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Post by vjaska on Jun 8, 2024 18:53:23 GMT
On a different note. I was a big bendy bus fan. They should have remained methinks. They should of stayed for the 507 & 521 for sure because having high capacity buses on those two routes made a lot of sense given they were short in journey duration and were largely commuter based between two main line terminal stations. Beyond that, I'm happy the other routes went back to double deckers - rode all the routes with Artics and it wasn't a great experience, especially during peaks when they became like cattle trucks.
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Post by LondonExplorer316 on Jun 8, 2024 19:00:44 GMT
On a different note. I was a big bendy bus fan. They should have remained methinks. They should of stayed for the 507 & 521 for sure because having high capacity buses on those two routes made a lot of sense given they were short in journey duration and were largely commuter based between two main line terminal stations. Beyond that, I'm happy the other routes went back to double deckers - rode all the routes with Artics and it wasn't a great experience, especially during peaks when they became like cattle trucks. I agree. Shorter, more commuter or shuttle based routes exactly like the 507 and 521 were the perfect kind of route to allocate with bendy buses. I wonder if they had kept using artics what EV options they'd have had.
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Post by BE37054 (quoll662) on Jun 8, 2024 19:08:54 GMT
They should of stayed for the 507 & 521 for sure because having high capacity buses on those two routes made a lot of sense given they were short in journey duration and were largely commuter based between two main line terminal stations. Beyond that, I'm happy the other routes went back to double deckers - rode all the routes with Artics and it wasn't a great experience, especially during peaks when they became like cattle trucks. I agree. Shorter, more commuter or shuttle based routes exactly like the 507 and 521 were the perfect kind of route to allocate with bendy buses. I wonder if they had kept using artics what EV options they'd have had. Irizar IE Trams?
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Post by LondonExplorer316 on Jun 8, 2024 19:21:28 GMT
I agree. Shorter, more commuter or shuttle based routes exactly like the 507 and 521 were the perfect kind of route to allocate with bendy buses. I wonder if they had kept using artics what EV options they'd have had. Irizar IE Trams? I'd hope it was the better looking IE Bus, but I guess that'd be most likely.
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Post by enviroPB on Jun 8, 2024 19:34:15 GMT
On a different note. I was a big bendy bus fan. They should have remained methinks. They should of stayed for the 507 & 521 for sure because having high capacity buses on those two routes made a lot of sense given they were short in journey duration and were largely commuter based between two main line terminal stations. Beyond that, I'm happy the other routes went back to double deckers - rode all the routes with Artics and it wasn't a great experience, especially during peaks when they became like cattle trucks. Bendy buses will forever remain controversial, but they were unique and those experiences can't be replicated! An 18 metre long bus with 150 pax capacity on some of the most radial routes in the city made it a community on wheels essentially. Of my 7 years of using the 25 whilst living on the route I'e seen almost everything on the artics, including a City business worker preaching daily about the Freemasons in a suit & tie, mostly Polish construction workers sat at the end of the bus drinking vodka on a Friday evening (pre prohibition), and Vaisakhi celebrators hand out a free drink to everyone on the bus due to the procession causing traffic. They tried on double deckers but passengers there weren't as receptive. Yes there were issues with the length of artics, with the 73 on Red Lion Street, 38 turning into Essex Road, the 18 turning into Euston and pretty much the 453 north of Oxford Circus the most notable concern for tricky turns, but I believe the rewards outweighed the risks. When the LTs were open boarding, it didn't have the same feel to it. Bendy buses truly had some character to it and i miss them dearly.
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Post by 15002 on Jun 9, 2024 9:28:07 GMT
They should of stayed for the 507 & 521 for sure because having high capacity buses on those two routes made a lot of sense given they were short in journey duration and were largely commuter based between two main line terminal stations. Beyond that, I'm happy the other routes went back to double deckers - rode all the routes with Artics and it wasn't a great experience, especially during peaks when they became like cattle trucks. Bendy buses will forever remain controversial, but they were unique and those experiences can't be replicated! An 18 metre long bus with 150 pax capacity on some of the most radial routes in the city made it a community on wheels essentially. Of my 7 years of using the 25 whilst living on the route I'e seen almost everything on the artics, including a City business worker preaching daily about the Freemasons in a suit & tie, mostly Polish construction workers sat at the end of the bus drinking vodka on a Friday evening (pre prohibition), and Vaisakhi celebrators hand out a free drink to everyone on the bus due to the procession causing traffic. They tried on double deckers but passengers there weren't as receptive. Yes there were issues with the length of artics, with the 73 on Red Lion Street, 38 turning into Essex Road, the 18 turning into Euston and pretty much the 453 north of Oxford Circus the most notable concern for tricky turns, but I believe the rewards outweighed the risks. When the LTs were open boarding, it didn't have the same feel to it. Bendy buses truly had some character to it and i miss them dearly. Only ever been on the Bendies once in London, but couldn’t agree more. Were amongst my favourite buses and wished the 25 kept them for longer, especially with them being Citaro’s too.
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Post by 18ARustee on Jun 9, 2024 19:27:42 GMT
The 440 both ends of the route's terminus is confusing. It was easier when it terminated a Power Road. I noticed last week a good many of them with Stonebridge Park Stn as the destination. I think a better option would be to terminate at Wembley Stadium Station, going around the roundabout rather than going to the Civic Centre. Upon leaving Chiswick Centre turn right into Gunnersbury and terminate at Power Road methinks.
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Post by COBO on Jun 9, 2024 19:33:42 GMT
The 440 both ends of the route's terminus is confusing. It was easier when it terminated a Power Road. I noticed last week a good many of them with Stonebridge Park Stn as the destination. I think a better option would be to terminate at Wembley Stadium Station, going around the roundabout rather than going to the Civic Centre. Upon leaving Chiswick Centre turn right into Gunnersbury and terminate at Power Road methinks. There may have been a football match and a popstar performing in Arena the reason why many where terminating at Stonebridge Park. Why would it have been better to terminate the 440 at Wembley Stadium Station and Power Road?
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Post by greenboy on Jun 10, 2024 6:27:38 GMT
On a different note. I was a big bendy bus fan. They should have remained methinks. I don't think artics have been a great success anywhere in the UK and not really surprising that they didn't last long in London. Interesting from an enthusiast perspective but I don't think there was any love for them from the general public. They caused problems in Central London and often had to take different diversion routes to conventional buses and bus stop blocking was a particular problem, apparently reliability of the 24 improved after bendies were removed from the 29.
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Post by capitalomnibus on Jun 10, 2024 10:22:11 GMT
Bendy buses will forever remain controversial, but they were unique and those experiences can't be replicated! An 18 metre long bus with 150 pax capacity on some of the most radial routes in the city made it a community on wheels essentially. Of my 7 years of using the 25 whilst living on the route I'e seen almost everything on the artics, including a City business worker preaching daily about the Freemasons in a suit & tie, mostly Polish construction workers sat at the end of the bus drinking vodka on a Friday evening (pre prohibition), and Vaisakhi celebrators hand out a free drink to everyone on the bus due to the procession causing traffic. They tried on double deckers but passengers there weren't as receptive. Yes there were issues with the length of artics, with the 73 on Red Lion Street, 38 turning into Essex Road, the 18 turning into Euston and pretty much the 453 north of Oxford Circus the most notable concern for tricky turns, but I believe the rewards outweighed the risks. When the LTs were open boarding, it didn't have the same feel to it. Bendy buses truly had some character to it and i miss them dearly. Only ever been on the Bendies once in London, but couldn’t agree more. Were amongst my favourite buses and wished the 25 kept them for longer, especially with them being Citaro’s too. Routes like the 25 is part of them problem that led for them top be culled. Express routes like 507 etc. But 25, hell no. Not enough seats, cattle conditions for people that travel long rides on it. The 25 should have got tri-axle double deckers.
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Post by 18ARustee on Jun 10, 2024 13:17:32 GMT
The 440 both ends of the route's terminus is confusing. It was easier when it terminated a Power Road. I noticed last week a good many of them with Stonebridge Park Stn as the destination. I think a better option would be to terminate at Wembley Stadium Station, going around the roundabout rather than going to the Civic Centre. Upon leaving Chiswick Centre turn right into Gunnersbury and terminate at Power Road methinks. There may have been a football match and a popstar performing in Arena the reason why many where terminating at Stonebridge Park. Why would it have been better to terminate the 440 at Wembley Stadium Station and Power Road? Better reliability. That extension to Fourth Way can be confusing. It's like it does a revolution of the area before it parks there. Even on non match days it can be cumbersome. Same for Burnham Green, after it leaves Chiswick Business park, it practically goes back on itself to terminate at Turnham Green. I recall reading Oxford Road area was served by H91 before. Not suggesting that, but another viable alternative. Some of the 440 drivers have even remarked the Wembley route is a pain.
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Post by redbus on Jun 10, 2024 13:26:41 GMT
Only ever been on the Bendies once in London, but couldn’t agree more. Were amongst my favourite buses and wished the 25 kept them for longer, especially with them being Citaro’s too. Routes like the 25 is part of them problem that led for them top be culled. Express routes like 507 etc. But 25, hell no. Not enough seats, cattle conditions for people that travel long rides on it. The 25 should have got tri-axle double deckers. I did not like the bendies at all. I was very pleased when they were axed. I have two defining pictures on them in mind, one was a complete lack of seats, a bad joke given the road space occupied by the bus, the other was trying to cross the road during the green man phase of the traffic lights with the bendy bus completely blocking the crossing.
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Post by COBO on Jun 10, 2024 13:59:18 GMT
The 105s are treating the Greenford Station infront of Greenford Station as a stand again blocking everyone else from using the stop 😂 ever since they closed Rockware Avenue stand the 105s just stand wherever.
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Post by greenboy on Jun 11, 2024 5:22:48 GMT
Somebody's had enough of unnecessary roadworks...
https://www.tiktok.com/@thekingsleyhamilton/video/7349977871869316384
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Post by DT 11 on Jun 11, 2024 8:56:45 GMT
Out of curiosity has the 2 & 74 ever had a bus stop on Oxford Street reason I ask this is because there is a distance between stops. What I find annoying is passengers constantly ring the bell over and over again in the Marylebone direction thinking the stop is on Oxford Street when it is actually on Portman Street, yesterday this clown pushed the Emergency door button when I was at the lights. Does the 30 have a stop on Oxford Street in the direction of Hackney Wick? In fact every time I do this route without fail the bell is rang at least more than 4 times for this stop makes me wonder if people think ringing the bell constantly will suddenly make the doors magically open. Overall constant bell ringing does not bother me it’s just this particular stop where it is spammed if someone comes up to me and asks why do you keep stopping the answer is “Stop ringing the bell” and it has happened before where people lean on the bells. If there was an announcement “You Only Need to ring the bell once” I would play it 10 times between these two stops ![P-)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/pirate.png)
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