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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Sept 29, 2024 20:40:59 GMT
LOTS confirms GAL order for BD11s on routes 101, 321, 333, 473 & SL4. Cue all the past speculation about 101 333 473… interestingly no order for 129 ethier. View AttachmentThanks for sharing this mate. I do wonder what the SL7 will end up getting? It's only been 4 days so you'll probably be waiting a while to find out. |
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Post by yunus on Sept 29, 2024 20:43:00 GMT
Thanks for sharing this mate. I do wonder what the SL7 will end up getting? It's only been 4 days so you'll probably be waiting a while to find out. Yeah spot on there but I believe it will need to get a bus with higher range due to the long distance it travels? |
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Post by PGAT on Sept 29, 2024 20:44:30 GMT
If we assume 129 does get the BD11s then that is around 100 vehicles as speculated
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Sept 29, 2024 20:44:56 GMT
It's only been 4 days so you'll probably be waiting a while to find out. Yeah spot on there but I believe it will need to get a bus with higher range due to the long distance it travels? Shouldn't be too hard, the E400 EV and BD11 will have the necessary range. |
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Post by DW221 on Sept 29, 2024 20:50:21 GMT
LOTS confirms GAL order for BD11s on routes 101, 321, 333, 473 & SL4. Cue all the past speculation about 101 333 473… interestingly no order for 129 ethier. View AttachmentThanks for sharing this mate. I do wonder what the SL7 will end up getting? Overall time will tell… SL7 might get them later down the line however no rush needed obviously since its a retainment… canteen talk recently about 151 getting electroliners eventually so wont be surprised if that happens ethier since it wasnt included in this bulk order. No problem ethier mate |
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Post by southlondonbus on Sept 29, 2024 20:54:46 GMT
LOTS confirms GAL order for BD11s on routes 101, 321, 333, 473 & SL4. Cue all the past speculation about 101 333 473… interestingly no order for 129 ethier. View AttachmentI’m conflicted. So glad that the 333 isn’t contributing to the Ee snoozefest which is overtaking Tooting, but these new vehicles are really ugly  Strangely I could have sworn an order was confirmed for Ee's for the 333 with numbers allocated. I'm wondering if Ees were ordered but will be sent to AL with the ones from the 151 from the 131 and 280 to join the ones on the 57. |
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Post by ! ALEED on Sept 29, 2024 21:11:35 GMT
Thought the 473 failed the Ee test hence why Ee's were not ordered for the route because they were too long.
Not sure why the 101 had to wait so long when there's been much longer buses on the route but I am happy that buses have finally been confirmed for it.
If the 473 is now able to take BD11s, assuming it can turn better, then could this be a potential candidate for the 131 and 151?
Unless Go Ahead are still planning to wait for the E400 EV to release, I don't see what other option they have given they don't want to go for the Electroliner..
EDIT: I assume that as soon as BD11s start turning up at RR and DS, type training will commence and they will instantly get the E400s and Gemini 2s out potentially for the 99, 269 and 401.
Makes sense if the WVNs, WVLs and E's go to BX later during the year anyway given that both garages are electrified, and installing additional chargers doesn't take that much time.
Now all Go Ahead has left to do is to quickly get the intended electrics for the 376 from NP and give the SEe's to the 325, where they should be!
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Sept 29, 2024 21:15:01 GMT
Thought the 473 failed the Ee test hence why Ee's were not ordered for the route because they were too long. Not sure why the 101 had to wait so long when there's been much longer buses on the route but I am happy that buses have finally been confirmed for it. If the 473 is now able to take BD11s, assuming it can turn better, then could this be a potential candidate for the 131 and 151? Unless Go Ahead are still planning to wait for the E400 EV to release, I don't see what other option they have given they don't want to go for the Electroliner.. I can't see where the 473 would have had a length restriction seeing as LTs traverse LCY all the time and the rest of the route is pretty straight. |
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Post by ! ALEED on Sept 29, 2024 21:15:44 GMT
Thought the 473 failed the Ee test hence why Ee's were not ordered for the route because they were too long. Not sure why the 101 had to wait so long when there's been much longer buses on the route but I am happy that buses have finally been confirmed for it. If the 473 is now able to take BD11s, assuming it can turn better, then could this be a potential candidate for the 131 and 151? Unless Go Ahead are still planning to wait for the E400 EV to release, I don't see what other option they have given they don't want to go for the Electroliner.. I can't see where the 473 would have had a length restriction seeing as LTs traverse LCY all the time and the rest of the route is pretty straight. But I thought that was the reason why Ee's were never ordered for it, otherwise why else did it not get Ee's with the 262 when BYD and ADL were clearly taking orders, e.g. Metroline ordering more BDEs... |
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Sept 29, 2024 21:17:03 GMT
I can't see where the 473 would have had a length restriction seeing as LTs traverse LCY all the time and the rest of the route is pretty straight. But I thought that was the reason why Ee's were never ordered for it, otherwise why else did it not get Ee's with the 262 when BYD and ADL were clearly taking orders, e.g. Metroline ordering more BDEs... They probably had their reasons to split the order for whatever reason, but I certainly can't think of any length restriction the 473 might have otherwise. |
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Post by adl on Sept 29, 2024 21:19:43 GMT
I can't see where the 473 would have had a length restriction seeing as LTs traverse LCY all the time and the rest of the route is pretty straight. But I thought that was the reason why Ee's were never ordered for it, otherwise why else did it not get Ee's with the 262 when BYD and ADL were clearly taking orders, e.g. Metroline ordering more BDEs... There actually has not been any confirmation of the 473 failing a route test its only been speculated and the BD11s are the same length as the Ee's. Route 333 was confirmed to get EE's initially by LOTS but seems to have since changed to BDs, I do wonder if the Metroline order may eventually get changed to something else as I'm also pretty sure the 321 was confirmed to be EE's somewhere too, but both has since changed to BDs. |
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Post by WH241 on Sept 29, 2024 21:22:03 GMT
Thought the 473 failed the Ee test hence why Ee's were not ordered for the route because they were too long. Not sure why the 101 had to wait so long when there's been much longer buses on the route but I am happy that buses have finally been confirmed for it. If the 473 is now able to take BD11s, assuming it can turn better, then could this be a potential candidate for the 131 and 151? Unless Go Ahead are still planning to wait for the E400 EV to release, I don't see what other option they have given they don't want to go for the Electroliner.. EDIT: I assume that as soon as BD11s start turning up at RR and DS, type training will commence and they will instantly get the E400s and Gemini 2s out potentially for the 99, 269 and 401. Makes sense if the WVNs, WVLs and E's go to BX later during the year anyway given that both garages are electrified, and installing additional chargers doesn't take that much time. Now all Go Ahead has left to do is to quickly get the intended electrics for the 376 from NP and give the SEe's to the 325, where they should be! To me it seems there is an issue somewhere along the 473 as there has not even been a single odd working of the 262 batch of Ee’s. I know that’s not 100% proven but that’s my opinion. I am guessing there could be issues around City Airport or North Woolwich as all other parts of the route duplicate the 262. I hope the 101 and 473 batch are delivered first especially as the SL4 are the lowest priority despite one bus being seen with a possible Super Loop livery. |
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Post by DE20106 on Sept 29, 2024 22:09:48 GMT
LOTS confirms GAL order for BD11s on routes 101, 321, 333, 473 & SL4. Cue all the past speculation about 101 333 473… interestingly no order for 129 ethier. View AttachmentSpeculation however remains on where the 333 batch will be initially allocated given SW's not yet future proofed....unless at least one's allocated there and juiced up by a remote charger like with Peckham's SEe260 Never mind the 333 it’s the 131 which is noticeably absent from this list that I’m wondering about, which has just started its new contract with nothing confirmed. Maybe there is an issue with the Tooting Broadway stand after all which is preventing those longer length deckers. Looking forward to seeing these on the 473 too, one of my favourite routes, with a better turning circle these should be able to navigate LCY forecourt just fine  |
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Post by DW221 on Sept 29, 2024 22:14:04 GMT
Speculation however remains on where the 333 batch will be initially allocated given SW's not yet future proofed....unless at least one's allocated there and juiced up by a remote charger like with Peckham's SEe260 Never mind the 333 it’s the 131 which is noticeably absent from this list that I’m wondering about, which has just started its new contract with nothing confirmed. Maybe there is an issue with the Tooting Broadway stand after all which is preventing those longer length deckers. Looking forward to seeing these on the 473 too, one of my favourite routes, with a better turning circle these should be able to navigate LCY forecourt just fine 473 is a decent route although wont be the same without the WVNs. (Still prefered the 262 with them tbh) But hopefully theyll come south temporarily to kick start the 99/269/401 in January along with the 101s Tridentviros! |
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Post by vjaska on Sept 29, 2024 22:35:50 GMT
But I thought that was the reason why Ee's were never ordered for it, otherwise why else did it not get Ee's with the 262 when BYD and ADL were clearly taking orders, e.g. Metroline ordering more BDEs... There actually has not been any confirmation of the 473 failing a route test its only been speculated and the BD11s are the same length as the Ee's. Route 333 was confirmed to get EE's initially by LOTS but seems to have since changed to BDs, I do wonder if the Metroline order may eventually get changed to something else as I'm also pretty sure the 321 was confirmed to be EE's somewhere too, but both has since changed to BDs. The 321 never had any confirmation of any type until now, was only the 333 from memory. Yeah, I'm confused where the speculation around length came from given the 473 has used Omnicity DD's before with their overhang and almost similar length so couldn't foresee much issue here. Least we got some confirmation now one way or the other |
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