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Post by sid on May 10, 2018 8:04:52 GMT
Earlier in the evening, on my bus journey heading home a group of tourists politely asked the driver if the next stop was Marble Arch, at that point it actually was but the driver replied "No" in an abrupt manner, there was then an awkward moment of silence without any further assitance before the tourists returned to their seats. Much to my confusion, at that moment I told them it was indeed Marble Arch and then I deliberately mentioned "I don't know why he said no but it is the next stop" to ridicule that driver. They then smiled and thanked me before leaving the bus. I'm not generalising, but what is it with some bus drivers in London? Some drivers can be unhelpful and downright miserable, I've witnessed many occasions like this before. In contrast, every bus driver I encountered in Paris during my seven day stay there last week (and several times before) were helpful and some even politely greet/welcome you upon boarding. Sorry, but if a bus driver is going to be unhelpful and rude then they should change their profession and leave it to others willing to be more polite and enthusiastic as it certainly helps being so for London's image to those visiting the city. The other day I got on the 269 in Bexleyheath when a young girl politley asked if it goes to Sidcup. He said no. I wanted to say something but it was too hot to argue. I'm afraid I'd of had to say something and I'd report him as well.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2018 8:53:09 GMT
The other day I got on the 269 in Bexleyheath when a young girl politley asked if it goes to Sidcup. He said no. I wanted to say something but it was too hot to argue. I'm afraid I'd of had to say something and I'd report him as well. I wish I had have, a lot of it comes down to confidence.
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Post by 15002 on May 10, 2018 9:06:24 GMT
I'm afraid I'd of had to say something and I'd report him as well. I wish I had have, a lot of it comes down to confidence. Dw it ain’t you fault, the bus driver has more of an obligation than you to guide the passenger to their destination Incidentally I was just on the 193 and I just got asked by a woman if the bus goes Hornchurch and I said yeah. I’m surprised she didn’t ask the driver first, but I’m not complaining either
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Post by snoggle on May 10, 2018 10:04:26 GMT
*Rant Approaching* When you stick your hand out,you expect the bus to stop,don't you?Well I expect that aswell!The driver of E124 decided to completely bypass me at the bus stop causing me to unnecesarily have to wait extra at the stop! *Rant Over* I had that with the 123 many years ago. There'd been a long gap so two buses were together and the drivers had clearly decided to play "skip a stop" to try to avoid one bus being chronically overloaded. That meant the first bus that turned up drove past 12 people waiting at my local stop (it was the AM peak so it was busy). This was before the days of real time info so all we saw was a half empty bus whizz past the stop. Needless to say the second bus did arrive but it was packed because it was the late running first bus that had been hammered all the way along the route. I reported that incident as it's not acceptable behaviour. And yes I have a very long memory when it comes to being mucked around by bus drivers.
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Post by cl54 on May 10, 2018 10:24:12 GMT
*Rant Approaching* When you stick your hand out,you expect the bus to stop,don't you?Well I expect that aswell!The driver of E124 decided to completely bypass me at the bus stop causing me to unnecesarily have to wait extra at the stop! *Rant Over* I had that with the 123 many years ago. There'd been a long gap so two buses were together and the drivers had clearly decided to play "skip a stop" to try to avoid one bus being chronically overloaded. That meant the first bus that turned up drove past 12 people waiting at my local stop (it was the AM peak so it was busy). This was before the days of real time info so all we saw was a half empty bus whizz past the stop. Needless to say the second bus did arrive but it was packed because it was the late running first bus that had been hammered all the way along the route. I reported that incident as it's not acceptable behaviour. And yes I have a very long memory when it comes to being mucked around by bus drivers. Back in the day it was called working the road. Better trained crews at the time of course and decent supervision.
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Post by galwhv69 on May 10, 2018 16:42:09 GMT
*Rant Approaching* When you stick your hand out,you expect the bus to stop,don't you?Well I expect that aswell!The driver of E124 decided to completely bypass me at the bus stop causing me to unnecesarily have to wait extra at the stop! *Rant Over* I had that with the 123 many years ago. There'd been a long gap so two buses were together and the drivers had clearly decided to play "skip a stop" to try to avoid one bus being chronically overloaded. That meant the first bus that turned up drove past 12 people waiting at my local stop (it was the AM peak so it was busy). This was before the days of real time info so all we saw was a half empty bus whizz past the stop. Needless to say the second bus did arrive but it was packed because it was the late running first bus that had been hammered all the way along the route. I reported that incident as it's not acceptable behaviour. And yes I have a very long memory when it comes to being mucked around by bus drivers. Funny you mention such an example...this happened on my 280 home like 20 minutes ago!
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Post by busaholic on May 10, 2018 22:30:36 GMT
*Rant Approaching* When you stick your hand out,you expect the bus to stop,don't you?Well I expect that aswell!The driver of E124 decided to completely bypass me at the bus stop causing me to unnecesarily have to wait extra at the stop! *Rant Over* I had that with the 123 many years ago. There'd been a long gap so two buses were together and the drivers had clearly decided to play "skip a stop" to try to avoid one bus being chronically overloaded. That meant the first bus that turned up drove past 12 people waiting at my local stop (it was the AM peak so it was busy). This was before the days of real time info so all we saw was a half empty bus whizz past the stop. Needless to say the second bus did arrive but it was packed because it was the late running first bus that had been hammered all the way along the route. I reported that incident as it's not acceptable behaviour. And yes I have a very long memory when it comes to being mucked around by bus drivers. The incident that still sticks in my mind is way back, when the 57 was an infrequent but useful route. Standing on Streatham High Road, watching the 109s, 159s, 133s, even the 118s seemingly go by in their dozens and the elusive 57 appears on the horizon. Even then there was a dual carriageway with two lanes each side and this clown of a driver imperiously chooses the offside lane and puts his foot down. I was wanting to go to Kingston, and wasn't impressed. I took the running number, then waited 18 minutes or so for the next scheduled bus but got off at Merton Garage when I saw an inspector on duty outside. I relayed what had happened, but to say he wasn't interested was an understatement: put we off the rest of the trip, though.
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Post by vjaska on May 10, 2018 22:57:12 GMT
I had that with the 123 many years ago. There'd been a long gap so two buses were together and the drivers had clearly decided to play "skip a stop" to try to avoid one bus being chronically overloaded. That meant the first bus that turned up drove past 12 people waiting at my local stop (it was the AM peak so it was busy). This was before the days of real time info so all we saw was a half empty bus whizz past the stop. Needless to say the second bus did arrive but it was packed because it was the late running first bus that had been hammered all the way along the route. I reported that incident as it's not acceptable behaviour. And yes I have a very long memory when it comes to being mucked around by bus drivers. The incident that still sticks in my mind is way back, when the 57 was an infrequent but useful route. Standing on Streatham High Road, watching the 109s, 159s, 133s, even the 118s seemingly go by in their dozens and the elusive 57 appears on the horizon. Even then there was a dual carriageway with two lanes each side and this clown of a driver imperiously chooses the offside lane and puts his foot down. I was wanting to go to Kingston, and wasn't impressed. I took the running number, then waited 18 minutes or so for the next scheduled bus but got off at Merton Garage when I saw an inspector on duty outside. I relayed what had happened, but to say he wasn't interested was an understatement: put we off the rest of the trip, though. How long ago was this out of interest?
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Post by snoggle on May 10, 2018 23:19:42 GMT
The incident that still sticks in my mind is way back, when the 57 was an infrequent but useful route. Standing on Streatham High Road, watching the 109s, 159s, 133s, even the 118s seemingly go by in their dozens and the elusive 57 appears on the horizon. Even then there was a dual carriageway with two lanes each side and this clown of a driver imperiously chooses the offside lane and puts his foot down. I was wanting to go to Kingston, and wasn't impressed. I took the running number, then waited 18 minutes or so for the next scheduled bus but got off at Merton Garage when I saw an inspector on duty outside. I relayed what had happened, but to say he wasn't interested was an understatement: put we off the rest of the trip, though. How long ago was this out of interest? Mr Busaholic will answer for himself but I've just had a look in my 1976 copy of a LT Timetable book (yep they had them then) and it shows the 57 as only running every 16-19 mins M-S daytimes. Seems like another world when you consider how very busy and relatively frequent the 57 is these days. It wasn't until the late 1980s that any sort of frequency boost was given [1] and then again in 2003 and 2006 but TfL have, of course, cut M-S freqs this year. [1] from Ian Armstrong's website. He also has a 1973 timetable page displayed with similar freqs to my 76 one.
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Post by busaholic on May 10, 2018 23:43:08 GMT
The incident that still sticks in my mind is way back, when the 57 was an infrequent but useful route. Standing on Streatham High Road, watching the 109s, 159s, 133s, even the 118s seemingly go by in their dozens and the elusive 57 appears on the horizon. Even then there was a dual carriageway with two lanes each side and this clown of a driver imperiously chooses the offside lane and puts his foot down. I was wanting to go to Kingston, and wasn't impressed. I took the running number, then waited 18 minutes or so for the next scheduled bus but got off at Merton Garage when I saw an inspector on duty outside. I relayed what had happened, but to say he wasn't interested was an understatement: put we off the rest of the trip, though. How long ago was this out of interest? I was working for the organisation then, and on the bus side (not that that had any influence on the inspector, in fact, probably the opposite!) and the bus was an RT, so.... God, I feel so old sometimes. DMSs were operating on the 95 to Tooting Broadway, so that puts it after 1971, but not too long after. Certainly, in those days if you wanted to go from Wimbledon to Kingston you'd normally just go for a 131 or a 285, the fast way. The 57 was really just for intermediate points.
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Post by vjaska on May 11, 2018 0:20:39 GMT
How long ago was this out of interest? I was working for the organisation then, and on the bus side (not that that had any influence on the inspector, in fact, probably the opposite!) and the bus was an RT, so.... God, I feel so old sometimes. DMSs were operating on the 95 to Tooting Broadway, so that puts it after 1971, but not too long after. Certainly, in those days if you wanted to go from Wimbledon to Kingston you'd normally just go for a 131 or a 285, the fast way. The 57 was really just for intermediate points. Thanks for that & to snoggle as well - worlds apart from how it is today
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Post by enviroPB on May 11, 2018 11:34:49 GMT
I'm sure some of you have already seen this story today on the Junk Food ban. Thoughts? Immediately I thought about the loss of revenue from this scheme; it didn't help when Sadiq said TfL gains the most advertising revenue out of any transport body in the world (his words, don't know if exaggeration or not). I thought TfL had a £800m deficit to fill, today's proposals certainly won't help to that effort.
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Post by sid on May 11, 2018 11:43:26 GMT
I'm sure some of you have already seen this story today on the Junk Food ban. Thoughts? Immediately I thought about the loss of revenue from this scheme; it didn't help when Sadiq said TfL gains the most advertising revenue out of any transport body in the world (his words, don't know if exaggeration or not). I thought TfL had a £800m deficit to fill, today's proposals certainly won't help to that effort. I'd have to totally agree with him, obviously tobacco adverts were quite rightly banned years ago so why shouldn't junk food adverts be? I think any loss in advertising revenue is irrelevant.
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on May 11, 2018 11:47:47 GMT
I'm sure some of you have already seen this story today on the Junk Food ban. Thoughts? Immediately I thought about the loss of revenue from this scheme; it didn't help when Sadiq said TfL gains the most advertising revenue out of any transport body in the world (his words, don't know if exaggeration or not). I thought TfL had a £800m deficit to fill, today's proposals certainly won't help to that effort. I'd have to totally agree with him, obviously tobacco adverts were quite rightly banned years ago so why shouldn't junk food adverts be? I think any loss in advertising revenue is irrelevant. Loss in advertising revenue is irrelevant bus loss due to the Hopper Fare is? Money is money end of the day. If TfL feel the need to do this then they can go ahead however I only see it causing a decrease in revenue and nothing else, people won't stop buying junk food just because the buses carry less advertising on them.
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Post by sid on May 11, 2018 11:52:46 GMT
I'd have to totally agree with him, obviously tobacco adverts were quite rightly banned years ago so why shouldn't junk food adverts be? I think any loss in advertising revenue is irrelevant. Loss in advertising revenue is irrelevant bus loss due to the Hopper Fare is? Money is money end of the day. If TfL feel the need to do this then they can go ahead however I only see it causing a decrease in revenue and nothing else, people won't stop buying junk food just because the buses carry less advertising on them. Maybe it will cause a loss of revenue but surely the health issues, and indeed the costs to the NHS, are more important? I'm sure people won't stop buying junk food overnight but there is likely to be some reduction over a period of time.
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