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Metroline
Apr 22, 2019 10:53:58 GMT
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Post by george on Apr 22, 2019 10:53:58 GMT
Seems like Metroline are going to use the Westbus base in Lampton Road for the 81 Wonder why they haven’t used AH which will have space once the 209 leaves ? Also wonder why they didn’t put the 222 into UX after the 607 transferred out ? Good news for any RATP drivers transferring with the route. I think route 81 joins Metroline in July but route 209 does not leave until August. Maybe SG will be temporary for route 81? 209 might go to go ahead earlier, the reason I think this is because I doubt metroline would want to add putney bridge on the blind of those DEs
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Apr 22, 2019 11:04:54 GMT
VW1195-98 and VW1209-16 are due to move to EW in preparation for the 240's new contract which commences on the 26th of this month. Nice idea, as it should provide a continuous batch VW1295-1316 at EW for both applicable routes 240 & 292.
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Post by ADH45258 on Apr 22, 2019 11:12:02 GMT
If the 271 can now take B5LHs, I would expect the route to be allocated the intended 15reg VWHs rather than the 60reg TEHs (once released from the 43) - also reduces the number of types at HT. The 60reg TEHs could perhaps return to EW - could be suitable for the 240? Furthermore, I reckon once route 34 is lost, the VWHs could move to HT, displacing TEHs and/or VMHs, thereby reducing the variety at HT. VMHs will be released anyway when the 43's BDEs are in service, and TEHs would be released if the 271 were to gain the intended VWHs. However, there will still be a few 14reg VWHs surplus to the 4, with a few more freed up by the Blackfriars curtailment - plus there's a few examples yet to transfer from PV. Perhaps these could become allocated route W7 (plus the 143D), topped up by some 64reg from the 34, reducing types at HT to a shared G3 Mk1 VWH fleet between the 4/17/271/W7. If AC does gain some 64reg VWHs, these would only be to displace the 62reg G2 VWHs, so not all from the 34 would be needed. A few may also be kept at PB for the 125 extension to Colindale (unless the frequency is reduced).
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Apr 22, 2019 11:25:13 GMT
Furthermore, I reckon once route 34 is lost, the VWHs could move to HT, displacing TEHs and/or VMHs, thereby reducing the variety at HT. VMHs will be released anyway when the 43's BDEs are in service, and TEHs would be released if the 271 were to gain the intended VWHs. However, there will still be a few 14reg VWHs surplus to the 4, with a few more freed up by the Blackfriars curtailment - plus there's a few examples yet to transfer from PV. Perhaps these could become allocated route W7 (plus the 143D), topped up by some 64reg from the 34, reducing types at HT to a shared G3 Mk1 VWH fleet between the 4/17/271/W7. If AC does gain some 64reg VWHs, these would only be to displace the 62reg G2 VWHs, so not all from the 34 would be needed. A few may also be kept at PB for the 125 extension to Colindale (unless the frequency is reduced). I like the idea of routes 4, 17, 125, 271 & W7 being all VWH Mk 1 if Metroline have enough examples (post route 34). I spotted earlier the report that electric buses for both routes 43 & 134 could be delivered in June. I think it was initially to be May and August respectively. I still hope to ride a VMH on route 134 in August but am prepared this may be too late. Now that I am so disappointed about neither route 34 nor 102 tender being with Metroline that I am less likely to do outer north London next year. So it could now be good after all if OMEs are in service by the August Bank Holiday.
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Post by ADH45258 on Apr 22, 2019 11:37:07 GMT
VMHs will be released anyway when the 43's BDEs are in service, and TEHs would be released if the 271 were to gain the intended VWHs. However, there will still be a few 14reg VWHs surplus to the 4, with a few more freed up by the Blackfriars curtailment - plus there's a few examples yet to transfer from PV. Perhaps these could become allocated route W7 (plus the 143D), topped up by some 64reg from the 34, reducing types at HT to a shared G3 Mk1 VWH fleet between the 4/17/271/W7. If AC does gain some 64reg VWHs, these would only be to displace the 62reg G2 VWHs, so not all from the 34 would be needed. A few may also be kept at PB for the 125 extension to Colindale (unless the frequency is reduced). I like the idea of routes 4, 17, 125, 271 & W7 being all VWH Mk 1 if Metroline have enough examples (post route 34). I spotted earlier the report that electric buses for both routes 43 & 134 could be delivered in June. I think it was initially to be May and August respectively. I still hope to ride a VMH on route 134 in August but am prepared this may be too late. Now that I am so disappointed about neither route 34 nor 102 tender being with Metroline that I am less likely to do outer north London next year. So it could now be good after all if OMEs are in service by the August Bank Holiday. There is a total of 95 Mk1 G3 VWHs. The 4 currently has a PVR of 19, but will likely be reduced to around 16 when cut back to Blackfriars - so probably 18 VWHs needed. The 17 needs 20 VWHs for a PVR of 18. The 271 needs 13 VWHs for a PVR of 12. The W7 needs 19 VWHs for a PVR of 17. The 143D also needs 1 vehicle. This gives a total of 71 VWHs needed for HT, leaving another 24 vehicles. The 125 would probably need around 18-19 VWHs with the extension, unless the frequency is reduced.
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Post by COBO on Apr 22, 2019 11:38:30 GMT
Furthermore, I reckon once route 34 is lost, the VWHs could move to HT, displacing TEHs and/or VMHs, thereby reducing the variety at HT. VMHs will be released anyway when the 43's BDEs are in service, and TEHs would be released if the 271 were to gain the intended VWHs. However, there will still be a few 14reg VWHs surplus to the 4, with a few more freed up by the Blackfriars curtailment - plus there's a few examples yet to transfer from PV. Perhaps these could become allocated route W7 (plus the 143D), topped up by some 64reg from the 34, reducing types at HT to a shared G3 Mk1 VWH fleet between the 4/17/271/W7. If AC does gain some 64reg VWHs, these would only be to displace the 62reg G2 VWHs, so not all from the 34 would be needed. A few may also be kept at PB for the 125 extension to Colindale (unless the frequency is reduced). But there are no 14 reg VWHs at PV all the 14 reg VWHs have been transferred to HT.
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Post by VWH1414 on Apr 22, 2019 11:41:10 GMT
Furthermore, I reckon once route 34 is lost, the VWHs could move to HT, displacing TEHs and/or VMHs, thereby reducing the variety at HT. If AC does gain some 64reg VWHs, these would only be to displace the 62reg G2 VWHs, so not all from the 34 would be needed. A few may also be kept at PB for the 125 extension to Colindale (unless the frequency is reduced). I doubt AC will gain any, especially as the G2 VWHs have begun refurbishments (VWH1361-1363 all done, with 1364 seemingly away).
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Metroline
Apr 22, 2019 12:35:46 GMT
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Post by secretbu5dude on Apr 22, 2019 12:35:46 GMT
Just out of curiosity, don't know if someone's already asked/confirmed this.
But what's the fate of the 10.9m e200s that was accidently ordered for 393?
I'm still interested to know how they made that error 😅
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Metroline
Apr 22, 2019 13:01:23 GMT
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Post by jordzjohn123 on Apr 22, 2019 13:01:23 GMT
Just out of curiosity, don't know if someone's already asked/confirmed this. But what's the fate of the 10.9m e200s that was accidently ordered for 393? I'm still interested to know how they made that error 😅 It's been just a month but the 19reg DELs are still stored at PV I believe but Metroline haven't confirmed what route they will be going to. I can see it going to W for the 316 so it will have a part allocation with DE/DELs like at UX with the U2 and U3 having part allocations. If the 16 DELs do go to W for the 316 this will allow most of the 10reg DEs to go on the C11 and withdraw some of the 08reg DEs and more 08/58reg DEs including the ex-First ones when the 232 leaves in August
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Post by george on Apr 22, 2019 13:09:51 GMT
Just out of curiosity, don't know if someone's already asked/confirmed this. But what's the fate of the 10.9m e200s that was accidently ordered for 393? I'm still interested to know how they made that error 😅 It's been just a month but the 19reg DELs are still stored at PV I believe but Metroline haven't confirmed what route they will be going to. I can see it going to W for the 316 so it will have a part allocation with DE/DELs like at UX with the U2 and U3 having part allocations. If the 16 DELs do go to W for the 316 this will allow most of the 10reg DEs to go on the C11 and withdraw some of the 08reg DEs and more 08/58reg DEs including the ex-First ones when the 232 leaves in August Or maybe wait for the 190 result to come out
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Post by Hassaan on Apr 22, 2019 21:36:21 GMT
I get the impression that most of the 120's batch VWH2266-2284 have been fitted with an Intelligent Speed Assist system. On reaching the 20mph section of Heston Road, the available acceleration gets reduced and the top speed becomes limited to 20. It's happened on way too many buses over the last 2 weeks for it to be a coincidence, Today my bus even braked automatically to bring the speed down on entering the 20 zone, after the driver floored it on leaving the previous stop on the approach to the 20 zone
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Post by snoggle on Apr 22, 2019 21:50:11 GMT
I get the impression that most of the 120's batch VWH2266-2284 have been fitted with an Intelligent Speed Assist system. On reaching the 20mph section of Heston Road, the available acceleration gets reduced and the top speed becomes limited to 20. It's happened on way too many buses over the last 2 weeks for it to be a coincidence, Today my bus even braked automatically to bring the speed down on entering the 20 zone, after the driver floored it on leaving the previous stop on the approach to the 20 zone Didn't a poster on here recently say that TfL had switched on the system that transmits the speed limits on all bus routes? I assume the buses are responding to that.
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Post by i3lu on Apr 22, 2019 22:44:51 GMT
Furthermore, I reckon once route 34 is lost, the VWHs could move to HT, displacing TEHs and/or VMHs, thereby reducing the variety at HT. A few may also be kept at PB for the 125 extension to Colindale (unless the frequency is reduced). A new bus stop with a pedestrian crossing appeared on the Greyhound Hill where the 125 is supposed to be extended towards Colindale
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2019 23:10:36 GMT
I get the impression that most of the 120's batch VWH2266-2284 have been fitted with an Intelligent Speed Assist system. On reaching the 20mph section of Heston Road, the available acceleration gets reduced and the top speed becomes limited to 20. It's happened on way too many buses over the last 2 weeks for it to be a coincidence, Today my bus even braked automatically to bring the speed down on entering the 20 zone, after the driver floored it on leaving the previous stop on the approach to the 20 zone Didn't a poster on here recently say that TfL had switched on the system that transmits the speed limits on all bus routes? I assume the buses are responding to that. Another silly"innovation" from tfl Who claim they are Cash strapped, limiting buses will not prevent accidents. When will the son of a bus driver stop?! Glad I no longer drive in London, its just getting worse. I read somewhere that from contracts starting next year new buses will no longer have traditional mirrors but rather internal monitors.
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Post by vjaska on Apr 22, 2019 23:20:30 GMT
Didn't a poster on here recently say that TfL had switched on the system that transmits the speed limits on all bus routes? I assume the buses are responding to that. Another silly"innovation" from tfl Who claim they are Cash strapped, limiting buses will not prevent accidents. When will the son of a bus driver stop?! Glad I no longer drive in London, its just getting worse. I read somewhere that from contracts starting next year new buses will no longer have traditional mirrors but rather internal monitors. Yes, I read that myself - I believe the system is similar to the one fitted to a recent batch of First Glasgow MMC's where cameras replace mirrors.
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