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Post by joefrombow on Sept 20, 2024 15:09:41 GMT
Do tfl not bother changing timetables at stops anymore ? Waiting for a 323 read the old style timetable , Waited bus hasn't come out the bus stand yet , looked online on bustimes.org , bus comes out 5 minutes later as new timetable ( and runs every 22 minutes in evenings now , slightly odd ) but my point is not everyone has access to the internet especially older people it said online this has been the case since 24th August , why no update ? This is the nonsense aswell as regulating every minute that just puts people of using public transport . I do think paper timetables need to go in their entirety for this exact reason, no information is better than wrong information. Digital signs should be mandatory at every single bus stop to tell people the information. The other argument however is that the elderly should actually try to catch up with the times, using a phone isn't actually rocket science and if dementia patients still manage to use them then there's no excuse for able people who can use a bus to not use it. Maybe but even online you cannot get a actual timetable on the tfl website , London bus routes or bus times does a good job but for the general public the tfl website trying to find information for a bus route can be headache same as tfl go app but yes I guess the world is going digital so makes sense , I've noticed a lot of Central Line timetables now have a "scan QR code" feature but the space where that ink is the timetable could of just been printed . Having just looked at the amazing Londonbusroutes.net I've seen this is a temporary timetable so could explain the 5 minutes later journeys and the strange 22 minutes frequency in the evenings but even so some kind of notice to notify people or something would be helpful , how does a website with nothing to do with tfl have more information than the tfl website on bus changes etc ? |
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Post by vjaska on Sept 20, 2024 15:29:13 GMT
I do think paper timetables need to go in their entirety for this exact reason, no information is better than wrong information. Digital signs should be mandatory at every single bus stop to tell people the information. The other argument however is that the elderly should actually try to catch up with the times, using a phone isn't actually rocket science and if dementia patients still manage to use them then there's no excuse for able people who can use a bus to not use it. Maybe but even online you cannot get a actual timetable on the tfl website , London bus routes or bus times does a good job but for the general public the tfl website trying to find information for a bus route can be headache same as tfl go app but yes I guess the world is going digital so makes sense , I've noticed a lot of Central Line timetables now have a "scan QR code" feature but the space where that ink is the timetable could of just been printed . Having just looked at the amazing Londonbusroutes.net I've seen this is a temporary timetable so could explain the 5 minutes later journeys and the strange 22 minutes frequency in the evenings but even so some kind of notice to notify people or something would be helpful , how does a website with nothing to do with tfl have more information than the tfl website on bus changes etc ? There really is no excuse for it - just about every other operator outside London shows timetables and route maps on their websites at the very least and some still produce paper timetable booklets - if people watch the recent Geoff Marshall documentary on buses on YouTube, the guy in charge of the Bournemouth network explains why they do both paper and digital information in tandem so there is still a place for that. What isn't on though is TfL's ignorance of providing any information at all. |
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Post by matthieu1221 on Sept 21, 2024 15:47:05 GMT
I do think paper timetables need to go in their entirety for this exact reason, no information is better than wrong information. Digital signs should be mandatory at every single bus stop to tell people the information. The other argument however is that the elderly should actually try to catch up with the times, using a phone isn't actually rocket science and if dementia patients still manage to use them then there's no excuse for able people who can use a bus to not use it. Maybe but even online you cannot get a actual timetable on the tfl website , London bus routes or bus times does a good job but for the general public the tfl website trying to find information for a bus route can be headache same as tfl go app but yes I guess the world is going digital so makes sense , I've noticed a lot of Central Line timetables now have a "scan QR code" feature but the space where that ink is the timetable could of just been printed . Having just looked at the amazing Londonbusroutes.net I've seen this is a temporary timetable so could explain the 5 minutes later journeys and the strange 22 minutes frequency in the evenings but even so some kind of notice to notify people or something would be helpful , how does a website with nothing to do with tfl have more information than the tfl website on bus changes etc ? The QR code 'timetable' has the 'advantage' of never being out of date unlike a lot of the paper timetables/maps that TfL have to keep up to date (and fail to do so).
Everything that LBR has is open data (from TfL), the problem is that quite simply the TfL website is awful and doesn't fully (and simply/conveniently) display that information.
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Post by abellion on Sept 22, 2024 8:58:48 GMT
I was in Tooting, a few minutes from AL at about 5am once a few months ago and saw an Ee I didn’t recognise so I looked it up on LVF. I’m fairly sure I searched the right vehicle and it said it was due at Crystal Palace on the 157 to Morden in around 25+ minutes. So is it possible and allowed for drivers to login before they start deadrunning? In hindsight I’m questioning if I just searched for the wrong Ee which happened to be at Crystal Palace already.
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Post by M1104 on Sept 22, 2024 11:33:55 GMT
I was in Tooting, a few minutes from AL at about 5am once a few months ago and saw an Ee I didn’t recognise so I looked it up on LVF. I’m fairly sure I searched the right vehicle and it said it was due at Crystal Palace on the 157 to Morden in around 25+ minutes. So is it possible and allowed for drivers to login before they start deadrunning? In hindsight I’m questioning if I just searched for the wrong Ee which happened to be at Crystal Palace already. Logging's actually required before leaving the depot as it's part of the daily depot checks. It also helps the radio room determine where drivers should start service in cases of leaving the depot late, road closures along light running routes, etc |
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Post by abellion on Sept 22, 2024 12:08:35 GMT
I was in Tooting, a few minutes from AL at about 5am once a few months ago and saw an Ee I didn’t recognise so I looked it up on LVF. I’m fairly sure I searched the right vehicle and it said it was due at Crystal Palace on the 157 to Morden in around 25+ minutes. So is it possible and allowed for drivers to login before they start deadrunning? In hindsight I’m questioning if I just searched for the wrong Ee which happened to be at Crystal Palace already. Logging's actually required before leaving the depot as it's part of the daily depot checks. It also helps the radio room determine where drivers should start service in cases of leaving the depot late, road closures along light running routes, etc I meant tracking in service too, I’m not very clued up on the exact terms. For example when I ride the first bus of the day on a route it doesn’t come up on LVF or Countdown whilst the bus is coming from the garage, only shortly after the driver reaches the bus stand will it start tracking as normal |
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Post by greenboy on Sept 22, 2024 12:39:48 GMT
More 'turdis' problems, whilst some of the claims sound a bit exaggerated I wouldn't be too impressed at this eyesore outside my house. There's space for it to be situated further away from the house and maybe if it was encased in fencing to blend in a bit more people might not be so up in arms. And why were residents not consulted about it when TfL have pointless consultations about everything else? metro.co.uk/2024/09/17/man-says-cant-sell-house-a-toilet-bus-drivers-put-outside-21619490/ |
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Sept 22, 2024 15:44:33 GMT
More 'turdis' problems, whilst some of the claims sound a bit exaggerated I wouldn't be too impressed at this eyesore outside my house. There's space for it to be situated further away from the house and maybe if it was encased in fencing to blend in a bit more people might not be so up in arms. And why were residents not consulted about it when TfL have pointless consultations about everything else? metro.co.uk/2024/09/17/man-says-cant-sell-house-a-toilet-bus-drivers-put-outside-21619490/While I do think that there need to be facilities, it seems ridiculous that they didn't even consult with the homeowner about it. |
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Post by COBO on Sept 22, 2024 22:34:26 GMT
It’s amazing how some people don’t ring the bell when they want the bus stop and let them out and expect the bus to stop and let them out.
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Post by M1104 on Sept 23, 2024 13:51:31 GMT
It’s amazing how some people don’t ring the bell when they want the bus stop and let them out and expect the bus to stop and let them out. What I find irritating is a passenger standing at the exit door as if they want the next stop only for them to remain there after the doors have opened |
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Post by Alexis on Sept 23, 2024 14:02:44 GMT
Logging's actually required before leaving the depot as it's part of the daily depot checks. It also helps the radio room determine where drivers should start service in cases of leaving the depot late, road closures along light running routes, etc I meant tracking in service too, I’m not very clued up on the exact terms. For example when I ride the first bus of the day on a route it doesn’t come up on LVF or Countdown whilst the bus is coming from the garage, only shortly after the driver reaches the bus stand will it start tracking as normal After checking the bus at the garage the driver is supposed to log out of the machine and then log back in once they arrive at the stand/first stop, however a lot of drivers don't bother logging out and just stay logged in during the light run. |
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Post by yunus on Sept 24, 2024 21:07:22 GMT
If travelling from Barkingside - Walthamstow would it be quicker to use the 275 or take a 128 to Claybury then switch to a 123 or SL2?
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Post by abellion on Sept 24, 2024 21:23:53 GMT
If travelling from Barkingside - Walthamstow would it be quicker to use the 275 or take a 128 to Claybury then switch to a 123 or SL2? I think the SL2 would be better. The 275 and SL2 also cross over on the A406 thanks to the 275’s tedious diversion due to the Broadmead Road bridge closure. The 275 goes off the motorway to rejoin LOR and it’s slow around Highams Park, 20 backstreets and constant stopping whilst the SL2 heads straight for Walthamstow. |
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Post by yunus on Sept 24, 2024 21:30:51 GMT
If travelling from Barkingside - Walthamstow would it be quicker to use the 275 or take a 128 to Claybury then switch to a 123 or SL2? I think the SL2 would be better. The 275 and SL2 also cross over on the A406 thanks to the 275’s tedious diversion due to the Broadmead Road bridge closure. The 275 goes off the motorway to rejoin LOR and it’s slow around Highams Park, 20 backstreets and constant stopping whilst the SL2 heads straight for Walthamstow. Yeah your right there. The humps on Hale End Road are a disaster especially on the northern part from Highams Park - Wadham Road, the bus literally drops to 10mph cos they are so rough! Saying that last week I was at St James waiting for it then sussed out all 5 x buses in a row were Hybrids. I thought arghhhhhh so gave up and took the W19 to Ilford instead lol. I prefer it when a route uses one bus type tbf cos it saves confusion and keeps travelling simpler. |
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Post by DW221 on Sept 25, 2024 15:18:46 GMT
I think the SL2 would be better. The 275 and SL2 also cross over on the A406 thanks to the 275’s tedious diversion due to the Broadmead Road bridge closure. The 275 goes off the motorway to rejoin LOR and it’s slow around Highams Park, 20 backstreets and constant stopping whilst the SL2 heads straight for Walthamstow. Yeah your right there. The humps on Hale End Road are a disaster especially on the northern part from Highams Park - Wadham Road, the bus literally drops to 10mph cos they are so rough! Saying that last week I was at St James waiting for it then sussed out all 5 x buses in a row were Hybrids. I thought arghhhhhh so gave up and took the W19 to Ilford instead lol. I prefer it when a route uses one bus type tbf cos it saves confusion and keeps travelling simpler. It may be simpler for you but I absolutely love those LX61 E400Hs so idm the 275 being a mix of E40D & E40H. And if you dont get any traffic on 275 (which admittedly is rare) you’ll have a great ride That being said I really hope the LX61s are retained for another 3yr contract on the 56 although I have my doubts |
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