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Post by SILENCED on Jul 1, 2020 10:48:31 GMT
One per person is pretty pointless for single wear masks! I'm sure plenty of people reuse their single wear masks as people don't know which types are reusable and which aren't. Looking at the state of some masks I don't doubt you ....
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Post by vjaska on Jul 1, 2020 11:50:43 GMT
This is probably more about bus drivers refusing travel for people not wearing face masks. A lot of people don't wear them correctly anyway. I've seen this happen. Lots of people either not wearing masks or not properly covering their nose and mouth. It irritates me. I really do think drivers should refuse entry if the rules aren't followed. Otherwise it's not a rule. It's just guidance or a 'request' as Snowman said. Drivers were advised when buses went back to front door boarding not to refuse people travel and TBF, I agree with that as it shouldn't be drivers job to police who is wearing a mask. I believe there was actually meant to be officials on board buses policing this but clearly that never happened.
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Post by joefrombow on Jul 1, 2020 13:24:36 GMT
I've seen this happen. Lots of people either not wearing masks or not properly covering their nose and mouth. It irritates me. I really do think drivers should refuse entry if the rules aren't followed. Otherwise it's not a rule. It's just guidance or a 'request' as Snowman said. Drivers were advised when buses went back to front door boarding not to refuse people travel and TBF, I agree with that as it shouldn't be drivers job to police who is wearing a mask. I believe there was actually meant to be officials on board buses policing this but clearly that never happened. At the end of the day some people have medical conditions etc just because they look "normal" doesn't mean they don't have underlying conditions etc so in theory you can't police everyone who doesn't have one as long as most people are wearing them from what I have seen then surely that's a good thing ? One thing I do seem to notice though is near enough every bus I see has a "BUS FULL" sign in when empty or with very few passengers on , surely its time for widespread roll out of LED blinds I think , First in Essex now has a thing on the app that tells you were the bus is in real time and how many people are on board , about time we embrace the technology here in London and roll something out like this .
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Post by barrypotter on Jul 1, 2020 13:49:47 GMT
Drivers were advised when buses went back to front door boarding not to refuse people travel and TBF, I agree with that as it shouldn't be drivers job to police who is wearing a mask. I believe there was actually meant to be officials on board buses policing this but clearly that never happened. At the end of the day some people have medical conditions etc just because they look "normal" doesn't mean they don't have underlying conditions etc so in theory you can't police everyone who doesn't have one as long as most people are wearing them from what I have seen then surely that's a good thing ? One thing I do seem to notice though is near enough every bus I see has a "BUS FULL" sign in when empty or with very few passengers on , surely its time for widespread roll out of LED blinds I think , First in Essex now has a thing on the app that tells you were the bus is in real time and how many people are on board , about time we embrace the technology here in London and roll something out like this . How does this technology work? I can see that everyone who gets on the bus can be counted and the ticket machine can send that information, but what about the people who are getting off? Is there a button to press for every unboarder?
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Post by TB123 on Jul 1, 2020 14:06:13 GMT
At the end of the day some people have medical conditions etc just because they look "normal" doesn't mean they don't have underlying conditions etc so in theory you can't police everyone who doesn't have one as long as most people are wearing them from what I have seen then surely that's a good thing ? One thing I do seem to notice though is near enough every bus I see has a "BUS FULL" sign in when empty or with very few passengers on , surely its time for widespread roll out of LED blinds I think , First in Essex now has a thing on the app that tells you were the bus is in real time and how many people are on board , about time we embrace the technology here in London and roll something out like this . How does this technology work? I can see that everyone who gets on the bus can be counted and the ticket machine can send that information, but what about the people who are getting off? Is there a button to press for every unboarder? Yes, it records each ticket issued, or smart card, mobile or paper ticket QR code validation as an individual passenger onboard. When they alight, the driver will press the alight button the machine or go to settings and press alight multiple. A very useful bit of kit which I suspect will be a permanent addition as it gives a more accurate picture of travel patterns.
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Post by foxhat on Jul 1, 2020 15:35:07 GMT
Drivers were advised when buses went back to front door boarding not to refuse people travel and TBF, I agree with that as it shouldn't be drivers job to police who is wearing a mask. I believe there was actually meant to be officials on board buses policing this but clearly that never happened. At the end of the day some people have medical conditions etc just because they look "normal" doesn't mean they don't have underlying conditions etc so in theory you can't police everyone who doesn't have one as long as most people are wearing them from what I have seen then surely that's a good thing ? One thing I do seem to notice though is near enough every bus I see has a "BUS FULL" sign in when empty or with very few passengers on , surely its time for widespread roll out of LED blinds I think , First in Essex now has a thing on the app that tells you were the bus is in real time and how many people are on board , about time we embrace the technology here in London and roll something out like this . Considering the financial position TfL are in, LEDs are a LONG way away
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Post by SILENCED on Jul 1, 2020 15:37:30 GMT
Drivers were advised when buses went back to front door boarding not to refuse people travel and TBF, I agree with that as it shouldn't be drivers job to police who is wearing a mask. I believe there was actually meant to be officials on board buses policing this but clearly that never happened. At the end of the day some people have medical conditions etc just because they look "normal" doesn't mean they don't have underlying conditions etc so in theory you can't police everyone who doesn't have one as long as most people are wearing them from what I have seen then surely that's a good thing ? One thing I do seem to notice though is near enough every bus I see has a "BUS FULL" sign in when empty or with very few passengers on , surely its time for widespread roll out of LED blinds I think , First in Essex now has a thing on the app that tells you were the bus is in real time and how many people are on board , about time we embrace the technology here in London and roll something out like this . Reckon London dual doors will mean the driver is unable to track passengers.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2020 16:09:03 GMT
www.youtube.com/watch?v=xp5DLcdJh0II hope that drivers aren't being told not to enforce the maximum capacity either? Looking at this video there appear to be more than 20 people on this bus!
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Post by greenboy on Jul 1, 2020 16:50:55 GMT
At the end of the day some people have medical conditions etc just because they look "normal" doesn't mean they don't have underlying conditions etc so in theory you can't police everyone who doesn't have one as long as most people are wearing them from what I have seen then surely that's a good thing ? One thing I do seem to notice though is near enough every bus I see has a "BUS FULL" sign in when empty or with very few passengers on , surely its time for widespread roll out of LED blinds I think , First in Essex now has a thing on the app that tells you were the bus is in real time and how many people are on board , about time we embrace the technology here in London and roll something out like this . Considering the financial position TfL are in, LEDs are a LONG way away Maybe TfL are looking at the wrong LEDs? It's funny how they're cost effective everywhere else and how buses leaving London for further use elsewhere are invariably converted to LED.
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Post by vjaska on Jul 1, 2020 17:19:51 GMT
Considering the financial position TfL are in, LEDs are a LONG way away Maybe TfL are looking at the wrong LEDs? It's funny how they're cost effective everywhere else and how buses leaving London for further use elsewhere are invariably converted to LED. The priority has to be attract people onto buses and LED’s or any type of blind within London in fact won’t achieve that.
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Post by galwhv69 on Jul 1, 2020 17:32:19 GMT
Maybe TfL are looking at the wrong LEDs? It's funny how they're cost effective everywhere else and how buses leaving London for further use elsewhere are invariably converted to LED. The priority has to be attract people onto buses and LED’s or any type of blind within London in fact won’t achieve that. Unless that blind can display "Free Wifi" "Free USB Chargers" & "Premium Seating"
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Jul 1, 2020 18:06:49 GMT
The priority has to be attract people onto buses and LED’s or any type of blind within London in fact won’t achieve that. Unless that blind can display "Free Wifi" "Free USB Chargers" & "Premium Seating" Those three won't attract people in London either. I've not seen any shoot up in usage on routes which have USB ports. People in London need a service that gets them from A to B, and most importantly it needs to be fast, frequent and reliable. For some reason TfL seem to be incapable of making a route which has all three factors. Routes like the 5 and 25 which are reliable are now anything but fast, and fast routes like the 246 are too infrequent to attract passenger usage. People in London don't spent particularly long periods on a bus to a point where a high back seat will attract them off their car nor will Wi-Fi. However seeing buses fly by on bus lanes while their car is stuck in traffic certainly will.
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Post by wirewiper on Jul 1, 2020 18:21:35 GMT
The priority has to be attract people onto buses and LED’s or any type of blind within London in fact won’t achieve that. Unless that blind can display "Free Wifi" "Free USB Chargers" & "Premium Seating" What passengers want more than anything is a reliable service that turns up when its is supposed to. Free wifi and USB chargers are not regarded as important by bus passengers although they are nice to have and some passengers do find them useful. Although they aren't much use on a bus that hasn't turned up; or to a passenger who waits 15 minutes for a bus that is supposed to run every five, only for three to come together.
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Post by TB123 on Jul 1, 2020 18:33:24 GMT
The priority has to be attract people onto buses and LED’s or any type of blind within London in fact won’t achieve that. Unless that blind can display "Free Wifi" "Free USB Chargers" & "Premium Seating" Or rather, more bus priority! More consistent journey times means a faster and more reliable service which will put rocket fuel behind bus usage. Also means that cost can be taken out through reduced PVRs thanks to quicker trip cycles. Or that resource can be reinvested in better frequencies.
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Post by rif153 on Jul 1, 2020 18:46:04 GMT
Unless that blind can display "Free Wifi" "Free USB Chargers" & "Premium Seating" What passengers want more than anything is a reliable service that turns up when its is supposed to. Free wifi and USB chargers are not regarded as important by bus passengers although they are nice to have and some passengers do find them useful. Although they aren't much use on a bus that hasn't turned up; or to a passenger who waits 15 minutes for a bus that is supposed to run every five, only for three to come together. I think things like Free Wifi and USB chargers are nice things to have and I wouldn't object to them being rolled out across the bus network, as the latter already is, but I don't know if it would be well used enough for it to be financially viable. People who are always on mobile data will just use that on buses instead though those who have limited amounts may be more keen to use the wifi, personally whenever I go on a train I always connect to the wifi but I know people who don't see the point and simply remain on their data despite free wifi being available.
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