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Post by OxfordCitaro on Jan 31, 2023 17:38:41 GMT
Utter dereliction yesterday on Jubilee/Met replacement. An hour's wait at Finchley Road at prime time, huge agglomeration of people trying to get to Wembley. On top of the broken down train fiasco earlier. TfL unfit for purpose. I can certainly understand your frustration but a shortage drivers may well have been a contributing factor as it is on many rail replacement services, in fact SWR have been advising people to make their own arrangements and claim it back later........ TfL are now dumping multiple closures on one weekend, there isn’t enough drivers (or buses) to go around thus RR services will be massively affected with large gaps / or routes where no operator has submitted a tender for. The hour gap at Finchley wasn’t caused by a shortage of drivers, it was due to an event at Wembley which crippled local roads - JL-1 was affected. ML-1 diverted and mostly ran on time.
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Post by enviroPB on Jan 31, 2023 21:55:02 GMT
I was wondering why there was a distinct lack of rail replacement buses in Barking over the weekend! We are getting back to the early days of TfL not giving a d*mn about accurate information (2016). On its website TfL stated LO-T would run from Barking which it didn't, and the website said the Jubilee line replacement buses would run through the night which it didn't. To think every line on the Tube map and surface transport had its own Twitter account a few years ago, where it felt like information overload sometimes to the shambolic relay of basic info we have now. I always generalise saying this without any political nuance, but 2016 was the Year of the Khan and I've only just made that connection. It’s not good innit!! The sheet I produce is the most accurate! I for one am thankful that at least someone* is distributing accurate info! Thank you Going forward, I can now match the info TfL provide with a credible source. I can't say 'rely on' just yet as you sometimes post schedules on a Saturday or Sunday, but I certainly trust your info more than TfL. *As different apps use TfL's data for their services, if the root is poisoned so too will the different branches be as well.
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Post by OxfordCitaro on Feb 1, 2023 0:05:10 GMT
It’s not good innit!! The sheet I produce is the most accurate! I for one am thankful that at least someone* is distributing accurate info! Thank you Going forward, I can now match the info TfL provide with a credible source. I can't say 'rely on' just yet as you sometimes post schedules on a Saturday or Sunday, but I certainly trust your info more than TfL. *As different apps use TfL's data for their services, if the root is poisoned so too will the different branches be as well. There's a group on Facebook which has posts about the latest RRBS news. Quite interesting. https://www.facebook.com/groups/659029252050656
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Post by Hassaan on Feb 2, 2023 0:50:22 GMT
I was wondering why there was a distinct lack of rail replacement buses in Barking over the weekend! We are getting back to the early days of TfL not giving a d*mn about accurate information (2016). On its website TfL stated LO-T would run from Barking which it didn't, and the website said the Jubilee line replacement buses would run through the night which it didn't. To think every line on the Tube map and surface transport had its own Twitter account a few years ago, where it felt like information overload sometimes to the shambolic relay of basic info we have now. I always generalise saying this without any political nuance, but 2016 was the Year of the Khan and I've only just made that connection. Not the first time that Barking area information has been wrong. The last few times the DL8 ran all day, the TfL website showed it starting from Barking, but it actually started from Dagenham East. The Piccadilly line Heathrow closures also have very inconsistent bus patterns. Sometimes the PL1 runs all the way from Gunnersbury to Heathrow, other times it is split at Osterley and the western bit is numbered PL7 (sometimes also starting at Gunnersbury but running non-stop to Osterley). The last time I covered it (September 2022), we had the PL7 version with some Gunnersbury extensions advertised, but very few of those extensions actually ran. None of the bus stop info had been updated to show the PL7, and there were no CSAs. The drivers did not know about changing at Osterley for stations beyond there, so passengers asking questions were told to wait for the correct bus, and therefore were ignoring the Osterley buses for something that didn't actually exist .
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Post by OxfordCitaro on Feb 2, 2023 22:09:38 GMT
I was wondering why there was a distinct lack of rail replacement buses in Barking over the weekend! We are getting back to the early days of TfL not giving a d*mn about accurate information (2016). On its website TfL stated LO-T would run from Barking which it didn't, and the website said the Jubilee line replacement buses would run through the night which it didn't. To think every line on the Tube map and surface transport had its own Twitter account a few years ago, where it felt like information overload sometimes to the shambolic relay of basic info we have now. I always generalise saying this without any political nuance, but 2016 was the Year of the Khan and I've only just made that connection. Not the first time that Barking area information has been wrong. The last few times the DL8 ran all day, the TfL website showed it starting from Barking, but it actually started from Dagenham East. DL-8 curtailments to Dagenham East happens on the request of the Duty Network Traffic Coordinator on the actual day, there were a few times where it was suspended between DAGE and BKG due to lack of stand space.
As far as I'm aware PL-7 to Gunnersbury has been a controversial one due to the lack of stand space at Chiswick Business Park, goes the same with PL-4 (Rayners - Gunnersbury). Rail extensions are difficult as these are mostly by request and set-down only, thus if there aren't any passengers at Osterley (for example) the bus runs dead to depot. You can also say that drivers haven't been made aware of the late night extensions and in some cases drivers aren't given any time to do them, so outright refuse. The summer months of 2022 were quite difficult as there weren't any CIAs at stops due to the agency having a payroll disagreement with TfL. Since the early 2010s LUL CSAs have not been at stops - most have no idea about the replacement bus services that serve their station, sad really!
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Post by enviro498 on Feb 3, 2023 15:53:31 GMT
Rail Operators 4/5 Feb Do you know if UL53 is actually contracted to Go-Ahead London or Arriva, or are they just subcontractors?
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Post by OxfordCitaro on Feb 3, 2023 15:59:51 GMT
Rail Operators 4/5 Feb Do you know if UL53 is actually contracted to Go-Ahead London or Arriva, or are they just subcontractors? This weekend is one of those situations where TfL have exhausted all other operators. ELL-X (UL53) is normally an Abellio contract but as seen they are quite busy this weekend especially Stratford - Romford being their ‘money maker’. So TfL has had to look elsewhere to get the route covered. Hope this answered your question.
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Post by southlondon413 on Feb 3, 2023 16:34:21 GMT
Do you know if UL53 is actually contracted to Go-Ahead London or Arriva, or are they just subcontractors? This weekend is one of those situations where TfL have exhausted all other operators. ELL-X (UL53) is normally an Abellio contract but as seen they are quite busy this weekend especially Stratford - Romford being their ‘money maker’. So TfL has had to look elsewhere to get the route covered. Hope this answered your question. Also not helped by their ban on drivers working extra duties on RRP.
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Post by OxfordCitaro on Feb 3, 2023 17:32:19 GMT
This weekend is one of those situations where TfL have exhausted all other operators. ELL-X (UL53) is normally an Abellio contract but as seen they are quite busy this weekend especially Stratford - Romford being their ‘money maker’. So TfL has had to look elsewhere to get the route covered. Hope this answered your question. Also not helped by their ban on drivers working extra duties on RRP. Abellio have used agency staff to cover all of their rail duties since early-2022. It’s hard to tell as most agency drivers are ex-Abellio and wear uniform.
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Post by gwrlner on Feb 6, 2023 15:10:57 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2023 20:05:28 GMT
Good pictures. Sullivan are also operating the route this week in the evening. Are Abellio operating it for all 11 days?
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Post by OxfordCitaro on Feb 6, 2023 21:43:51 GMT
Good pictures. Sullivan are also operating the route this week in the evening. Are Abellio operating it for all 11 days? YES!
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Post by gwrlner on Feb 7, 2023 22:50:07 GMT
Who are running the 718-720 next week? Is it the same as last time?
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Post by galwhv69 on Feb 8, 2023 14:34:33 GMT
Who are running the 718-720 next week? Is it the same as last time? 718 is a different operator, don't know about 719, 720 still Sullivans
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Post by gwrlner on Feb 8, 2023 19:06:21 GMT
oh interesting, who has the 718 this time?
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