a DMS reversing That was one of the reasons the 37/H37 change happened as backstreet diversion at Isleworth was being more effected by parked cars and it was becoming quite normal for a bus to back up a considerable distance if another bus came along. Whilst that is true was that particular route change not also because the conversion of the DD route 37 to the SD route H37 meant that the deviation away from Isleworth station bridge was no longer required? In any case the old LOR is no longer available as Linkfield Road is now one-way northbound only.
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Post by southlondonbus on Apr 4, 2024 11:46:59 GMT
That was one of the reasons the 37/H37 change happened as backstreet diversion at Isleworth was being more effected by parked cars and it was becoming quite normal for a bus to back up a considerable distance if another bus came along. Whilst that is true was that particular route change not also because the conversion of the DD route 37 to the SD route H37 meant that the deviation away from Isleworth station bridge was no longer required? In any case the old LOR is no longer available as Linkfield Road is now one-way northbound only. Probably bit of both. The road was becoming more unsuitable for buses down it so logically the best thing was to send it direct under the bridge but at the cost of single decking the route. As it turned out the high freq SD operation proved attractive really and most the time it copes reasonably well.
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Post by redexpress on Apr 4, 2024 11:51:24 GMT
That was one of the reasons the 37/H37 change happened as backstreet diversion at Isleworth was being more effected by parked cars and it was becoming quite normal for a bus to back up a considerable distance if another bus came along. Whilst that is true was that particular route change not also because the conversion of the DD route 37 to the SD route H37 meant that the deviation away from Isleworth station bridge was no longer required? In any case the old LOR is no longer available as Linkfield Road is now one-way northbound only. I suspect that the 37 would have been split into two routes, rather than three, if Isleworth hadn't been an issue. Prior to being split the route was running in two sections for most of the day, the weekday split being Peckham - Putney and Clapham Junction - Hounslow. The 1991 split could have just formalised this arrangement into two routes, which would have maintained a cross-Richmond service as well as reducing pressure on stand space in Richmond town centre (which has been a problem ever since).
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Post by gwiwer on Apr 4, 2024 22:41:26 GMT
Whilst that is true was that particular route change not also because the conversion of the DD route 37 to the SD route H37 meant that the deviation away from Isleworth station bridge was no longer required? In any case the old LOR is no longer available as Linkfield Road is now one-way northbound only. I suspect that the 37 would have been split into two routes, rather than three, if Isleworth hadn't been an issue. Prior to being split the route was running in two sections for most of the day, the weekday split being Peckham - Putney and Clapham Junction - Hounslow. The 1991 split could have just formalised this arrangement into two routes, which would have maintained a cross-Richmond service as well as reducing pressure on stand space in Richmond town centre (which has been a problem ever since). The cross-Richmond service could have been maintained if the 337 had gone to West Middx Hospital via Isleworth War Memorial and the H37 run as it is but at a wider headway to allow for the DD service over half of that route. This could still be done but stand space at WMH is as much of an issue as it is in Richmond.
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Post by capitalomnibus on Apr 4, 2024 23:18:36 GMT
Buses should not reverse unaided in service for any more than they should. This stems back from the 1970's due to someone got killed by a DMS reversing Perhaps this is a stupid question but… don’t buses have parking sensors now to help prevent things like this? Don’t newer buses have reverse cameras? Trouble is are all of them in working condition. Some parking sensors are not replaced when they no longer work/damaged. Reverse cameras which has been on buses for over 20 years now. Some do not work. Some are working but dirty or damaged partially or poorly adjusted camera. It is an endless list.
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Post by Catford94 on Apr 5, 2024 20:37:25 GMT
Does anyone know if all is well with 'Ian's Bus Stop' website (countrybus.org)?
I have not been able to get it for a few weeks now, but others (on another forum) were reporting problems a week or so before I had problems, and other people have said they can get to it.
I don't entirely understand the technicalities (DNS?), but not sure if it's something that is stopping some internet providers from connecting to it. (I'm with BT Internet) - I've had similar once or twice in the past, but it's usually got sorted out after a few days.
Anyone got any bright ideas? And is it something that the website owners (although I don't know how to make contact, especially with not being able to see the site) should take up with their internet provider, or should I try and take it up with mine?
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Post by gwiwer on Apr 5, 2024 21:34:21 GMT
I can access the site normally on the mobile but not on the desktop. It was last updated on 10th March so seems to be alive and well.
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Post by redexpress on Apr 5, 2024 21:36:42 GMT
Does anyone know if all is well with 'Ian's Bus Stop' website (countrybus.org)? I have not been able to get it for a few weeks now, but others (on another forum) were reporting problems a week or so before I had problems, and other people have said they can get to it. I don't entirely understand the technicalities (DNS?), but not sure if it's something that is stopping some internet providers from connecting to it. (I'm with BT Internet) - I've had similar once or twice in the past, but it's usually got sorted out after a few days. Anyone got any bright ideas? And is it something that the website owners (although I don't know how to make contact, especially with not being able to see the site) should take up with their internet provider, or should I try and take it up with mine? The site is still live and is working for me, for now! It's long been plagued by intermittent DNS issues. I think the website owner is aware of the issues but is unable to resolve them, so there's not much point in trying to contact him. I suspect the issue will eventually sort itself out - it usually does, although it might take weeks or even months if past experience is anything to go by.
In the meantime you could try an archived version of the site on the Wayback Machine. The most recent capture is only a month old. Bear in mind though that not all pages on the site are archived.
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Post by capitalomnibus on Apr 5, 2024 21:44:19 GMT
I can access the site normally on the mobile but not on the desktop. It was last updated on 10th March so seems to be alive and well. As above it only works on mobile or certain computers with VPN blocking. It works for me at work, but not at home.
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Post by Catford94 on Apr 5, 2024 23:06:18 GMT
Thanks - glad to hear it's not the result of anything unpleasant happening to the site owner, and yes, I've met the Wayback Machine.
There was a couple of days when I could get it via my mobile but not my computer. I'll give it a bit longer.
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Post by capitalomnibus on Apr 7, 2024 9:29:15 GMT
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Post by redexpress on Apr 7, 2024 11:39:51 GMT
That link works, but takes me to an old version of the site - last updated August 2012. A lot of new stuff has been added to the site since then!
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Post by vjaska on Apr 7, 2024 13:45:55 GMT
The regular site works for me on PC - says last update 10th March 2024. I've no special things on my PC like VPN or the like
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Post by billa on Apr 9, 2024 18:18:14 GMT
Buses should not reverse unaided in service for any more than they should. This stems back from the 1970's due to someone got killed by a DMS reversing Perhaps this is a stupid question but… don’t buses have parking sensors now to help prevent things like this? Don’t newer buses have reverse cameras? They do indeed. Usually its the CCTV camera at the rear of the vehicle that doubles up as a reverse Camera when the vehicle is put into Reverse. .
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