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Post by SILENCED on May 11, 2018 12:39:09 GMT
I'd have to totally agree with him, obviously tobacco adverts were quite rightly banned years ago so why shouldn't junk food adverts be? I think any loss in advertising revenue is irrelevant. Loss in advertising revenue is irrelevant bus loss due to the Hopper Fare is? Money is money end of the day. If TfL feel the need to do this then they can go ahead however I only see it causing a decrease in revenue and nothing else, people won't stop buying junk food just because the buses carry less advertising on them. If by banning adverts for unhealthy foods does not reduce the number of people eating them ... why do companies feel the need to spend £m's advertising them? And who is to say there will not be an alternative revenue stream, as another company is likely to by the advertising space ... or those companies can advertise products other than unhealthy foods
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Post by enviroPB on May 11, 2018 13:22:39 GMT
I'd have to totally agree with him, obviously tobacco adverts were quite rightly banned years ago so why shouldn't junk food adverts be? I think any loss in advertising revenue is irrelevant. Loss in advertising revenue is irrelevant bus loss due to the Hopper Fare is? Money is money end of the day. If TfL feel the need to do this then they can go ahead however I only see it causing a decrease in revenue and nothing else, people won't stop buying junk food just because the buses carry less advertising on them. It's not TfL at the helm of this scheme, it's the Mayor. They certainly don't want to see a loss of revenue (fast food companies make up a heavy proportion of ads on the network). If it does go through, yes there may be a small decrease in obesity figures in the long haul, but other factors will definitely play a part. At the end of the day, the hordes of McDonald's and Subway stores will still be found on high streets, with chicken & chip shops on every street corner for kids to choose their poison from. Sadiq Khan is so desperate to leave a legacy from his term as Mayor, right now his legacy looks like the decimation of Transport for London.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2018 16:06:56 GMT
Just got off the 54 where there was a major kerfuffle involving some kids and a ticket inspector on the upper deck.
the inspector was alerted to the fact that the kids hadn't Tapped In by someone behind me downstairs so he went upstairs and what preceded was shouting banging and swearing...the kids came streaming down, pressed the emergency button and ran out.
there were several of them (more than 10 and girls too) and I presume they gave the inspector a beating which is unfortunate.
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Post by sid on May 11, 2018 17:17:06 GMT
Loss in advertising revenue is irrelevant bus loss due to the Hopper Fare is? Money is money end of the day. If TfL feel the need to do this then they can go ahead however I only see it causing a decrease in revenue and nothing else, people won't stop buying junk food just because the buses carry less advertising on them. It's not TfL at the helm of this scheme, it's the Mayor. They certainly don't want to see a loss of revenue (fast food companies make up a heavy proportion of ads on the network). If it does go through, yes there may be a small decrease in obesity figures in the long haul, but other factors will definitely play a part. At the end of the day, the hordes of McDonald's and Subway stores will still be found on high streets, with chicken & chip shops on every street corner for kids to choose their poison from. Sadiq Khan is so desperate to leave a legacy from his term as Mayor, right now his legacy looks like the decimation of Transport for London. How many junk food ads are there on TfL buses? I don't really take too much notice of adverts but I kept an eye open whilst in Central London this afternoon and all I noticed was a (sugar free) coca cola advert and a subway advert, I don't know whether they fit the criteria? I don't think there are any all over junk food adverts? It's probably only a matter of time before there is new legislation on them anyway.
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Post by galwhv69 on May 11, 2018 18:06:18 GMT
Definitely random but here goes: Is there anywhere where I can get a .otf or .ttf file format font that looks like the iBus screen or something similar. Looking for something like this: www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdtTCbhq-A4&t=12sThanks in advance
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Post by galwhv69 on May 11, 2018 19:08:57 GMT
Definitely random but here goes: Is there anywhere where I can get a .otf or .ttf file format font that looks like the iBus screen or something similar. Looking for something like this: www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdtTCbhq-A4&t=12sThanks in advance No need anymore,just found something similar as freeware on a fonts website
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Post by vjaska on May 11, 2018 21:26:00 GMT
As someone who regularly eats lots of junk food, you can ban as many adverts as you like but if people want it, they will go and get it. Politicians and so called experts are going the wrong way about it when it comes to it - if you really want to make a difference, then education not banning junk food adverts and making healthy meals cheaper then junk food are the way forward and not by implementing silly sugar taxes either which as usual hit the poorest hardest. Fruit & vegetables may be at reasonable prices but many poorer families sadly don’t have that time anymore to prepare meals as they’re usually holding down multiple jobs to scrape some sort of income together so some healthy already prepared meals would be a great start.
Same with the alcohol price increase in Scotland - a waste of time that is given its professionals like lawyers who drink far more than the poorest and they don’t drink Frosty Jack & other cheap alcohol either that’s the drink Scotland has increased prices on.
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Post by RandomBusesGirl on May 11, 2018 22:28:22 GMT
My Major Crush is into this stuff, so hearing about this will definitely make them smile And well, me too... 😚 To be fair why not. Junk food is bad for you, and although the effect will be small, there definitely will be some. I can't stand McDonalds and will not even have a salad from them - lord knows what they add to it. I only accept coke/pepsi and chocolate muffins as these are the same everywhere. As for the lost revenue, I don't think so - other stuff will still be advertised so I don't think there will be any difference. Also have y'all noticed how the quality of many adverts dropped recently? I think I mentioned this before but yea. Especially the aggressive vegan adverts and some religious stuff was something you'd not have seen on a London bus before.
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Post by vjaska on May 11, 2018 22:55:24 GMT
My Major Crush is into this stuff, so hearing about this will definitely make them smile And well, me too... 😚 To be fair why not. Junk food is bad for you, and although the effect will be small, there definitely will be some. I can't stand McDonalds and will not even have a salad from them - lord knows what they add to it. I only accept coke/pepsi and chocolate muffins as these are the same everywhere. As for the lost revenue, I don't think so - other stuff will still be advertised so I don't think there will be any difference. Also have y'all noticed how the quality of many adverts dropped recently? I think I mentioned this before but yea. Especially the aggressive vegan adverts and some religious stuff was something you'd not have seen on a London bus before. On the drinks front, that's something I was sort of forced to give up (thankfully not down to anything like diabetes or anything similar) so I really only drink Coke or Pepsi when mixed with alcohol - when I'm not drinking, it's Water, Tea or Coffee (the latter with no sugar in)
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on May 12, 2018 13:05:11 GMT
With various takeovers and reorganisations by current London bus owners, we could eventually have only 8 or 9 interior specs for London buses:-
Abellio Arriva Go-Ahead Metroline RATP (with no distinction any more for Quality Line) Stagecoach Tower Transit Uno (presuming they retain route 383 or other TfL bus work) LT spec / CT Plus / Sullivan
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Post by Green Kitten on May 13, 2018 6:50:03 GMT
for once, the N91 was right on time at Trafalgar Square to pick me up! 😎
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2018 9:25:15 GMT
As someone who regularly eats lots of junk food, you can ban as many adverts as you like but if people want it, they will go and get it. Politicians and so called experts are going the wrong way about it when it comes to it - if you really want to make a difference, then education not banning junk food adverts and making healthy meals cheaper then junk food are the way forward and not by implementing silly sugar taxes either which as usual hit the poorest hardest. Fruit & vegetables may be at reasonable prices but many poorer families sadly don’t have that time anymore to prepare meals as they’re usually holding down multiple jobs to scrape some sort of income together so some healthy already prepared meals would be a great start. Same with the alcohol price increase in Scotland - a waste of time that is given its professionals like lawyers who drink far more than the poorest and they don’t drink Frosty Jack & other cheap alcohol either that’s the drink Scotland has increased prices on. I think it's a bit messed up to be spending time and effort worrying about people having a burger and chips, when there are people out there getting stabbed and having acid thrown over them. They need to get their priorities in order.
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Post by bookd on May 13, 2018 18:22:23 GMT
I can't see what the ban is meant to achieve - it is evidently meant to target youth obesity, but it is hard to imagine a youth who has never heard of, say, Macdonalds or Coke but decided to give them a try because of an advert on a bus.
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Post by sid on May 13, 2018 18:32:08 GMT
I can't see what the ban is meant to achieve - it is evidently meant to target youth obesity, but it is hard to imagine a youth who has never heard of, say, Macdonalds or Coke but decided to give them a try because of an advert on a bus. Well the obvious question is, if advertising doesn't achieve very much then why do junk food manufacturers spend so much money on it? Having said that I've not noticed many such adverts on TfL buses and trains, has anybody else? I suspect there will be legislation on junk food advertising before too long anyway.
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Post by vjaska on May 13, 2018 19:10:34 GMT
I can't see what the ban is meant to achieve - it is evidently meant to target youth obesity, but it is hard to imagine a youth who has never heard of, say, Macdonalds or Coke but decided to give them a try because of an advert on a bus. Indeed, more likely they'll be enticed by word of mouth from friends or families or even more so from walking past a fast food place - well that's how I'm normally tempted in anyway
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