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Post by COBO on Oct 12, 2016 16:03:33 GMT
Are children allowed to enter the bus through the middle door?
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Post by john on Oct 12, 2016 16:56:33 GMT
Are children allowed to enter the bus through the middle door? No. In reality no one is unless they have prior permission from the driver OTHER than ramp users. |
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Post by COBO on Oct 12, 2016 17:10:40 GMT
Are children allowed to enter the bus through the middle door? No. In reality no one is unless they have prior permission from the driver OTHER than ramp users. I always thought that was the case. When it is school kick out I always see kids board though the middle door and the driver does nothing. |
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Post by john on Oct 12, 2016 17:38:22 GMT
No. In reality no one is unless they have prior permission from the driver OTHER than ramp users. I always thought that was the case. When it is school kick out I always see kids board though the middle door and the driver does nothing. Probably too much hassle. Personally I'd alight passengers first then let them board after shutting the front doors. Would rather lose time that way than trying to get kids to validate their oysters and having arguments. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2016 7:00:39 GMT
No. In reality no one is unless they have prior permission from the driver OTHER than ramp users. I always thought that was the case. When it is school kick out I always see kids board though the middle door and the driver does nothing. Some children do it as some sort of bizarre showing off to their mates as they know they shouldn't do it and that it causes annoyance. May have mentioned this before but when I was at school some kids tried this and the driver opened the cab door, looked at them and shouted "get off or I'll punch you in the face!". Shocking but the look of them scarpering back off was priceless! |
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Post by vjaska on Oct 13, 2016 11:54:37 GMT
I always thought that was the case. When it is school kick out I always see kids board though the middle door and the driver does nothing. Some children do it as some sort of bizarre showing off to their mates as they know they shouldn't do it and that it causes annoyance. May have mentioned this before but when I was at school some kids tried this and the driver opened the cab door, looked at them and shouted "get off or I'll punch you in the face!". Shocking but the look of them scarpering back off was priceless! Haha, that's one way to tell them I guess. When I was at school & college, the most common one I saw was drivers just simply refused to move the bus until the offenders paid or left - the kids would all eventually do one of the two options. |
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Oct 13, 2016 16:36:43 GMT
Some children do it as some sort of bizarre showing off to their mates as they know they shouldn't do it and that it causes annoyance. May have mentioned this before but when I was at school some kids tried this and the driver opened the cab door, looked at them and shouted "get off or I'll punch you in the face!". Shocking but the look of them scarpering back off was priceless! Haha, that's one way to tell them I guess. When I was at school & college, the most common one I saw was drivers just simply refused to move the bus until the offenders paid or left - the kids would all eventually do one of the two options. On a lot of the routes I use, the drivers usually don't bother with it. Whoever gets on the back just makes themselves liable to a fine. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2016 16:42:34 GMT
Haha, that's one way to tell them I guess. When I was at school & college, the most common one I saw was drivers just simply refused to move the bus until the offenders paid or left - the kids would all eventually do one of the two options. On a lot of the routes I use, the drivers usually don't bother with it. Whoever gets on the back just makes themselves liable to a fine. Loosely speaking perhaps. Revenue is so few and far between now, certainly in west London. I honestly can't remember the last time I saw those guys. The (lack of) risk being caught makes fare evasion a risk worth taking. |
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Post by enviroPB on Oct 14, 2016 17:50:05 GMT
On a lot of the routes I use, the drivers usually don't bother with it. Whoever gets on the back just makes themselves liable to a fine. Loosely speaking perhaps. Revenue is so few and far between now, certainly in west London. I honestly can't remember the last time I saw those guys. The (lack of) risk being caught makes fare evasion a risk worth taking. Certainly notice there's a concentrated pattern of revenue protection, at least in east London anyway. Inspectors like to make themselves known at half-terms, Christmas & Easter; the first couple weeks of the summer holidays. But by far inspectors salivate at the mouth this time of year, October, as September 30th is the annual end date for expiring Zip & 16+ oyster cards. I remember bus hopping from university to home a couple years ago. An inspector met me on the 1st bus and inspected my ticket; 2nd bus and he asked me again but he started to recognise me. By the third bus, the 25 no less, the revenue protector got tired of my face and let me off! |
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Post by sid on Oct 16, 2016 9:06:03 GMT
On a lot of the routes I use, the drivers usually don't bother with it. Whoever gets on the back just makes themselves liable to a fine. Loosely speaking perhaps. Revenue is so few and far between now, certainly in west London. I honestly can't remember the last time I saw those guys. The (lack of) risk being caught makes fare evasion a risk worth taking. I can only recall seeing one revenue check on a TfL bus in years, that was on a LT on the 148 and it was a somewhat half hearted check anyway. |
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Oct 16, 2016 9:43:42 GMT
Loosely speaking perhaps. Revenue is so few and far between now, certainly in west London. I honestly can't remember the last time I saw those guys. The (lack of) risk being caught makes fare evasion a risk worth taking. I can only recall seeing one revenue check on a TfL bus in years, that was on a LT on the 148 and it was a somewhat half hearted check anyway. I've come across many of these sorts of checks. Many a time have I seen an inspector just say "Make sure you have a pass next time." |
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Post by snoggle on Oct 16, 2016 12:50:55 GMT
Anyone know who owns RMA11 that was on display at Stockwell garage yesterday? Web searches are proving unhelpful as much info is out of date.
TIA
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Post by RT3062 on Oct 16, 2016 16:34:18 GMT
Anyone know who owns RMA11 that was on display at Stockwell garage yesterday? Web searches are proving unhelpful as much info is out of date. TIA as far as i can tell it went from western greyhound to ensign in may last year got this from ians bus stop IAN'S BUS STOP: RMA www.countrybus.org/RMA/RMAa.html |
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Post by snoggle on Oct 16, 2016 16:59:36 GMT
Anyone know who owns RMA11 that was on display at Stockwell garage yesterday? Web searches are proving unhelpful as much info is out of date. TIA as far as i can tell it went from western greyhound to ensign in may last year got this from ians bus stop IAN'S BUS STOP: RMA www.countrybus.org/RMA/RMAa.htmlWell yes I found that. However the bus doesn't carry Ensign's name - something Ensigns always do. It also isn't listed in their list of Heritage vehicles available for hire. I therefore suspect it passed through Ensigns in their dealer capacity and not into their fleet. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2016 9:35:23 GMT
Two questions that I'm sure I can easily research but I prefer answers from my fellow forum members
A) what was the 'Green line' route that used to serve the Hammersmith bus station when it first/recently opened? (I'm sure it was a London transport service... I also know we have a 702 passing Hammersmith but I'm sure 715 rings a certain bell, no pun intended!)
I ask the above question because I saw an episode of Bottom last night, which is set in Hammersmith, and Richie talks about being sneezed on by a conductor, and referring it to the 'Green line' 😷
2) am I right in thinking that the 77C was a school day service?
I ask because we all remember 77A but to my recollection there wasn't a 77B, in peacetime at least. So I wonder if the C stood for 'child/children'?
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