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Post by DT 11 on Sept 18, 2024 9:11:17 GMT
Casual observation: Middle of the morning peak on Long Lane, my SL3 is carrying as near as makes no difference, a full standing load as is the 301 in front of me. 301s and SL3s in the opposite direction are just as full. The 301 is about five years old, the SL3 is a few months old, so where have all these people come from? How were they making the (presumably) Bexleyheath to Abbey Wood/Thamesmead before? The B11? The 229? Seems unlikely. Just seems to be a genuine case of ‘build it and they will come’ A lot of people used to wait for buses at the Clock Tower to get to Bexleyheath Station or use 422 & B11 around East Wickham. A large amount of them now use to Trains from Abbey Wood. The 301 & SL3 will fill up at Abbey Wood Station collecting 3 trains loads of people to Bexleyheath is what I understand happens daily. The last time I did the 301 on a weekday was long before the Elizabeth Line started and it was even busy then… Just remember when the 301 consultation came out and the proposal was to use single deckers. I said from day 1 that route requires double deckers because TFL did not realise what they proposed to create. I would say a frequency increase to every 10 minutes is probably needed now.
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Post by M1104 on Sept 18, 2024 10:10:41 GMT
Has anyone heard anything regarding the 386 tender . It was up for tender and I haven’t heard anything, thought it would have been announced by now . A lot of tender announcements are running late, which has been somewhat the norm for quite a while nowadays
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Post by greenboy on Sept 18, 2024 11:26:25 GMT
Casual observation: Middle of the morning peak on Long Lane, my SL3 is carrying as near as makes no difference, a full standing load as is the 301 in front of me. 301s and SL3s in the opposite direction are just as full. The 301 is about five years old, the SL3 is a few months old, so where have all these people come from? How were they making the (presumably) Bexleyheath to Abbey Wood/Thamesmead before? The B11? The 229? Seems unlikely. Just seems to be a genuine case of ‘build it and they will come’ Bexleyheath has a 5tph train service which for the size of the town and catchment, is rather poor. I think 5tph on the Bexleyheath line is actually pretty decent given the restrictive nature of the network.
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Post by DE20106 on Sept 18, 2024 18:14:57 GMT
Wonder when we’re gonna see the 2023/24 bus usage figures from TfL. They usually pop up around this time of year
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Post by yunus on Sept 18, 2024 19:32:09 GMT
Speaking of routes allocations earlier re the 275!
What other routes have a Diesel allocation but hybrids run the majority? All I can think of is the 144, 207, 261, 422 & 452?
I am aware that the 145 also has a part alloc but thankfully the majority is Diesel both MMC & classic bodied.
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Post by lj61nwc on Sept 18, 2024 19:34:55 GMT
Wonder when we’re gonna see the 2023/24 bus usage figures from TfL. They usually pop up around this time of year Probably delayed due to the cyber attack. Every TfL staff(i think about 20,000) have to be seen individually to regain access to TfL systems. Consultations, photocards(as others have already posted about prior), vehicle data across LU, LO, Buses & Trams have also been affected or restricted as a safety precaution
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Post by greg on Sept 19, 2024 0:09:47 GMT
Speaking of routes allocations earlier re the 275! What other routes have a Diesel allocation but hybrids run the majority? All I can think of is the 144, 207, 261, 422 & 452? I am aware that the 145 also has a part alloc but thankfully the majority is Diesel both MMC & classic bodied. 220?
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Post by abellion on Sept 19, 2024 5:29:29 GMT
Speaking of routes allocations earlier re the 275! What other routes have a Diesel allocation but hybrids run the majority? All I can think of is the 144, 207, 261, 422 & 452? I am aware that the 145 also has a part alloc but thankfully the majority is Diesel both MMC & classic bodied. 220? The 220 is allocated the 13reg VHs from the 28, its ADEs were withdrawn IIRC
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Post by COBO on Sept 19, 2024 5:33:02 GMT
The 220 is allocated the 13reg VHs from the 28, its ADEs were withdrawn IIRC But there’s only 23 13 reg VHs and the pvr is 24 something else most make the rest of the allocation and plus the spares.
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Post by abellion on Sept 19, 2024 5:39:14 GMT
The 220 is allocated the 13reg VHs from the 28, its ADEs were withdrawn IIRC But there’s only 23 13 reg VHs and the pvr is 24 something else most make the rest of the allocation and plus the spares. If that’s the case I stand corrected, however based on the daily runout you would think that the main allocation is ADEs which isn’t the case. Lots of the 18s VHs at night but from the mornings it’s always vast majority ADE, funnily enough the 13regs are possibly the least common type on the 220.
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Post by mondraker275 on Sept 19, 2024 6:43:39 GMT
Out of curiosity why is it on some services the on board information LCD screens provide more information and then some provide just the bus stops. Example 185 & 450 will display how many minutes until the next station. I’ve noticed the screens on the refurbished HVs & the ESs have very limited information. Presumably due to the programming? At one point the was all round consistency but now just becoming a big joke… When I finally had a 58 with the onboard screen working I was not impressed with the limited info. A big square screen (downstairs) and all it has is the basic info of next stop. What a waste, you might as well have the CCTV...
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Post by mkay315 on Sept 19, 2024 7:59:23 GMT
Casual observation: Middle of the morning peak on Long Lane, my SL3 is carrying as near as makes no difference, a full standing load as is the 301 in front of me. 301s and SL3s in the opposite direction are just as full. The 301 is about five years old, the SL3 is a few months old, so where have all these people come from? How were they making the (presumably) Bexleyheath to Abbey Wood/Thamesmead before? The B11? The 229? Seems unlikely. Just seems to be a genuine case of ‘build it and they will come’ To be fair the 301 and SL3 from Abbey Wood/Thamesmead is the quicker journey to Bexleyheath as opposed to the 229, B11 and 401. The 229 whilst I absolutely love the Ts on that route (someone please preserve those buses when it retires) is a nightmare to do an end to end on especially around Bexley Village going towards Sidcup and my goodness those roads are tight around the village. I'm actually surprised how the 132, 492 can actually navigate around there. The SL3 for me personally has cut the 229 journey out for me in a positive way.
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Post by paulo on Sept 19, 2024 8:50:59 GMT
The 220 is allocated the 13reg VHs from the 28, its ADEs were withdrawn IIRC But there’s only 23 13 reg VHs and the pvr is 24 something else most make the rest of the allocation and plus the spares. 2 ADEs remained 40472/3 whilst the rest of that batch was withdrawn and another couple moved across from BT, possibly 40412/3.
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Post by yunus on Sept 19, 2024 13:54:45 GMT
Could anyone be kind enough to list routes that have "partial" allocations?
On top of my head I have the 144, 145 & 261!
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Post by M1104 on Sept 19, 2024 14:18:03 GMT
Could anyone be kind enough to list routes that have "partial" allocations? On top of my head I have the 144, 145 & 261! If you mean mixed allocations then the 57 and 80 are two examples officially spec'd with electrics (Ees) and hybrids (WHVs) for their present contracts
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