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Post by joefrombow on Sept 13, 2018 19:38:45 GMT
Do operators lose mileage if turns are not logged on ibus waited for a 108 turned up on 3 minutes late ibus says it's going to Stratford International but the bus is only going to Bow Church ? Didn't think 3 minutes late would justify a turn ?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2018 19:58:16 GMT
Do operators lose mileage if turns are not logged on ibus waited for a 108 turned up on 3 minutes late ibus says it's going to Stratford International but the bus is only going to Bow Church ? Didn't think 3 minutes late would justify a turn ? Yes they would lose the mileage, and they would be fined as it did not have a curtailment entered. How to you know it's only 3 minutes late? Very unlikely it would be turned if so. |
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Post by jamirie on Sept 13, 2018 20:00:58 GMT
Do operators lose mileage if turns are not logged on ibus waited for a 108 turned up on 3 minutes late ibus says it's going to Stratford International but the bus is only going to Bow Church ? Didn't think 3 minutes late would justify a turn ? The bus was probably running late on it's last journey. I bus predicts the buses departure time without allowing time for the driver to check the bus, change the blind and ticket machine, complete log card etc. As for self curtailment, I don't think any driver would risk it these day's. The bus was probably finishing service at Stratford International. A single trip curtailment cannot be programmed into the I bus, a fault that has been there since it was introduced. |
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Post by vjaska on Sept 13, 2018 22:09:11 GMT
This is one of the reasons why I like the NRM. It only buzzes after the first person has pressed the bell. Anyone else who presses it after, prior to the doors opening, doesn't set off the bell to ring excessively, like most other buses. Had noticed that when I saw one of the kids pressing the request button at least twenty times in succession but where the bell only rung three or four times during his effort. It appears that the bell can only ring once every few seconds. A pity this feature wasn't included years ago on other Wrightbus bodies like the early WVLs I used to drive and likewise the early DWs with Arriva (which I'd loved to have driven). Isn’t it because the LT’s use wireless bells and the connection on them can be poor at times resulting in the bell not ringing when pressed - certainly had a number of LT’s where the bell doesn’t work |
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Post by redbus on Sept 13, 2018 22:21:56 GMT
I was on a 233 a few years ago during rush hour and the school kids wouldn't stop pushing the bell. The driver pulled into Old Maidstone Road just before Swanley, turned off the engine and went into a rage. When someone presses the bell and nobody gets off i just sit at the stop for a while unless someone apologises for the mistake. The way i see it is if you want to waste my time i'll waste everyone elses. Day in day out i find a lot of people delay buses unnecessarily such as the common one with the bus pass being searched for on the platform or someone holding you up for a person half a mile down the road! I had one lady the other day get on and go immediately to the front seats searching for her pass she shouted driver go i have the pass somewhere i replied no its ok ill wait. She apologised to the other passengers, after quite a while another passenger came up shouting driver go to the next stop ive got a train to catch in which i replied not until she presents a pass. She touched her pass and said you have held up the entire bus. Not one person said anything to her yet i got the blame :/ I am sure that on some of Metroline TEs you can only ring the bell once (after that pressing the button does nothing) until the bus stops and the exit doors open. I like that idea 
I was always taught to take care when to ring the bell, not too early in case the driver forgets I rung it, not too late so the driver has plenty of time to stop. People need to learn that lesson
Another thing that irritates me as a passenger is people ringing the bell after the doors have closed and as the bus is about the drive away. Are they ringing it for the next stop (usually the case), or are they wanting to get off at the current (or should I say last) stop. If you want to get off the bus, be sure you are ready to get off when the bus pulls up, those with mobility issues excepted.
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Post by joefrombow on Sept 13, 2018 22:59:05 GMT
Do operators lose mileage if turns are not logged on ibus waited for a 108 turned up on 3 minutes late ibus says it's going to Stratford International but the bus is only going to Bow Church ? Didn't think 3 minutes late would justify a turn ? The bus was probably running late on it's last journey. I bus predicts the buses departure time without allowing time for the driver to check the bus, change the blind and ticket machine, complete log card etc. As for self curtailment, I don't think any driver would risk it these day's. The bus was probably finishing service at Stratford International. A single trip curtailment cannot be programmed into the I bus, a fault that has been there since it was introduced. Yes it did as it went NIS and headed south down towards the Tunnel at the roundabout thanks for the information . |
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Post by M1104 on Sept 14, 2018 9:39:15 GMT
Had noticed that when I saw one of the kids pressing the request button at least twenty times in succession but where the bell only rung three or four times during his effort. It appears that the bell can only ring once every few seconds. A pity this feature wasn't included years ago on other Wrightbus bodies like the early WVLs I used to drive and likewise the early DWs with Arriva (which I'd loved to have driven). Isn’t it because the LT’s use wireless bells and the connection on them can be poor at times resulting in the bell not ringing when pressed - certainly had a number of LT’s where the bell doesn’t work I can't say that I really paid too much attention to their bells one way or another otherwise. |
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Post by mattch on Sept 14, 2018 15:18:41 GMT
Another thing that irritates me as a passenger is people ringing the bell after the doors have closed and as the bus is about the drive away. Are they ringing it for the next stop (usually the case), or are they wanting to get off at the current (or should I say last) stop. If you want to get off the bus, be sure you are ready to get off when the bus pulls up, those with mobility issues excepted.
As an additional one to this, what about the ones who ring the bell just before you get to a stop (as in you're almost touching it) do they actually want that stop and the driver has to slam the brakes on for fear of being reported for failing to stop, or do they actually (and in most cases) want the next one in which case why can't you wait for 2 seconds to press it after you've cleared the current one??? |
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Post by londonbusboy on Sept 14, 2018 16:16:52 GMT
Another thing that irritates me as a passenger is people ringing the bell after the doors have closed and as the bus is about the drive away. Are they ringing it for the next stop (usually the case), or are they wanting to get off at the current (or should I say last) stop. If you want to get off the bus, be sure you are ready to get off when the bus pulls up, those with mobility issues excepted.
As an additional one to this, what about the ones who ring the bell just before you get to a stop (as in you're almost touching it) do they actually want that stop and the driver has to slam the brakes on for fear of being reported for failing to stop, or do they actually (and in most cases) want the next one in which case why can't you wait for 2 seconds to press it after you've cleared the current one??? I've done that, harsh brake to stop then nobody gets off. I dont do that anymore though. |
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Post by londonbusboy on Sept 14, 2018 16:29:55 GMT
When someone presses the bell and nobody gets off i just sit at the stop for a while unless someone apologises for the mistake. The way i see it is if you want to waste my time i'll waste everyone elses. Day in day out i find a lot of people delay buses unnecessarily such as the common one with the bus pass being searched for on the platform or someone holding you up for a person half a mile down the road! I had one lady the other day get on and go immediately to the front seats searching for her pass she shouted driver go i have the pass somewhere i replied no its ok ill wait. She apologised to the other passengers, after quite a while another passenger came up shouting driver go to the next stop ive got a train to catch in which i replied not until she presents a pass. She touched her pass and said you have held up the entire bus. Not one person said anything to her yet i got the blame :/ I am sure that on some of Metroline TEs you can only ring the bell once (after that pressing the button does nothing) until the bus stops and the exit doors open. I like that idea
I was always taught to take care when to ring the bell, not too early in case the driver forgets I rung it, not too late so the driver has plenty of time to stop. People need to learn that lesson
Another thing that irritates me as a passenger is people ringing the bell after the doors have closed and as the bus is about the drive away. Are they ringing it for the next stop (usually the case), or are they wanting to get off at the current (or should I say last) stop. If you want to get off the bus, be sure you are ready to get off when the bus pulls up, those with mobility issues excepted.
Yeah with people today now glued into their mobiles they suddenly wake up and realise its their stop when you have closed the doors. They then have the audacity to shout at you to open the doors. Someone mentioned about drivers accusing passengers of not pressing the bell i can say ive driven 2012 enviro 200s and they do occasionally not show a symbol on the drivers dashboard even though the bell has been pressed. I rely on that dashboard symbol as i tend to block out rattles,bells etc |
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Post by sid on Sept 14, 2018 17:38:18 GMT
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Post by sid on Sept 14, 2018 17:42:57 GMT
As an additional one to this, what about the ones who ring the bell just before you get to a stop (as in you're almost touching it) do they actually want that stop and the driver has to slam the brakes on for fear of being reported for failing to stop, or do they actually (and in most cases) want the next one in which case why can't you wait for 2 seconds to press it after you've cleared the current one??? I've done that, harsh brake to stop then nobody gets off. I dont do that anymore though. And you stop and then it turns out that they actually want the next stop, had that a few times! |
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Post by vjaska on Sept 14, 2018 19:49:52 GMT
No surprise to see Brixton at the top - it’s long been a massive interchange between bus & bus and bus & tube. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2018 11:02:04 GMT
I'm so glad the halt sign on the citaro dash has been mentioned. It's true, on one of our routes a section of road is so bad it rattles the crap out of the bus and 9/10 times you don't hear the bell. Then the screen doesn't show a halt sign so what am I to do?? Lol.
We have an old Volvo that sounds like someone is beeping a car horn at you and then you notice a stop sign and your like 'oh it's the bell'.
Being new I was stopping for late pressers, not anymore. I was also stopping for late hailers. Well I slow down and give them a chance and if they do nothing I drive on. The amount of people who sit and stare at their phone whilst I approach is crazy. Then they suddenly jump up and run out with arm stretched out. See ya!
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Post by wirewiper on Sept 15, 2018 12:06:32 GMT
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I was always taught to take care when to ring the bell, not too early in case the driver forgets I rung it, not too late so the driver has plenty of time to stop. People need to learn that lesson
<snip> "Not too early in case the driver forgets" doesn't really apply any more as a light now appears on the driver's dashboard once the bell has been rung. |
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