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Post by trickymicky on Feb 2, 2020 7:31:41 GMT
First of all apologises if this is a silly question but why is it that loads of conventionals go on the the 87 late evening before going out on the N87 but the same doesn't happen with the 11 despite the N11 now using mainly conventionals, the N11 isn't worked with any other routes so the only thing I can think of is drivers start later for the N11? Think the first clock on is 20:00 and there's only three duties that can possibly keep there bus from day shift but I think most the drivers go back to Stockwell for there break so it's whatever is plated for them most the night shift 87 N87 take a bus from the garage too did anyone see that whv190 on the day 11 then turn in to a N136 😂
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Post by YY13VKP on Feb 2, 2020 10:04:54 GMT
The current stand arrangements at Tooting Broadway desperately needs to be amended IMO. The increase in the amount of buses there at one time has made it far too crowded on a regular basis, and in some cases buses end up blocking Longmead Road. Buses also encounter some extremely tight turns just to get onto one of the stands. It just isn't feasible to keep it as it is for much longer.
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Post by george on Feb 2, 2020 10:24:32 GMT
The current stand arrangements at Tooting Broadway desperately needs to be amended IMO. The increase in the amount of buses there at one time has made it far too crowded on a regular basis, and in some cases buses end up blocking Longmead Road. Buses also encounter some extremely tight turns just to get onto one of the stands. It just isn't feasible to keep it as it is for much longer. Same for the 344 stand in Clapham Junction there isn't enough space leaving buses to be left with there hazards on - on St Johns Hill. I wonder if the 344 and 49 could swap stands?
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Post by M1104 on Feb 2, 2020 11:35:34 GMT
The current stand arrangements at Tooting Broadway desperately needs to be amended IMO. The increase in the amount of buses there at one time has made it far too crowded on a regular basis, and in some cases buses end up blocking Longmead Road. Buses also encounter some extremely tight turns just to get onto one of the stands. It just isn't feasible to keep it as it is for much longer. Same for the 344 stand in Clapham Junction there isn't enough space leaving buses to be left with there hazards on - on St Johns Hill. I wonder if the 344 and 49 could swap stands? The same problem would still exist as I've often seen a whole stack of 49s on their bus stand when passing there on the 77.
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Post by M1104 on Feb 2, 2020 11:48:24 GMT
The current stand arrangements at Tooting Broadway desperately needs to be amended IMO. The increase in the amount of buses there at one time has made it far too crowded on a regular basis, and in some cases buses end up blocking Longmead Road. Buses also encounter some extremely tight turns just to get onto one of the stands. It just isn't feasible to keep it as it is for much longer. Part of the solution could be to extend the 333 to Garratt Lane where buses can stand on the Wimbledon Road bus stand, returning via Blackshaw Road¹ and Fountain Road to Garrate Lane for the return journey towards Elephant and Castle. I don't know if there's any sort of bus stand restriction at the Mitre, else the 131 could be extended there. ¹ - the G1 bus stop along that road could also be for the northbound 333
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Post by WSD3 on Feb 2, 2020 12:00:27 GMT
The current stand arrangements at Tooting Broadway desperately needs to be amended IMO. The increase in the amount of buses there at one time has made it far too crowded on a regular basis, and in some cases buses end up blocking Longmead Road. Buses also encounter some extremely tight turns just to get onto one of the stands. It just isn't feasible to keep it as it is for much longer. Part of the solution could be to extend the 333 to Garratt Lane where buses can stand on the Wimbledon Road bus stand, returning via Blackshaw Road¹ and Fountain Road to Garrate Lane for the return journey towards Elephant and Castle. I don't know if there's any sort of bus stand restriction at the Mitre, else the 131 could be extended there. ¹ - the G1 bus stop along that road could also be for the northbound 333 with the 44 going to tooting Broadway
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Post by vjaska on Feb 2, 2020 12:39:26 GMT
Part of the solution could be to extend the 333 to Garratt Lane where buses can stand on the Wimbledon Road bus stand, returning via Blackshaw Road¹ and Fountain Road to Garrate Lane for the return journey towards Elephant and Castle. I don't know if there's any sort of bus stand restriction at the Mitre, else the 131 could be extended there. ¹ - the G1 bus stop along that road could also be for the northbound 333 with the 44 going to tooting Broadway The 44 already serves Tooting Broadway on its way to Tooting Station.
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Post by vjaska on Feb 2, 2020 12:41:04 GMT
The current stand arrangements at Tooting Broadway desperately needs to be amended IMO. The increase in the amount of buses there at one time has made it far too crowded on a regular basis, and in some cases buses end up blocking Longmead Road. Buses also encounter some extremely tight turns just to get onto one of the stands. It just isn't feasible to keep it as it is for much longer. Part of the solution could be to extend the 333 to Garratt Lane where buses can stand on the Wimbledon Road bus stand, returning via Blackshaw Road¹ and Fountain Road to Garrate Lane for the return journey towards Elephant and Castle. I don't know if there's any sort of bus stand restriction at the Mitre, else the 131 could be extended there. ¹ - the G1 bus stop along that road could also be for the northbound 333 Isn't the Tooting Mitre stand quite small?
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Post by M1104 on Feb 2, 2020 13:24:51 GMT
Part of the solution could be to extend the 333 to Garratt Lane where buses can stand on the Wimbledon Road bus stand, returning via Blackshaw Road¹ and Fountain Road to Garrate Lane for the return journey towards Elephant and Castle. I don't know if there's any sort of bus stand restriction at the Mitre, else the 131 could be extended there. ¹ - the G1 bus stop along that road could also be for the northbound 333 Isn't the Tooting Mitre stand quite small? Its bay can accommodate three buses which should be sufficient for the 131
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Post by M1104 on Feb 2, 2020 13:36:32 GMT
Part of the solution could be to extend the 333 to Garratt Lane where buses can stand on the Wimbledon Road bus stand, returning via Blackshaw Road¹ and Fountain Road to Garrate Lane for the return journey towards Elephant and Castle. I don't know if there's any sort of bus stand restriction at the Mitre, else the 131 could be extended there. ¹ - the G1 bus stop along that road could also be for the northbound 333 with the 44 going to tooting Broadway That would then cancel out the solution of overcrowding, hence the 333 idea.
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Post by greenboy on Feb 2, 2020 16:28:38 GMT
The current stand arrangements at Tooting Broadway desperately needs to be amended IMO. The increase in the amount of buses there at one time has made it far too crowded on a regular basis, and in some cases buses end up blocking Longmead Road. Buses also encounter some extremely tight turns just to get onto one of the stands. It just isn't feasible to keep it as it is for much longer. That stand has always been problematical and generates complaints from residents, the obvious solution would be the 131 to the Mitre stand as has been suggested unless there is some restriction there now?
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Post by george on Feb 2, 2020 16:31:31 GMT
Same for the 344 stand in Clapham Junction there isn't enough space leaving buses to be left with there hazards on - on St Johns Hill. I wonder if the 344 and 49 could swap stands? The same problem would still exist as I've often seen a whole stack of 49s on their bus stand when passing there on the 77. oh ok fair enough thought that would be better because there is more space, that's really the only feasible change I can think of really.
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Post by ​galwhv69 on Feb 2, 2020 19:17:05 GMT
Same for the 344 stand in Clapham Junction there isn't enough space leaving buses to be left with there hazards on - on St Johns Hill. I wonder if the 344 and 49 could swap stands? The same problem would still exist as I've often seen a whole stack of 49s on their bus stand when passing there on the 77. Can the stand on Boutflower Road not be extended, seems like it could fit another 2 buses
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Post by M1104 on Feb 2, 2020 21:00:49 GMT
The same problem would still exist as I've often seen a whole stack of 49s on their bus stand when passing there on the 77. Can the stand on Boutflower Road not be extended, seems like it could fit another 2 buses I believe the opposite has actually happened as there was a separate bus stand bay further along the road which is now a regular car parking space. Mind you I don't know how long ago that happened as I haven't driven the 337 for the best part of twenty years. Also at the time the 239 used to stand there as well, which may be why there is now one less space for buses.
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Post by george on Feb 2, 2020 21:39:49 GMT
Can the stand on Boutflower Road not be extended, seems like it could fit another 2 buses I believe the opposite has actually happened as there was a separate bus stand bay further along the road which is now a regular car parking space. Mind you I don't know how long ago that happened as I haven't driven the 337 for the best part of twenty years. Also at the time the 239 used to stand there as well, which may be why there is one less space for buses. Guessing you was at AV when you drove the route?
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