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Post by LK65EBO on Oct 26, 2019 9:04:39 GMT
It even operated from to WD until it closed in 1987. I do think RATP are missing a trick at WD. Surely they could move some of the tourist buses out to NC. Especially as the Wandsworth area is a two horse race between Abellio and Go Ahead. Doesent the 220 go to Wandsworth?
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Post by kmkcheng on Oct 26, 2019 9:10:47 GMT
It even operated from to WD until it closed in 1987. I do think RATP are missing a trick at WD. Surely they could move some of the tourist buses out to NC. Especially as the Wandsworth area is a two horse race between Abellio and Go Ahead. Even if WD was used for TfL work, someone mentioned it has limited capacity so could only really take on one route so not exactly going to make much of an impact in Wandsworth with regards to competition
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Post by rif153 on Oct 26, 2019 9:12:49 GMT
I do think RATP are missing a trick at WD. Surely they could move some of the tourist buses out to NC. Especially as the Wandsworth area is a two horse race between Abellio and Go Ahead. Doesent the 220 go to Wandsworth? Yes, but that's besides the point. For the most part, Wandsworth is a two horse race between Go-Ahead who have AF, AL, and SW nearby - as South West London is Go-Ahead heartland. On the other hand, Abellio have QB just down the road. Whilst RATP have one route in Wandsworth, I'd hardly call them a major operator in the area, as RP is a long way from Wandsworth, and their other garages close by don't facilitate much competition for Wandsworth routes. Let's use the example of the 44, the chances of RATP winning it from V are miniscule, but the chances of RATP winning it from WD are a lot better than that of V. This same principle can be transferred to other routes serving Wandsworth; 87, 156, 270 etc.
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Post by rif153 on Oct 26, 2019 9:15:08 GMT
I do think RATP are missing a trick at WD. Surely they could move some of the tourist buses out to NC. Especially as the Wandsworth area is a two horse race between Abellio and Go Ahead. Even if WD was used for TfL work, someone mentioned it has limited capacity so could only really take on one route so not exactly going to make much an impact on Wandsworth with regards to competition I'm also not convinced about moving the tour fleet to NC. An advantage of WD is how close it is to Central London allowing for short dead runs for the tour buses, thus saving on fuel. This advantage is lost when you look at NC which is significantly further out thus losing some of the advantages of having a tour fleet run from WD.
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Post by vjaska on Oct 26, 2019 10:38:30 GMT
Even if WD was used for TfL work, someone mentioned it has limited capacity so could only really take on one route so not exactly going to make much an impact on Wandsworth with regards to competition I'm also not convinced about moving the tour fleet to NC. An advantage of WD is how close it is to Central London allowing for short dead runs for the tour buses, thus saving on fuel. This advantage is lost when you look at NC which is significantly further out thus losing some of the advantages of having a tour fleet run from WD. Some of the tour fleet is housed at Rainham just like it was under Arriva
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Post by LT 20181 on Oct 26, 2019 18:03:21 GMT
A small heads up. There’s been a swap in number plates on some buses: - DE 20033’s number plate is YX09 HKB, but today I’ve spotted carrying the number plate YX09 HKD on its front - Same for DE 20035, whose number plate is YX09 HKD, but today it’s been spotted carrying the number plate YX09 HKB on its front. Yeah..
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Oct 26, 2019 18:41:06 GMT
Doesent the 220 go to Wandsworth? Yes, but that's besides the point. For the most part, Wandsworth is a two horse race between Go-Ahead who have AF, AL, and SW nearby - as South West London is Go-Ahead heartland. On the other hand, Abellio have QB just down the road. Whilst RATP have one route in Wandsworth, I'd hardly call them a major operator in the area, as RP is a long way from Wandsworth, and their other garages close by don't facilitate much competition for Wandsworth routes. Let's use the example of the 44, the chances of RATP winning it from V are miniscule, but the chances of RATP winning it from WD are a lot better than that of V. This same principle can be transferred to other routes serving Wandsworth; 87, 156, 270 etc. Route 44 was the other main route operated from WD. Also, route 22 since B closed in 1985, and route 28 long had a WD allocation alongside X.
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Post by snowman on Oct 27, 2019 7:39:56 GMT
The LOTs weekly update mentions uncertainty over Bamford Bus restarting Wrightbus, but doesn’t include the 2 VHs for 681 in list of buses outstanding for London
not sure if this is oversight, and just got missed from update list, or if these two are now cancelled
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Post by snowman on Oct 27, 2019 7:42:42 GMT
A small heads up. There’s been a swap in number plates on some buses: - DE 20033’s number plate is YX09 HKB, but today I’ve spotted carrying the number plate YX09 HKD on its front - Same for DE 20035, whose number plate is YX09 HKD, but today it’s been spotted carrying the number plate YX09 HKB on its front. Yeah.. Do they still match the rear number plate, or has someone got lot of explaining to do
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Post by LT 20181 on Oct 27, 2019 8:06:01 GMT
A small heads up. There’s been a swap in number plates on some buses: - DE 20033’s number plate is YX09 HKB, but today I’ve spotted carrying the number plate YX09 HKD on its front - Same for DE 20035, whose number plate is YX09 HKD, but today it’s been spotted carrying the number plate YX09 HKB on its front. Yeah.. Do they still match the rear number plate, or has someone got lot of explains to do Nope. Someone’s got some explanation to do
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Post by rif153 on Oct 27, 2019 21:27:51 GMT
VH45189 has recieved the poppy wrap
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Post by paulo on Oct 28, 2019 7:06:53 GMT
Even if WD was used for TfL work, someone mentioned it has limited capacity so could only really take on one route so not exactly going to make much an impact on Wandsworth with regards to competition I'm also not convinced about moving the tour fleet to NC. An advantage of WD is how close it is to Central London allowing for short dead runs for the tour buses, thus saving on fuel. This advantage is lost when you look at NC which is significantly further out thus losing some of the advantages of having a tour fleet run from WD. Apparently there’s some form of restriction on NC operating times and possibly the use of Double Decks from the base due to local resident complaints.
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Post by sleckdeck on Oct 30, 2019 0:02:06 GMT
How do 65s turn at Ham when they terminate either way? (yes a couple years ago I saw a 65 northbound for ham)
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Post by vjaska on Oct 30, 2019 1:37:40 GMT
How do 65s turn at Ham when they terminate either way? (yes a couple years ago I saw a 65 northbound for ham) They turn at the stop before Dukes Avenue and then stand on the Dukes Avenue stand using the back roads to turn around.
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Post by snowman on Oct 30, 2019 6:04:53 GMT
How do 65s turn at Ham when they terminate either way? (yes a couple years ago I saw a 65 northbound for ham) They turn at the stop before Dukes Avenue and then stand on the Dukes Avenue stand using the back roads to turn around. The back roads are the loop that K5 uses. Dukes Avenue, Dysart Road, Lammas Road, Beaufort Road, Dukes Avenue If they need to go straight back in service some drivers just do a U turn in fire station forecourt (it’s officially Kingston fire station), and was built before the factories closed, so is a big 5 bay station, with room for 5 engines to stand on the forecourt but only has 2 fire engines these says. The 671 is normally turned this way to return to Tolworth
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