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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2009 18:20:55 GMT
Does anyone know of any operators (except London of course) which still prefer traditional roller destination blinds to the now common digital signs....
Imperial Buses of Rainham still prefer them, and all the buses have them in a London style.
Sullivan Buses, which did used to have a TfL contract, still seem the prefer the traditional blinds.
Also, the only large operator i can think of that still uses traditional roller blinds is Lothian Buses.
To be honest, I cant decide between blinds and digital displays.
Digital displays must be more expensive to purchase, but probably cheaper in the long run. Blinds have to be replaced every time there is a new route/destination change etc...
I am quite glad London has kept the blinds though, it does seem much clearer than digital displays, and you can still see the destination when the sun is bright!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2009 19:13:08 GMT
Does anyone know of any operators (except London of course) which still prefer traditional roller destination blinds to the now common digital signs.... Imperial Buses of Rainham still prefer them, and all the buses have them in a London style. Sullivan Buses, which did used to have a TfL contract, still seem the prefer the traditional blinds. Also, the only large operator i can think of that still uses traditional roller blinds is Lothian Buses. To be honest, I cant decide between blinds and digital displays. Digital displays must be more expensive to purchase, but probably cheaper in the long run. Blinds have to be replaced every time there is a new route/destination change etc... I am quite glad London has kept the blinds though, it does seem much clearer than digital displays, and you can still see the destination when the sun is bright! But terrible at nights |
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Post by vjaska on Oct 3, 2009 21:14:51 GMT
Does anyone know of any operators (except London of course) which still prefer traditional roller destination blinds to the now common digital signs.... Imperial Buses of Rainham still prefer them, and all the buses have them in a London style. Sullivan Buses, which did used to have a TfL contract, still seem the prefer the traditional blinds. Also, the only large operator i can think of that still uses traditional roller blinds is Lothian Buses. To be honest, I cant decide between blinds and digital displays. Digital displays must be more expensive to purchase, but probably cheaper in the long run. Blinds have to be replaced every time there is a new route/destination change etc... I am quite glad London has kept the blinds though, it does seem much clearer than digital displays, and you can still see the destination when the sun is bright! Lothian is a company built on tradition (plus it's one of the few council owned ops left) so that may be a reason why they still prefer standard blinds. |
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Post by dla389 on Oct 4, 2009 7:12:15 GMT
Does anyone know of any operators (except London of course) which still prefer traditional roller destination blinds to the now common digital signs.... Imperial Buses of Rainham still prefer them, and all the buses have them in a London style. Sullivan Buses, which did used to have a TfL contract, still seem the prefer the traditional blinds. Also, the only large operator i can think of that still uses traditional roller blinds is Lothian Buses. To be honest, I cant decide between blinds and digital displays. Digital displays must be more expensive to purchase, but probably cheaper in the long run. Blinds have to be replaced every time there is a new route/destination change etc... I am quite glad London has kept the blinds though, it does seem much clearer than digital displays, and you can still see the destination when the sun is bright! There are a few buses within metrobus's provincial fleet (crawley depot in west sussex) which are still using the traditional roller destination blinds, though a majority were recently fitted with digital destination displays. It is hoped that by the end of 2009, each and every bus within the entire fleet is to be fitted with digital destination displays as well as being fully low-floor, as I understand it. |
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Post by DLA 365 on Oct 4, 2009 12:14:31 GMT
Delaine of Bourne and Judd's Travel also use blinds. IIRC, Delaine may even be using the New Johnston (or similar) font for their blinds
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2009 15:09:04 GMT
I hate electronic blinds they don’t fit enough information steam up when it rains and scrolling text takes ages to read there only good at night.
The traditional blind is much better there is more information displayed easy to fix and changed. The traditional blind is the best only if the company’s maintain the blind properly.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2009 16:10:26 GMT
Some of Darts (the K-reg ones) on route 250 (Debden to Waltham Cross) still seem to have the same blinds which were used in County Bus days (mid-90s). They do look old and in need of replacement, but thats not bad going for almost a decade.
I cant see an electronic display lasting that long...if water leaks in will stop working, etc etc
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Post by john on Oct 6, 2009 0:18:41 GMT
Some of Darts (the K-reg ones) on route 250 (Debden to Waltham Cross) still seem to have the same blinds which were used in County Bus days (mid-90s). They do look old and in need of replacement, but thats not bad going for almost a decade. I cant see an electronic display lasting that long...if water leaks in will stop working, etc etc I've always hated electronic displays, but Ensign's do seem to show the way it SHOULD be done. Very informative, clear and has their scrolling information move fairly quickly. However, i don't think it would work in London based on boarding times between London and the home counties....personally |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2009 8:28:40 GMT
Some of Darts (the K-reg ones) on route 250 (Debden to Waltham Cross) still seem to have the same blinds which were used in County Bus days (mid-90s). They do look old and in need of replacement, but thats not bad going for almost a decade. I cant see an electronic display lasting that long...if water leaks in will stop working, etc etc I've always hated electronic displays, but Ensign's do seem to show the way it SHOULD be done. Very informative, clear and has their scrolling information move fairly quickly. However, i don't think it would work in London based on boarding times between London and the home counties....personally With you on this 100%! ;D ;D |
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Post by greeny253 on Oct 6, 2009 16:23:26 GMT
Some of Darts (the K-reg ones) on route 250 (Debden to Waltham Cross) still seem to have the same blinds which were used in County Bus days (mid-90s). They do look old and in need of replacement, but thats not bad going for almost a decade. I cant see an electronic display lasting that long...if water leaks in will stop working, etc etc I've always hated electronic displays, but Ensign's do seem to show the way it SHOULD be done. Very informative, clear and has their scrolling information move fairly quickly. However, i don't think it would work in London based on boarding times between London and the home counties....personally Whilst I agree that scrolling digital destination blinds would be inadequate in London I would just like to point out that the majority of passengers (not aimed at anyone on here  ) don't bother to look where the bus is going just it's number so it makes seemingly little difference whether buses have digital destination equipment or traditional blinds  |
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Post by Volvo on Oct 6, 2009 17:00:29 GMT
It could be general laziness or general mistake or day dreaming but alot of people do not look at the blinds full stop especially where buses are the same e.g 38/73 they get on the 38 and expect it to be the 73. I was on a 274 the other day heading to camden town from angel and a group of girls/boys got on and despite the ibus clearly saying 274 to Lancaster Gate several times before the bus reach Caledonian Road it was only at that point they realised it was not the 153 to Finsbury Park
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Post by greeny253 on Oct 6, 2009 18:10:57 GMT
It could be general laziness or general mistake or day dreaming but alot of people do not look at the blinds full stop especially where buses are the same e.g 38/73 they get on the 38 and expect it to be the 73. I was on a 274 the other day heading to camden town from angel and a group of girls/boys got on and despite the ibus clearly saying 274 to Lancaster Gate several times before the bus reach Caledonian Road it was only at that point they realised it was not the 153 to Finsbury Park And this is just typical of how lazy passengers are unfortunately. I had one occasion on a 165 where a lady looked up (not even at the blinds!) saw a single decker and stuck her arm out. It was only when the iBus announced "165 to Rainham, Abbey Wood Lane" she came up and said "You aren't a 372?"  Similarly having a double decker on the 165 prompts a LOT of stupid questions... One such I had was "Do you go to Roneo Corner?" to which I said "No, you want a 365" and got the response "Well what are you then?"!!!! despite having 165 in big yellow numbers all over the place We've also had drivers told their going the wrong way when they have a single decker on the 365 and people haven't bothered to look at the blinds just the bus type and assumed it's a 165 |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2009 0:57:00 GMT
blinds confuse people, i went to london and the amount of times i got on a bus thinking it was going somewhere and it was't, it was going the other way was just stupid...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2009 21:06:38 GMT
I live by one rule 50% of passengers are idiots 45% are lazy/ignorant/arrogant/scum and the other 5% are the type that thanks you/smiles/actually looks at you as they board.
A perfect example of this is on the 368 when returing dead to the garage its almost impossible to locate "not in service" on those blinds without arm ache so i put something silly like pitsea broadway or basildon etc and guess what some prat sticks their arm out and then still gives you the finger when you keep going.
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Post by greeny253 on Oct 9, 2009 16:26:08 GMT
I live by one rule 50% of passengers are idiots 45% are lazy/ignorant/arrogant/scum and the other 5% are the type that thanks you/smiles/actually looks at you as they board. A perfect example of this is on the 368 when returing dead to the garage its almost impossible to locate "not in service" on those blinds without arm ache so i put something silly like pitsea broadway or basildon etc and guess what some prat sticks their arm out and then still gives you the finger when you keep going. I once blinded one of the 256 buses at GY (front AND sides) as a 160 going to Catford and drove it the length of the 256 route (excepting I went up Whitchurch Road instead of following line of route) and STILL had people stick their arm out |
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) don't bother to look where the bus is going just it's number so it makes seemingly little difference whether buses have digital destination equipment or traditional blinds 
