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Post by Jack on Jul 15, 2013 21:40:49 GMT
458s for the Hounslow loop and Weybridge via Hounslow services? I'd really wish so! *remembers when a 444 ran the Hounslow Loop* Unfortunately, the changes mean Loop/Weybridge via Chiswick will get 10 car 455/456, as far as what I can read. A downgrade from the comfortable 450s we get at the moment. With air conditioning (in this heat!). My daily train always gets a 4 car 450 that has first class declassified, but it needs more capacity, so I would sacrifice comfort for capacity on peaks only to be honest. Would be a downgrade for Windsor ER to get 455s, but their trains always are full to bursting out of Clapham Junction at peaks, so they may also need to sacrifice comfort for capacity. There is a schedule 458 working on the hounslow loop around 6pm which calls at Hounslow, Brentford and Putney (from reading to waterloo) I use the service in the peaks and the 450's are nice and cool but prefer the sound of a 455  Most of the platforms have already been extended in preparation for the changes |
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Post by snowman on Jul 16, 2013 4:50:21 GMT
I'd really wish so! *remembers when a 444 ran the Hounslow Loop* Unfortunately, the changes mean Loop/Weybridge via Chiswick will get 10 car 455/456, as far as what I can read. A downgrade from the comfortable 450s we get at the moment. With air conditioning (in this heat!). My daily train always gets a 4 car 450 that has first class declassified, but it needs more capacity, so I would sacrifice comfort for capacity on peaks only to be honest. Would be a downgrade for Windsor ER to get 455s, but their trains always are full to bursting out of Clapham Junction at peaks, so they may also need to sacrifice comfort for capacity. There is a schedule 458 working on the hounslow loop around 6pm which calls at Hounslow, Brentford and Putney (from reading to waterloo) I use the service in the peaks and the 450's are nice and cool but prefer the sound of a 455 Most of the platforms have already been extended in preparation for the changes The 10-car scheme officially starts in December when timetable changes Work has now started on lengthening platforms on next phase, (Kingston line), plenty of work going on at Norbiton. At Kingston platform 3 is being extended over Richmond Road bridge (so far only embankment has been cleared) platform 2 can already take 10 cars and some along the line like Wimbledon are long enough already. |
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Post by l1group on Jul 16, 2013 9:23:50 GMT
I'd really wish so! *remembers when a 444 ran the Hounslow Loop* Unfortunately, the changes mean Loop/Weybridge via Chiswick will get 10 car 455/456, as far as what I can read. A downgrade from the comfortable 450s we get at the moment. With air conditioning (in this heat!). My daily train always gets a 4 car 450 that has first class declassified, but it needs more capacity, so I would sacrifice comfort for capacity on peaks only to be honest. Would be a downgrade for Windsor ER to get 455s, but their trains always are full to bursting out of Clapham Junction at peaks, so they may also need to sacrifice comfort for capacity. There is a schedule 458 working on the hounslow loop around 6pm which calls at Hounslow, Brentford and Putney (from reading to waterloo) I use the service in the peaks and the 450's are nice and cool but prefer the sound of a 455 Most of the platforms have already been extended in preparation for the changes I know about the ex-Reading peaks, but they only stop at Hounslow and Brentford, thus it doesn't mean much to me as it non-stops Chiswick. Anyhow, the platform extension at Chiswick is open already, but there aren't any 10 car trains to stop on it yet! (December) |
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Post by snowman on Aug 8, 2013 12:48:07 GMT
SWT has issued invitation to tender for new suburban emus (135 - 250 cars) Railjournal SWT emusThese are in addition to the 60 (ex-Gatwick express) class 458s and 48 class 456s |
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Post by T.R. on Aug 24, 2013 14:44:10 GMT
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Post by smiler52 on Aug 25, 2013 9:48:25 GMT
it looks like a 450 on on drugs |
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Post by l1group on Aug 25, 2013 12:47:18 GMT
Seen that a long time ago, and after initially thinking it was horrid, I now just think it's just another train, not that bad... The Dellner/450 style corridor I expect for it to be used in multiple with Class 450s if needed. At least it now has the correct livery - SWT Mainline for the Reading services didn't seem right as an outer suburban commuter service! At least it now has the outer-suburban livery, as the 450s also do outer suburban services. Once the first train is delivered, following some initial crew training, it will make a test run to Shepperton When will this happen, if anyone knows? |
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Post by thewintersoldier on Oct 25, 2015 12:08:23 GMT
It's been a while since this has been updated so since I work for the company let me update.
There are approximately 3x 458/0 left.
The majority of 458/5 are now in service, bar a few, noticeably 458501 which caught fire at Windsor earlier in the year.
All 456's are now in service. Mainly found on Guildford-Ascot services. There are some which form 10 car 456/455 combinations in the morning and evening peaks which use class 9 head codes so signallers know they must be kept away from platform 1-4 at Waterloo to avoid any 'breasts vertical' (tits up) incidents.
ASDO came into service in early October for 450/444 fleet. This enables train doors to open via coach and not by unit. For example, isleworth on the down direction now opens 7 coaches instead of 4. Other than a rather irritating noise that is played in the can every time you stop at a red signal, it works quite well!
The 707's will eventually arrive late next year for testing. They will go into the Windsor side cascading 450 for service enhancements on mainline services and 458/5 back to the Reading Road (where they belong and are best suited in my opinion)!
Platforms 1-4 will close and the WITT (Waterloo international terminal) will fully open to enable all services to "move 4 platforms across" to lengthen platforms 1-4. This is a big job which involves closing Westminster bridge road for a while. That should be fun. Eventually they would like to add another ladder outside of Waterloo to enable you to go from platforms 20-24 all the way across to the down and up slow lines. This should all be done by 2019, no matter who gets the franchise.
There are a few new services planned, extra Reading Services in the peaks and a Waterloo to Farnham via Hounslow. Don't know whether this will go via Chertsey or Ascot quite yet.
450 cab desks will need to be rebuilt to accommodate the DAS (Driver Advisory System) which will come in pending pay negotiations by 2017. Basically gives the driver an advisory speed which they should be travelling for stuff like fuel consumption on class 158/159 and to keep an even distance between trains, similar to IBUS. It has other uses too, but the plan is SWT will be able to run about 2 or 3 additional trains in the peaks. It however won't be installed in class 455 stock.
455's will be modified and traction packages will be added to prolong the use of them until beyond 2020.
I believe that's all. My fingers are tired.
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Post by thewintersoldier on Oct 31, 2015 21:06:50 GMT
  The first coaches of the 707 stock. |
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Post by thewintersoldier on Nov 10, 2015 22:00:39 GMT
Additional 458/5 changes coming up between December and February. .
The new 1935 London Waterloo-Reading will be formed of a 5-car 458.
We will shortly see the end of 4 car 455's on the "Windsor side" around the same period.
Shepperton gets two 10-458 workings; 0700 Shepperton-London Waterloo and 1843 London Waterloo-Shepperton, both via Richmond.
Woking sees a Weekday morning peak 10-458; 0641 Woking-London Waterloo. .
Alton has some 10-458 workings in the evening, 2153 London Waterloo-Alton, 2316 Alton-Woking and 0040 Woking-Alton are all formed of 10-car 458.
The 4 car variants of 458 are almost all gone. I believe the last set is in Wimbledon Park waiting to be sent up.
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Post by Tangy on Nov 11, 2015 19:36:53 GMT
The last 8 car 458/0 diagram ran in service on Sunday with 458016 and 458021 on their usual Reading route.
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Post by thewintersoldier on Nov 11, 2015 22:45:58 GMT
From mid December -
Ok, so Sunday's, a new service will run. Waterloo to Kingston via Hounslow, which requires the driver to change ends at twickenham. It will replace the current Kingston Bay services that run on Sunday's.
Hampton Courts on Sunday's will run with 2x2x2 456 units.
Sunday Suburban services that usually run 4 car 455's will run as 8 car 455's.
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Post by paulo on Nov 12, 2015 6:25:29 GMT
The last 8 car 458/0 diagram ran in service on Sunday with 458016 and 458021 on their usual Reading route. Which means what exactly. Being extended? |
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Post by snoggle on Nov 12, 2015 17:38:21 GMT
The last 8 car 458/0 diagram ran in service on Sunday with 458016 and 458021 on their usual Reading route. Which means what exactly. Being extended? I take it to mean that the last two 4 car class 458s have been taken off service to be upgraded and extended to 5 car units using the spare carriages from the class 460 Gatwick Express stock that was rendered redundant a few years ago. I think the conversion work is being done at Doncaster as I saw various old GatEx coaches and blue SWT coaches when I passed Donny a few months ago. Happy to be corrected as I'm not 100% up to speed with all things National Rail. |
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Post by thewintersoldier on Nov 12, 2015 17:56:29 GMT
The last two 458's 4 car's were on the 1320 Reading today, to my shock. As I drove a 4 car desiro which should have formed this stock by they did a stock change. Yes, Snoggle, that's correct. This means you are up to speed |
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