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Post by redbus on Jun 21, 2022 17:51:45 GMT
I know it is a rail strike today, but SEVEN bus 13 showing in the headway for one bus is still rather poor. That's a third of the PVR close to each other. There are a lot of curtailments currently. I do wonder if splitting the 13 back into two routes will be viable one day, the current service is ridiculous. I wanted to go from Swiss Cottage to Golders Green a few weeks ago and the next 13 was 25 minutes away!! I am afraid 15-20 mins gaps on the 13 are no longer news, it is pretty much a daily occurrence
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Post by george on Jun 23, 2022 11:10:05 GMT
I remember someone on hear saying there was a Mortlake and Barnes bus review on the way, what is the latest with this?
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Post by Catford94 on Jun 23, 2022 19:29:33 GMT
I haven't really had to give any thought to the ULEZ angle on this, but a couple of thoughts on other aspects -
At the risk of stating the obvious, enforcement cameras work on registration number recognition, and DVLA will know whether a vehicle is licensed as a PSV or not. (There was some bad advice doing the rounds a few years ago about buying an ex London taxi and being able to drive in bus lanes - it's what the vehicle is licensed as at the time, not what it might have been built as, that counts.)
Also (and I'm aware I'm jumping in here so this may not be relevant) but if you don't have a PCV licence, the historic exemption for driving a bus on a car licence is, as I currently understand it, that driver must be over 21, bus must be over 30, no more than 8 passengers, and not for hire + reward (all 4 circumstances must apply, not just one or some of them) - I don't think an ALX400 would qualify for a few more years.
Ultimately, advice on this sort of thing is best sought from DVLA rather than random people on the internet, and they do change the rules now and then (this one seems to have been settled for a while, it changed a lot in the 1990s and too many people remember bits of the law as it was some time ago) - DVLA leaflet INF52 is the one to search for.
If you've already had these thoughts, great, but may just be of use to someone...
I would clear a little bit of this up. You can only drive a bus on a car licence with less than 8 passengers, only if you passed you car licence before 1997. The licencing changed in 1997 so car drivers could no longer drive a bus in this way and it was also the same for LGV like 7.5 tonne vehicles. After 1997 you would need separate training.
Have you got a link to something official that says that?
First I've heard of this (although as I said, they change the rules now and then) and current leaflet INF52 does not mention that in respect of the historic vehicle exemption.
I'm aware that before 1997 you got C1 (goods vehicle up to 7.5 tonnes) and D1 (minibus 9 to 16 seats - although not for hire and reward) entitlement with a car licence - and after 1997 you didn't.
If they have changed the rules, I'm going to have to raise this with a preservation group I'm involved with, but I'll need to have something official about it.
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Post by rj131 on Jun 23, 2022 21:23:11 GMT
The Mayor and Grant Shapps are at each other’s throats again. Shapps certainly didn’t mince his words in this letter.
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Post by yunus on Jun 23, 2022 21:54:45 GMT
The Mayor and Grant Shapps are at each other’s throats again. Shapps certainly didn’t mince his words in this letter. Not intending to go on like a broken record but seems pretty obvious that the government aren't willing to provide a long term deal and blaming Khan which is a petty excuse. A thought and aware that members on here have said it's unlikely but as Khan says 18% of the bus network is to be cut then why keep the LTs? They cost too much to maintain and daily mechanical faults occur. Imo cheaper to replace them with existing vehicles. Happy to be corrected.
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Post by WH241 on Jun 23, 2022 21:57:07 GMT
The Mayor and Grant Shapps are at each other’s throats again. Shapps certainly didn’t mince his words in this letter. Not intending to go on like a broken record but seems pretty obvious that the government aren't willing to provide a long term deal and blaming Khan which is a petty excuse. A thought and aware that members on here have said it's unlikely but as Khan says 18% of the bus network is to be cut then why keep the LTs? They cost too much to maintain and daily mechanical faults occur. Imo cheaper to replace them with existing vehicles. Happy to be corrected. It would cost far too much money to replace the LTs as the tender costs would be higher.
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Post by vjaska on Jun 24, 2022 0:26:50 GMT
The Mayor and Grant Shapps are at each other’s throats again. Shapps certainly didn’t mince his words in this letter. Not intending to go on like a broken record but seems pretty obvious that the government aren't willing to provide a long term deal and blaming Khan which is a petty excuse. A thought and aware that members on here have said it's unlikely but as Khan says 18% of the bus network is to be cut then why keep the LTs? They cost too much to maintain and daily mechanical faults occur. Imo cheaper to replace them with existing vehicles. Happy to be corrected. To withdraw LT's short of their life expectancy, as much as I can't stand the things, makes little sense and would end up wasting money at a time when money is tight. It's not cheaper to replace them - just for starters, almost no provincial operator will touch them due to their complex mechanics and spec so your not going to raise much value from them bar the odd enthusiast or group who may wish to preserve an example. TfL may as well run them into the ground to get maximum value from them
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Post by rugbyref on Jun 24, 2022 6:46:14 GMT
The Mayor and Grant Shapps are at each other’s throats again. Shapps certainly didn’t mince his words in this letter. Khan proven to be telling lies....no surprise there!
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Jun 24, 2022 7:48:29 GMT
The Mayor and Grant Shapps are at each other’s throats again. Shapps certainly didn’t mince his words in this letter. Khan proven to be telling lies....no surprise there! And Grant Shapps is speaking the truth?
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Post by SILENCED on Jun 24, 2022 8:09:23 GMT
Khan proven to be telling lies....no surprise there! And Grant Shapps is speaking the truth? Politicians from all parties are compulsive liars, so probably neither is telling a 100% truth. The worse ones are local politicians, who the majority seem to be corrupt, and lie to cover it up.
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Post by wirewiper on Jun 24, 2022 8:55:08 GMT
The Mayor and Grant Shapps are at each other’s throats again. Shapps certainly didn’t mince his words in this letter. This is what this Government does. They don't have any solutions, so they shift the responsibility for the problems on to others.
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Post by southlondon413 on Jun 24, 2022 9:09:59 GMT
The Mayor and Grant Shapps are at each other’s throats again. Shapps certainly didn’t mince his words in this letter. This is what this Government does. They don't have any solutions, so they shift the responsibility for the problems on to others. Kahn is responsible for TfL, the buck stops at his door. He is doing the exact same thing by trying to pass the responsibility for his failures on TfL onto someone else. Kahn could do with a piece of humble pie and a reminder that he is the head of TfL, not Grant Shapps.
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Post by YX10FFN on Jun 24, 2022 9:24:18 GMT
The Mayor and Grant Shapps are at each other’s throats again. Shapps certainly didn’t mince his words in this letter. This is what this Government does. They don't have any solutions, so they shift the responsibility for the problems on to others. Frankly both camps are doing exactly that. I don't trust either of them.
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Post by 6HP502C on Jun 24, 2022 9:55:59 GMT
I remember someone on hear saying there was a Mortlake and Barnes bus review on the way, what is the latest with this? It’s going public imminently.
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Post by TB123 on Jun 24, 2022 10:01:10 GMT
I remember someone on hear saying there was a Mortlake and Barnes bus review on the way, what is the latest with this? It’s going public imminently. Wonder whether imminently means today or as in next few weeks....
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