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Post by galwhv69 on Jan 31, 2020 16:01:51 GMT
Other StreetLites are smooth and don't have this issue. They are rapid however, as can be proven along the North Circular. You might have some fast Streetlite batches but definitely not smooth!
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Post by rmz19 on Jan 31, 2020 16:20:06 GMT
Other StreetLites are smooth and don't have this issue. They are rapid however, as can be proven along the North Circular. You might have some fast Streetlite batches but definitely not smooth! It's been a while since I rode a StreetLite other than the 232 ones but If I recall correctly they were smooth and didn't have this issue.
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Post by vjaska on Jan 31, 2020 16:34:37 GMT
Other StreetLites are smooth and don't have this issue. They are rapid however, as can be proven along the North Circular. You might have some fast Streetlite batches but definitely not smooth! From my own experience, Streetlites are generally smooth.
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Post by greenboy on Jan 31, 2020 16:43:19 GMT
There were two instances I used the 232 between New Southgate and Brent Cross, the first being a few weeks ago and the second earlier today. While I like the StreetLites in general, I find the ones on the 232 to be very shaky while breaking and accelerating. I thought it may have been down to poor driving the first time round, but today this was also the case and even more so. Additionally, during the first instance I overheard a discussion between the driver and Centrecomm about warning lights lighting up on the dashboard showing an issue with the rear left tyre of some sort, Centrecomm then replied saying it's fine and the driver can continue. Regarding the shakiness I believe it might be down to this batch of StreetLites themselves, but does anyone know why this is the case? Other StreetLites are smooth and don't have this issue. They are rapid however, as can be proven along the North Circular. Surely it would have been the engineers at the garage the driver would have been talking to about warning lights on the dashboard rather than Centrecomm.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2020 17:27:36 GMT
You might have some fast Streetlite batches but definitely not smooth! From my own experience, Streetlites are generally smooth. LOL!!! Have never driven a smooth WS. Very jerky and poo brakes. Impossible to brake smoothly.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2020 17:31:11 GMT
There were two instances I used the 232 between New Southgate and Brent Cross, the first being a few weeks ago and the second earlier today. While I like the StreetLites in general, I find the ones on the 232 to be very shaky while breaking and accelerating. I thought it may have been down to poor driving the first time round, but today this was also the case and even more so. Additionally, during the first instance I overheard a discussion between the driver and Centrecomm about warning lights lighting up on the dashboard showing an issue with the rear left tyre of some sort, Centrecomm then replied saying it's fine and the driver can continue. Regarding the shakiness I believe it might be down to this batch of StreetLites themselves, but does anyone know why this is the case? Other StreetLites are smooth and don't have this issue. They are rapid however, as can be proven along the North Circular. Surely it would have been the engineers at the garage the driver would have been talking to about warning lights on the dashboard rather than Centrecomm. Probably talking to iBus
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Post by rmz19 on Jan 31, 2020 17:54:34 GMT
There were two instances I used the 232 between New Southgate and Brent Cross, the first being a few weeks ago and the second earlier today. While I like the StreetLites in general, I find the ones on the 232 to be very shaky while breaking and accelerating. I thought it may have been down to poor driving the first time round, but today this was also the case and even more so. Additionally, during the first instance I overheard a discussion between the driver and Centrecomm about warning lights lighting up on the dashboard showing an issue with the rear left tyre of some sort, Centrecomm then replied saying it's fine and the driver can continue. Regarding the shakiness I believe it might be down to this batch of StreetLites themselves, but does anyone know why this is the case? Other StreetLites are smooth and don't have this issue. They are rapid however, as can be proven along the North Circular. Surely it would have been the engineers at the garage the driver would have been talking to about warning lights on the dashboard rather than Centrecomm. Yes that may have been the case indeed. Not really familiar with this matter.
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Post by vjaska on Jan 31, 2020 22:12:34 GMT
From my own experience, Streetlites are generally smooth. LOL!!! Have never driven a smooth WS. Very jerky and sh*t brakes. Impossible to brake smoothly. Ok, well agree to disagree then because I've been on quite a few that have been smooth - both Euro V & VI examples as well.
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Post by busaholic on Jan 31, 2020 23:43:50 GMT
I do not think this 2 minutes as a "written rule" I have searched everywhere for it and could not find it. There was something some years ago about idling bus engines not allowed more than 2 minutes, but cannot find that either. Section 3a www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2002/3113/schedule/19/part/I/madeJust read the definition of a bus stop clearway ... Going to check a number of them to see how many meet the required definition ... as not all bus stops are clear ways if I am reading it correctly. No idea at mo, how many of them meet the requirements, but think it will be quite high. Definition of a bus stop road markings in the highway code meets the definition of a bus stop clearway. PS Have not and do not intend reading all the various amendments of traffic sign regulations to see if it has changed since I've only been doing a lot of reading on the subject because I was issued with a parking ticket three weeks ago for 'parking on a bus stop or stand', which I appealed against though I admitted my car had entered the extremely large box area painted by perhaps six inches at the rear extremity of the box while I picked up an urgent prescription at a chemist nearby. I have a blue badge, which of course doesn't allow me to do this either, but my apologies and pleading were to no avail, so I've got to pay up. However, I think I now know as much as I want to know on the subject, and possibly a little bit more, as the council thoughtfully rubbed my nose in it by sending all the relevant (and some, frankly, irrelevant) photocopies of every diagram relating to bus stops and stands, As I said above somewhere, the only legal difference between the two relates to what the bus driver is allowed to do when there. The one I 'parked' in is labelled as a bus stand, even though it has never been used as such and, indeed, couldn't be either as a bus would find it both physically impossible to turn there and would have a journey of about two miles minimum to reappear on the other side of the road due to curious road layouts adopted over the years.
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Post by londonbusboy on Feb 1, 2020 11:52:54 GMT
LOL!!! Have never driven a smooth WS. Very jerky and sh*t brakes. Impossible to brake smoothly. Ok, well agree to disagree then because I've been on quite a few that have been smooth - both Euro V & VI examples as well. WS128 at go ahead is jerky it has a habit of jolting violently into gear. When i pulled away from Shortlands Stn it jolted the whole way down to the lights lol. The brakes are rubbish on them i pray no traffic lights change.
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Post by Pilot on Feb 1, 2020 12:17:15 GMT
Ok, well agree to disagree then because I've been on quite a few that have been smooth - both Euro V & VI examples as well. WS128 at go ahead is jerky it has a habit of jolting violently into gear. When i pulled away from Shortlands Stn it jolted the whole way down to the lights lol. The brakes are rubbish on them i pray no traffic lights change. Product of saving running costs. Good ol training buses drive better than 'brand new' state of the 'art' single decks nowdays.
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Post by rmz19 on Feb 1, 2020 12:33:18 GMT
WS128 at go ahead is jerky it has a habit of jolting violently into gear. When i pulled away from Shortlands Stn it jolted the whole way down to the lights lol. The brakes are rubbish on them i pray no traffic lights change. Product of saving running costs. Good ol training buses drive better than 'brand new' state of the 'art' single decks nowdays. This is ridiculous. For a route like the 232, having buses brake like that at high speed is potentially dangerous. There were many instances the driver would brake at high speed and everyone jolted back and forth due to the terrible brakes (if this indeed is the case), it would be even more dangerous for those standing up. If buses are being built to these terrible standards then they shouldn't be commissioned at all, it's just unacceptable.
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Post by WSD3 on Feb 1, 2020 13:17:57 GMT
Now we are in the last month of swing 69 plates, we may see the the first 20 plates going on the 323.
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Post by londonbusboy on Feb 1, 2020 15:08:11 GMT
Product of saving running costs. Good ol training buses drive better than 'brand new' state of the 'art' single decks nowdays. This is ridiculous. For a route like the 232, having buses brake like that at high speed is potentially dangerous. There were many instances the driver would brake at high speed and everyone jolted back and forth due to the terrible brakes (if this indeed is the case), it would be even more dangerous for those standing up. If buses are being built to these terrible standards then they shouldn't be commissioned at all, it's just unacceptable. I find the voith retarder on them to be quite harsh and if you lift your foot off the accelerator ever so slightly to try and ease the harshness you lose the retarder
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Post by george on Feb 1, 2020 23:43:24 GMT
First of all apologises if this is a silly question but why is it that loads of conventionals go on the the 87 late evening before going out on the N87 but the same doesn't happen with the 11 despite the N11 now using mainly conventionals, the N11 isn't worked with any other routes so the only thing I can think of is drivers start later for the N11?
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