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Post by busaholic on Sept 23, 2018 20:09:24 GMT
This is the nonsense that happens when you reorganise things in a poor way and let all the experienced people leave. It will take TfL 2 years to recover from its latest reorganisation by which time it will be embarking on its next one. Seen it umpteen times.  Perhaps the experienced people were paid too well so they've been withdrawn from service?  About six years ago I was told by someone prominent in the London bus preservation movement who knew Peter Hendy and Leon Daniels exceedingly well that the only reason neither gentleman had retired (as they were entitled to do, on almost full pension) or move on to other, perhaps less stressful, things was that they had so little confidence in the people in line to take their places that, for the sake of not seeing their life's work destroyed in easy stages, they felt compelled to carry on! Even allowing for the hyperbole, I suspect there was more than a hint of truthfulness in that. I've never met Daniels, but knew Hendy slightly a while back, in his pre-Commissioner days, and, before that, both of his parents, so I've followed his career over the last thirty years with interest. I've no idea who the people making the decisions now are, and what makes them confident in thinking they know what they're doing. If things were opaque 40/50 years ago, I can't imagine they're any better now!! |
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Post by capitalomnibus on Sept 23, 2018 20:19:47 GMT
Finally ... a very relevant issue! In my experience, a fairly significant number of buses are freezing in winter. Not sure why but with no heating it makes for a very chilly experience. Wonder how the drivers cope with it? The cab heating generally tends to work as without it, the windscreen would mist up, not much comfort to passengers however, most of the time all the saloon heating needs is a new sensor. The early E400 euro 4 and E200 were much better for passenger saloon heating and were very toasty. The newer euro5 were to a revised TfL spec and doesn't turn the saloon heating on until outside is below 10 degrees C. Some of the newer ones only turn on when outside is below 5 deg C. Cab heating is on a different matrix.
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Post by capitalomnibus on Sept 23, 2018 21:33:31 GMT
This is one of the reasons why I like the NRM. It only buzzes after the first person has pressed the bell. Anyone else who presses it after, prior to the doors opening, doesn't set off the bell to ring excessively, like most other buses. Congratulations, you've found a selling point for the NRM.  The E400 City also does this, takes a few seconds before the bell can be rung again. The most annoying is Gemini 1 and 2. So flipping loud and could be constantly rung. |
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Post by capitalomnibus on Sept 23, 2018 21:49:20 GMT
Do operators lose mileage if turns are not logged on ibus waited for a 108 turned up on 3 minutes late ibus says it's going to Stratford International but the bus is only going to Bow Church ? Didn't think 3 minutes late would justify a turn ? It could be a variety of things why the bus is turned. Doesn't always mean it is down to traffic. Could be vomit on board, mechanical problem etc. |
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Post by capitalomnibus on Sept 23, 2018 21:50:45 GMT
Do operators lose mileage if turns are not logged on ibus waited for a 108 turned up on 3 minutes late ibus says it's going to Stratford International but the bus is only going to Bow Church ? Didn't think 3 minutes late would justify a turn ? Yes they would lose the mileage, and they would be fined as it did not have a curtailment entered. How to you know it's only 3 minutes late? Very unlikely it would be turned if so. No they wouldn't be fined if the curtailment wasn't entered into the ibus. Mileage is also checked against duty card and mileage tracker. |
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Post by capitalomnibus on Sept 23, 2018 21:52:02 GMT
Is this my luck or something, I revise for the car theory test and the questions that pop up are the ones that I don't even know about. Any tips on how to pass a theory test guys, cos I want to become a bus driver ASAP. Be warned driving can be very expensive! Just got my latest insurance quote and it's £940 3rd party with 15 years no claim. Good luck though! d*mn I pay around less than a third of what you are paying, and I don't even have 15 years no claim. As I have switched and started new ventures various times. |
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Post by capitalomnibus on Sept 23, 2018 21:53:31 GMT
Something quite extraordinary occurred on my way home. I was on the 65 and we were waiting to pull out of the Watermans Centre bus stop when my driver honked several times at a 267 overtaking us. The driver of the 267 honked several times back and we pulled up beside him ready to turn right onto Ealing Road. The driver of the 267 then ferociously slammed open his cab window and proceeded to attack the near side mirror on our bus while swearing and shouting at our driver. He then showed us the finger and drove off. Obviously our driver could no longer see out of his left hand side mirror so had to get out of the cab and adjust it all over again. Second incident this week where I’ve witnessed two FW drivers screaming and swearing at each other for no apparent reason! Astonishing, it might well be a case for the police let alone TfL/RATP to investigate? Presumably this will all be on CCTV and it's hard to see any other option than instant dismissal. I've seen the occasional road rage incident between bus drivers, and it really does look so unprofessional, but never between drivers from the same garage. I really doubt the driver would be dismissed, unless he/she has warnings for a similar nature. All I could see it ending up in a final caution warning. |
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Post by sid on Sept 24, 2018 4:42:26 GMT
Astonishing, it might well be a case for the police let alone TfL/RATP to investigate? Presumably this will all be on CCTV and it's hard to see any other option than instant dismissal. I've seen the occasional road rage incident between bus drivers, and it really does look so unprofessional, but never between drivers from the same garage. I really doubt the driver would be dismissed, unless he/she has warnings for a similar nature. All I could see it ending up in a final caution warning. I'd be astounded if somebody kept their job after behaving like that in public whilst representing the company. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2018 6:34:04 GMT
Yes they would lose the mileage, and they would be fined as it did not have a curtailment entered. How to you know it's only 3 minutes late? Very unlikely it would be turned if so. No they wouldn't be fined if the curtailment wasn't entered into the ibus. Mileage is also checked against duty card and mileage tracker. Nah. I mean if the driver didn't enter in the curtailment then they would still be fined when they audit the mileage. |
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Post by capitalomnibus on Sept 24, 2018 20:42:12 GMT
No they wouldn't be fined if the curtailment wasn't entered into the ibus. Mileage is also checked against duty card and mileage tracker. Nah. I mean if the driver didn't enter in the curtailment then they would still be fined when they audit the mileage. No they would not, as they would see on the MTV mileage that the bus didn't timestamp the rest of the stops up to the terminus. The mileage loss should have also been logged by the controller. |
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Post by capitalomnibus on Sept 24, 2018 20:42:50 GMT
I really doubt the driver would be dismissed, unless he/she has warnings for a similar nature. All I could see it ending up in a final caution warning. I'd be astounded if somebody kept their job after behaving like that in public whilst representing the company. You would be surprised of incidents far worse than that and some are still within the job. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2018 5:34:16 GMT
Nah. I mean if the driver didn't enter in the curtailment then they would still be fined when they audit the mileage. No they would not, as they would see on the MTV mileage that the bus didn't timestamp the rest of the stops up to the terminus. The mileage loss should have also been logged by the controller. READ WHAT I WROTE: I said if the driver didn't enter the curtailment into the MDT THEY WOULD STILL GET FINED when TfL audit the mileage |
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Post by YY13VKP on Sept 25, 2018 9:51:45 GMT
No they would not, as they would see on the MTV mileage that the bus didn't timestamp the rest of the stops up to the terminus. The mileage loss should have also been logged by the controller. READ WHAT I WROTE: I said if the driver didn't enter the curtailment into the MDT THEY WOULD STILL GET FINED when TfL audit the mileage Calm down, there's no need to be aggressive. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2018 9:54:52 GMT
READ WHAT I WROTE: I said if the driver didn't enter the curtailment into the MDT THEY WOULD STILL GET FINED when TfL audit the mileage Calm down, there's no need to be aggressive. Not being aggressive just emphasising certain areas |
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Post by YY13VKP on Sept 25, 2018 10:01:20 GMT
Surprisingly while I've been in Huddersfield, I haven't seen a single Enviro 200 around  , and that's despite the fact that they are built in Yorkshire! It's all Wright Eclipse Single deckers round here and Streetlites, as well as plenty Optare Solos and Tempos, and also Plaxton Centros, which I've never seen in the flesh before. I'm quite surprised Wright didn't offer the Eclipse single decker to the London market and offered the Cadet and Streetlite instead |
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, and that's despite the fact that they are built in Yorkshire! It's all Wright Eclipse Single deckers round here and Streetlites, as well as plenty Optare Solos and Tempos, and also Plaxton Centros, which I've never seen in the flesh before. I'm quite surprised Wright didn't offer the Eclipse single decker to the London market and offered the Cadet and Streetlite instead