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Post by dannyl1989 on May 23, 2018 17:36:55 GMT
How on earth will BK run the 179 on time when T can't. This route is always delayed and you find buses bunching. Surprised stagecoach retained it quite honestly.
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Post by MoEnviro on May 23, 2018 17:59:17 GMT
Disrupted services also include multiple 21s, 43s and 141s turning at Moorgate ... I'm quite fed up with these diversions and constant traffic in the area. It seems like the various gas and roadworks are never ending. The gas works in Monument have been going on for months, and since closing off King William Street to southbound traffic all the services have been beyond unreliable 🙄 I am not surprised, London Bridge Northbound was stationary this afternoon around 16:30 and that was just buses
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Post by ThinLizzy on May 23, 2018 18:04:34 GMT
How on earth will BK run the 179 on time when T can't. This route is always delayed and you find buses bunching. Surprised stagecoach retained it quite honestly. Because BK isn't that far from the route, probably closer than T.... Apart from a brief period running from NP, the route had been run from a garage at the eastern end of the route since at least 1987 The 179 has always been a tricky little sausage to run, even going back to the days of Capital Citybus.
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Post by routew15 on May 23, 2018 18:17:14 GMT
The roadworks at Cannon Street / Eastcheap are absolutely ridiculous, they cause so much havoc during peak hours to bus routes serving the City. I respect these works must be challenging due to the complex and ancient nature of underground utilities , mains and services but the works only appear to be carried out during an extremely limited window of working hours (from observations 8-4.30). By the time the works have been completed they would of taken nearly half a year, cannot imagine the damage this has done to performance levels, let alone patronage levels. Is this the Gas leak that they couldn't find? so ended up digging up most of Bank, Cannon Street and Monument to find it... Yeah that's the one. The set of works that conks out the City
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Post by busoccultation on May 23, 2018 18:19:27 GMT
How on earth will BK run the 179 on time when T can't. This route is always delayed and you find buses bunching. Surprised stagecoach retained it quite honestly. Me as regular user on the 179 and several routes that run by BK mainly the 169 and 462, I think BK will run it better than T as its closer to its Ilford terminus and I don't usually have many issues with most of the BK routes, OK that sometimes things do go wrong as 169 is prone to traffic at Newbury Park & Ilford Lane and 462 don't have much recovery time at peak hours. Plus its likely will eliminate those stupid Gants Hill changeovers of which some changeovers do happen there. As for bunching on the 179 I don't see them bunching too often, but one of things bug me that the 123 & 179 running them together on the common section when they supposed to give a 5/6 headway between the two routes when in the reality it's usually a 10 or so minutes wait along the Woodford Avenue then two comes up at the same time. Personally one of the problems of Leyton running the 179 is sometimes I think that they over-focusing too much on the 55 & 56 making sure that the 55 & 56 are on even headway and then forget rest of the routes at Leyton.
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Post by dannyl1989 on May 23, 2018 19:04:21 GMT
How on earth will BK run the 179 on time when T can't. This route is always delayed and you find buses bunching. Surprised stagecoach retained it quite honestly. Me as regular user on the 179 and several routes that run by BK mainly the 169 and 462, I think BK will run it better than T as its closer to its Ilford terminus and I don't usually have many issues with most of the BK routes, OK that sometimes things do go wrong as 169 is prone to traffic at Newbury Park & Ilford Lane and 462 don't have much recovery time at peak hours. Plus its likely will eliminate those stupid Gants Hill changeovers of which some changeovers do happen there. As for bunching on the 179 I don't see them bunching too often, but one of things bug me that the 123 & 179 running them together on the common section when they supposed to give a 5/6 headway between the two routes when in the reality it's usually a 10 or so minutes wait along the Woodford Avenue then two comes up at the same time. Personally one of the problems of Leyton running the 179 is sometimes I think that they over-focusing too much on the 55 & 56 making sure that the 55 & 56 are on even headway and then forget rest of the routes at Leyton. Yeah I use the route to get to chingford Mount. Sometimes I get the 123 to the bell and change or 179 to chingford and change. Both routes always seem to be delayed. I assume it is down the A406 most times. Today I waited for almost 40mins for a 179 at station road in Chingford then 3 arrived together. It happens quite regularly in the evenings. Usually 2 arrive together.
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Post by vjaska on May 23, 2018 22:35:20 GMT
Me as regular user on the 179 and several routes that run by BK mainly the 169 and 462, I think BK will run it better than T as its closer to its Ilford terminus and I don't usually have many issues with most of the BK routes, OK that sometimes things do go wrong as 169 is prone to traffic at Newbury Park & Ilford Lane and 462 don't have much recovery time at peak hours. Plus its likely will eliminate those stupid Gants Hill changeovers of which some changeovers do happen there. As for bunching on the 179 I don't see them bunching too often, but one of things bug me that the 123 & 179 running them together on the common section when they supposed to give a 5/6 headway between the two routes when in the reality it's usually a 10 or so minutes wait along the Woodford Avenue then two comes up at the same time. Personally one of the problems of Leyton running the 179 is sometimes I think that they over-focusing too much on the 55 & 56 making sure that the 55 & 56 are on even headway and then forget rest of the routes at Leyton. Yeah I use the route to get to chingford Mount. Sometimes I get the 123 to the bell and change or 179 to chingford and change. Both routes always seem to be delayed. I assume it is down the A406 most times. Today I waited for almost 40mins for a 179 at station road in Chingford then 3 arrived together. It happens quite regularly in the evenings. Usually 2 arrive together. When you add in the A406 plus Gants Hill & even Cranbrook Road, it’s no wonder these routes are difficult to operate.
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Post by busoccultation on May 24, 2018 6:48:24 GMT
Yeah I use the route to get to chingford Mount. Sometimes I get the 123 to the bell and change or 179 to chingford and change. Both routes always seem to be delayed. I assume it is down the A406 most times. Today I waited for almost 40mins for a 179 at station road in Chingford then 3 arrived together. It happens quite regularly in the evenings. Usually 2 arrive together. When you add in the A406 plus Gants Hill & even Cranbrook Road, it’s no wonder these routes are difficult to operate. Sometimes its the approach towards Charlie Brown's Roundabout from either directions, towards Ilford it can be queuing traffic up to the Chigwell Road/George Lane junction and towards Chingford the tailback can go all the to Woodford Avenue (Woodford Bridge Road Stop). Even the routes that stay in particular area like the 462 can sometimes can be difficult to operate due to area close proximity to the A12 and A406.
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Post by Nathan on May 24, 2018 9:55:39 GMT
Disrupted services also include multiple 21s, 43s and 141s turning at Moorgate ... I'm quite fed up with these diversions and constant traffic in the area. It seems like the various gas and roadworks are never ending. The gas works in Monument have been going on for months, and since closing off King William Street to southbound traffic all the services have been beyond unreliable 🙄 I am not surprised, London Bridge Northbound was stationary this afternoon around 16:30 and that was just buses Even in the mornings it can be the same. I was forced to get off at London Bridge on the way to work on Monday and get the tube two stops simply because the traffic was horrendous. Something needs to be done, if anything.
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Post by 725DYE on May 24, 2018 19:34:40 GMT
So I was sorta running behind this morning and ended up getting the 127 after the one I usually do - this might not seem so bad but morning traffic means that the 127 doesn't exactly stick to its so-called 12 min frequency in the peaks but nothing to worry about. I was hoping for a quick journey and then I'd have nothing to worry about. When I got on I kinda recognised the driver - its a bit hard with the 127 there are a lot of drivers. Its not like my other local routes like the 166, 463 or S1 where a regular passenger tends to see drivers on a more regular basis. So this driver leans to face some people near the back of the bus by the exit door and shouts "IF YOU DO THAT AGAIN YOU'LL BE OFF MY BUS!" - I'm not the most alert person in the morning so I was relatively bewildered So as we kept going on it became apparent that this driver wasn't happy about people standing near the rear doorway. Multiple times he used the PA to tell people to move away from that space. Now I'm sorry but who does this guy think he is . Its the morning peak and the bus is packed, you can't just expect everyone to move out of the door space even when no one is trying to get off. The driver said it was slowing him down but by making all this fuss it was actually him slowing us down more! Some people eh?
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Post by sid on May 24, 2018 20:22:20 GMT
So I was sorta running behind this morning and ended up getting the 127 after the one I usually do - this might not seem so bad but morning traffic means that the 127 doesn't exactly stick to its so-called 12 min frequency in the peaks  but nothing to worry about. I was hoping for a quick journey and then I'd have nothing to worry about. When I got on I kinda recognised the driver - its a bit hard with the 127 there are a lot of drivers. Its not like my other local routes like the 166, 463 or S1 where a regular passenger tends to see drivers on a more regular basis. So this driver leans to face some people near the back of the bus by the exit door and shouts "IF YOU DO THAT AGAIN YOU'LL BE OFF MY BUS!" - I'm not the most alert person in the morning so I was relatively bewildered So as we kept going on it became apparent that this driver wasn't happy about people standing near the rear doorway. Multiple times he used the PA to tell people to move away from that space. Now I'm sorry but who does this guy think he is . Its the morning peak and the bus is packed, you can't just expect everyone to move out of the door space even when no one is trying to get off. The driver said it was slowing him down but by making all this fuss it was actually him slowing us down more! Some people eh? Sounds like an absolute idiot quite honestly and I'd suggest reporting him. tfl.gov.uk/help-and-contact/contact-us-about-bus-staff
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Post by vjaska on May 24, 2018 22:42:08 GMT
So I was sorta running behind this morning and ended up getting the 127 after the one I usually do - this might not seem so bad but morning traffic means that the 127 doesn't exactly stick to its so-called 12 min frequency in the peaks  but nothing to worry about. I was hoping for a quick journey and then I'd have nothing to worry about. When I got on I kinda recognised the driver - its a bit hard with the 127 there are a lot of drivers. Its not like my other local routes like the 166, 463 or S1 where a regular passenger tends to see drivers on a more regular basis. So this driver leans to face some people near the back of the bus by the exit door and shouts "IF YOU DO THAT AGAIN YOU'LL BE OFF MY BUS!" - I'm not the most alert person in the morning so I was relatively bewildered So as we kept going on it became apparent that this driver wasn't happy about people standing near the rear doorway. Multiple times he used the PA to tell people to move away from that space. Now I'm sorry but who does this guy think he is . Its the morning peak and the bus is packed, you can't just expect everyone to move out of the door space even when no one is trying to get off. The driver said it was slowing him down but by making all this fuss it was actually him slowing us down more! Some people eh? I used to have that issue on the 417 when I was at school - I just ignored them. Funnily enough, drivers on the 2 (same garage and all that) never said a word.
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Post by DOE27 on May 25, 2018 7:05:36 GMT
Does anyone know what’s happening with the real time info?
Seems to have affected London United / Quality Line initally in which the buses seem to finish journey’s in 5 minutes when it should take considerably longer.
Looking at the 410 now one journey is showing 23 minutes from Crystal Palace to Wallington - so is it now affecting Arriva?
If you don’t understand what I’m talking about just look up a countdown for a London United route and you’ll see what I mean.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2018 15:53:57 GMT
That 7min hasn't moved in 10mins and its only going half way. No thru bus to Hackers for over 20mins (+10 waiting) in the Friday PM peak. Welcome to Walthamstow, meet Mini Holland, he'll be your guide...
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Post by snoggle on May 25, 2018 16:02:27 GMT
Does anyone know what’s happening with the real time info? Seems to have affected London United / Quality Line initally in which the buses seem to finish journey’s in 5 minutes when it should take considerably longer. Looking at the 410 now one journey is showing 23 minutes from Crystal Palace to Wallington - so is it now affecting Arriva? If you don’t understand what I’m talking about just look up a countdown for a London United route and you’ll see what I mean. Looks like TfL have finally twigged.
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