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Post by yunus on Sept 6, 2024 21:55:21 GMT
Is the 304 officially allocated for Diesel (E400s) or a mix of Hybrid (E400Hs & B5LHs)?
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Post by Busboy105 on Sept 6, 2024 22:42:47 GMT
Is the 304 officially allocated for Diesel (E400s) or a mix of Hybrid (E400Hs & B5LHs)? I think it's the original 104 contract which should have both
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Post by cl54 on Sept 6, 2024 23:56:47 GMT
Is the 304 officially allocated for Diesel (E400s) or a mix of Hybrid (E400Hs & B5LHs)? I think it's the original 104 contract which should have both londonbusroutes.net/ shows only diesels
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Sept 7, 2024 6:40:34 GMT
I suspect if routes do have to move out of Bexleyheath to occomdate the 99,269 and 401 it will be the 244 and maybe the 486 if more the one has to move does that also depend if the Fasttrack starts from Dartford instead of Bexleyheath temporary. As route 244 is the furthest from BX, this would be a good move to MG. Meanwhile, routes 89 and 132/486 go the furthest west, so could be effective moves to NX or MG respectively.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Sept 7, 2024 6:44:42 GMT
What is currently registered and what could be accommodated are not always the same thing. I doubt that many, if any. drivers would want to transfer from BX to MG. I believe the 108 is planned to move from MG to NX and the 188 from MG to Q, so maybe one or both of these transfers will take place around the same time the DT routes move to BX and some of the drivers for the 108/188 will remain at MG and work the routes moving in. They could go further and arrange with operators for changes to routes 45 & 118 to occur the same day as the Bexleyheath changes. Then the same reshuffle could include route 355 moving to SW and route 118 withdrawn.
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Post by cl54 on Sept 7, 2024 7:27:03 GMT
I suspect if routes do have to move out of Bexleyheath to occomdate the 99,269 and 401 it will be the 244 and maybe the 486 if more the one has to move does that also depend if the Fasttrack starts from Dartford instead of Bexleyheath temporary. As route 244 is the furthest from BX, this would be a good move to MG. Meanwhile, routes 89 and 132/486 go the furthest west, so could be effective moves to NX or MG respectively. When Go Ahead took over the 244 it was intended to run it from MG. In a late change it was allocated to BX. The 132 will not be moving. It needs the pantograph charger on the BX forecourt. The traffic congestion around the Blackwall Tunnel and the works for the new Silvertown Tunnels cause delays for the MG buses.
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Post by TB123 on Sept 7, 2024 7:33:05 GMT
As route 244 is the furthest from BX, this would be a good move to MG. Meanwhile, routes 89 and 132/486 go the furthest west, so could be effective moves to NX or MG respectively. When Go Ahead took over the 244 it was intended to run it from MG. In a late change it was allocated to BX. The 132 will not be moving. It needs the pantograph charger on the BX forecourt. The traffic congestion around the Blackwall Tunnel and the works for the new Silvertown Tunnels cause delays for the MG buses. That surprises me, given that Go Ahead/London Central/Bexleybus took over the 244 in 1988 and MG didn’t open until 2017
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Post by bustavane on Sept 7, 2024 7:37:33 GMT
As route 244 is the furthest from BX, this would be a good move to MG. Meanwhile, routes 89 and 132/486 go the furthest west, so could be effective moves to NX or MG respectively. When Go Ahead took over the 244 it was intended to run it from MG. In a late change it was allocated to BX. The 244 was at GAL long before MG opened; do you mean it should have gone to MG when BV closed? The 132 will not be moving. It needs the pantograph charger on the BX forecourt. The traffic congestion around the Blackwall Tunnel and the works for the new Silvertown Tunnels cause delays for the MG buses. Running the 132 from MG might have solved the multitude of short turns at Blackheath, but it was obviously not on the cards.
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Post by greenboy on Sept 7, 2024 7:37:38 GMT
As route 244 is the furthest from BX, this would be a good move to MG. Meanwhile, routes 89 and 132/486 go the furthest west, so could be effective moves to NX or MG respectively. When Go Ahead took over the 244 it was intended to run it from MG. In a late change it was allocated to BX. The 132 will not be moving. It needs the pantograph charger on the BX forecourt. The traffic congestion around the Blackwall Tunnel and the works for the new Silvertown Tunnels cause delays for the MG buses. The 132 won't be moving but if it needed to be moved the pantograph buses could be used on the 99,269 or 401 instead.
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Post by southlondon413 on Sept 7, 2024 8:24:34 GMT
As route 244 is the furthest from BX, this would be a good move to MG. Meanwhile, routes 89 and 132/486 go the furthest west, so could be effective moves to NX or MG respectively. When Go Ahead took over the 244 it was intended to run it from MG. In a late change it was allocated to BX. The 132 will not be moving. It needs the pantograph charger on the BX forecourt. The traffic congestion around the Blackwall Tunnel and the works for the new Silvertown Tunnels cause delays for the MG buses. The more you post here the more it becomes obvious that you’re a few screws short.
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Post by ! ALEED on Sept 7, 2024 9:59:18 GMT
Is the 304 officially allocated for Diesel (E400s) or a mix of Hybrid (E400Hs & B5LHs)? I believe it's allocated some E400 Tridents and some E400Hs (YX13s or SN61s) Buses move around between RR and DS all the time, and some school routes allocated G3s end up using LTs for easier boarding and dismissal, hence why the Gemini 3s end up on other routes like the 304 and 104, whilst the 5 might use some YW17s from the 115, or the original buses allocated to the 304.
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Post by DW221 on Sept 7, 2024 10:36:11 GMT
Is the 304 officially allocated for Diesel (E400s) or a mix of Hybrid (E400Hs & B5LHs)? I believe it's allocated some E400 Tridents and some E400Hs (YX13s or SN61s) Buses move around between RR and DS all the time, and some school routes allocated G3s end up using LTs for easier boarding and dismissal, hence why the Gemini 3s end up on other routes like the 304 and 104, whilst the 5 might use some YW17s from the 115, or the original buses allocated to the 304. Nit pick but SN61s are E40Ds not Tridents mate
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Post by WH241 on Sept 7, 2024 10:47:19 GMT
Is the 304 officially allocated for Diesel (E400s) or a mix of Hybrid (E400Hs & B5LHs)? Was it ever confirmed what happened with the 104 / 304 tenders?
The 104 / 304 started a tender in 2018 and it not currently showing in the tender programme 25/26. The 304 started in May 2022 and has been terminated at 3 years so assumed started a separate tender when the route started. Is is safe to assume the 104 also started a revised tender in 2022?
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Post by Busboy105 on Sept 7, 2024 10:47:31 GMT
I think it's the original 104 contract which should have both londonbusroutes.net/ shows only diesels That's odd
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Post by ! ALEED on Sept 7, 2024 11:02:51 GMT
I believe it's allocated some E400 Tridents and some E400Hs (YX13s or SN61s) Buses move around between RR and DS all the time, and some school routes allocated G3s end up using LTs for easier boarding and dismissal, hence why the Gemini 3s end up on other routes like the 304 and 104, whilst the 5 might use some YW17s from the 115, or the original buses allocated to the 304. Nit pick but SN61s are E40Ds not Tridents mate Was talking about the SN61 E400Hs.
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