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Post by busdryver on Jun 6, 2020 11:41:01 GMT
Good to see that the oldest SPs at HH and AV are still being used. Borrowed time... they won’t be around for too long - get them while you can, as they are not compliant with the future...
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Post by LK65EBO on Jun 6, 2020 13:30:23 GMT
Good to see that the oldest SPs at HH and AV are still being used. Borrowed time... they won’t be around for too long - get them while you can, as they are not compliant with the future... I presume the 79 SPs will replace them.
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Post by rif153 on Jun 6, 2020 14:45:24 GMT
Good to see that the oldest SPs at HH and AV are still being used. Talking of the earlier SPs is their chassis N270UD?
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Post by LK65EBO on Jun 6, 2020 15:48:35 GMT
Good to see that the oldest SPs at HH and AV are still being used. Talking of the earlier SPs is their chassis N270UD? The 56 reg are N94UD The rest of the SPs are N230UD
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Post by vjaska on Jun 6, 2020 16:28:15 GMT
Good to see that the oldest SPs at HH and AV are still being used. Talking of the earlier SPs is their chassis N270UD? None of the London examples are 270UD's but are N230UD's - the 230 & 270 numbers refer to the BHP of the engine IIRC, there was a batch of N310UD's either built for Lothian at the LWB length of 11.3m or was merely an option for anyone to order?
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Post by rif153 on Jun 6, 2020 16:44:13 GMT
Talking of the earlier SPs is their chassis N270UD? The 56 reg are N94UD The rest of the SPs are N230UD
Thanks
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Post by LK65EBO on Jun 6, 2020 21:33:27 GMT
Any news on the SDEs for the K1?
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Post by COBO on Jun 6, 2020 21:43:49 GMT
When the 65 got it VHs what happened to the SPs that they replaced?
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Post by LK65EBO on Jun 6, 2020 21:45:25 GMT
When the 65 got it VHs what happened to the SPs that they replaced? Didn't they get withdrawn apart from 1?
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Post by ADH45258 on Jun 6, 2020 23:03:13 GMT
Only 1 post added since last weekend. This must be an all-time low for the RATP thread! I think it could take until July 25th for the 72/326/395 vehicle reshuffle to be complete. I think the outcome will be 09-reg on route 72, 59-reg on route 395 and 11-reg / DME on route 326. The 59reg DEs were originally allocated to the H13. After the 395/H13 operator swap, the 59reg switched (on paper) to the H11, with some of its newer 11reg forming the 395's allocation. The 60reg DLEs from the 423 are now at SO for the H11, which has released the 59reg DEs. Some of these have already moved to S for the 72. My guess is that the remaining 59reg DEs will follow, and possibly some 09reg examples going to S as well - then releasing some of the 72's 11reg DEs, which could be used to complete the 326's allocation. The 391 is up for tender soon - if lost, another option could be to use these DLEs on the 440, releasing DMEs to the 326 instead, giving a newer and fully-MMC allocation. There's also the 283's PVR cut which will release a few DLEs.
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Post by COBO on Jun 6, 2020 23:05:42 GMT
Only 1 post added since last weekend. This must be an all-time low for the RATP thread! I think it could take until July 25th for the 72/326/395 vehicle reshuffle to be complete. I think the outcome will be 09-reg on route 72, 59-reg on route 395 and 11-reg / DME on route 326. Some of the 59reg have already moved to S for the 72, having been released by the 60reg ex-423 DLEs being introduced to the H11. My guess is that the remaining 59reg DEs will follow, and possibly some 09reg examples going to S as well - then releasing some of the 72's 11reg DEs, which could be used to complete the 326's allocation. The 391 is up for tender soon - if lost, another option could be to use these DLEs on the 440, releasing DMEs to the 326 instead, giving a newer and fully-MMC allocation. There's also the 283's PVR cut which will release a few DLEs. Or have the 440 converted to double deck using the ex 139 VHs and move the DMEs to BT for the 326.
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Post by ADH45258 on Jun 6, 2020 23:14:47 GMT
With the 79's SPs no longer in service at BT, will a replacement allocation be available to transfer to BT in time for when services resume normal frequencies?
The 18/68reg VHs currently used on the 285 have been suggested, however another option could be the 62reg ADHs spare in the fleet. This would also give a simpler DD fleet at BT (just ADEs and ADHs).
It was previously expected that EB would retain the 14reg ADE batch for routes 467, 633 and 293D, but these instead went to TV with the 418. Perhaps the 418 could instead gain some SPs or VHs, sending the 14reg ADEs back to EB, with the 62reg ADHs at EB contributing to a new allocation on the 79 (along with some of the spares at V, and any others not in regular service). The 62reg ADH batch not required for the 266/H12 would be a good fit for the 79's TVR.
The 62reg ADHs would likely also be available to transfer to BT sooner, while the VHs won't be available until the 285 moves to Abellio.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Jun 6, 2020 23:22:07 GMT
With the 79's SPs no longer in service at BT, will a replacement allocation be available to transfer to BT in time for when services resume normal frequencies? The 18/68reg VHs currently used on the 285 have been suggested, however another option could be the 62reg ADHs spare in the fleet. This would also give a simpler DD fleet at BT (just ADEs and ADHs). It was previously expected that EB would retain the 14reg ADE batch for routes 467, 633 and 293D, but these instead went to TV with the 418. Perhaps the 418 could instead gain some SPs or VHs, sending the 14reg ADEs back to EB, with the 62reg ADHs at EB contributing to a new allocation on the 79 (along with some of the spares at V, and any others not in regular service). The 62reg ADH batch not required for the 266/H12 would be a good fit for the 79's TVR. The 62reg ADHs would likely also be available to transfer to BT sooner, while the VHs won't be available until the 285 moves to Abellio. I think the route 79 SPs only became free due to temporary service reductions. As services return to normal, I think the SPs will return to BT for route 79. Meanwhile, the likely delay to new smart E400s for route 285 could lead to current VH moving to V and some ADHs there loaned to Abellio briefly to enable them to take up route 285 based on a familiar vehicle type.
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Post by COBO on Jun 6, 2020 23:36:52 GMT
With the 79's SPs no longer in service at BT, will a replacement allocation be available to transfer to BT in time for when services resume normal frequencies? The 18/68reg VHs currently used on the 285 have been suggested, however another option could be the 62reg ADHs spare in the fleet. This would also give a simpler DD fleet at BT (just ADEs and ADHs). It was previously expected that EB would retain the 14reg ADE batch for routes 467, 633 and 293D, but these instead went to TV with the 418. Perhaps the 418 could instead gain some SPs or VHs, sending the 14reg ADEs back to EB, with the 62reg ADHs at EB contributing to a new allocation on the 79 (along with some of the spares at V, and any others not in regular service). The 62reg ADH batch not required for the 266/H12 would be a good fit for the 79's TVR. The 62reg ADHs would likely also be available to transfer to BT sooner, while the VHs won't be available until the 285 moves to Abellio. Aren't the 79 SPs being temporarily being withdrawn and will probably be back on the 79 after the lockdown and when things go back to normal. Why you downgrade the 418 with older SPs? and would the SPs come from? What ADHs aren't required for the 266 or H12?
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Post by vjaska on Jun 7, 2020 0:11:08 GMT
Only 1 post added since last weekend. This must be an all-time low for the RATP thread! I think it could take until July 25th for the 72/326/395 vehicle reshuffle to be complete. I think the outcome will be 09-reg on route 72, 59-reg on route 395 and 11-reg / DME on route 326. The 59reg DEs were originally allocated to the H13. After the 395/H13 operator swap, the 59reg switched (on paper) to the H11, with some of its newer 11reg forming the 395's allocation. The 60reg DLEs from the 423 are now at SO for the H11, which has released the 59reg DEs. Some of these have already moved to S for the 72. My guess is that the remaining 59reg DEs will follow, and possibly some 09reg examples going to S as well - then releasing some of the 72's 11reg DEs, which could be used to complete the 326's allocation. The 391 is up for tender soon - if lost, another option could be to use these DLEs on the 440, releasing DMEs to the 326 instead, giving a newer and fully-MMC allocation. There's also the 283's PVR cut which will release a few DLEs. Not all of the 423's DLE's have moved yet - so far, 5 have moved to SO for the H11 replaced by 5 VH's A number of 11 reg DE's have already been freed up from the 72 by older DE's moving into S. With the 79's SPs no longer in service at BT, will a replacement allocation be available to transfer to BT in time for when services resume normal frequencies? The 18/68reg VHs currently used on the 285 have been suggested, however another option could be the 62reg ADHs spare in the fleet. This would also give a simpler DD fleet at BT (just ADEs and ADHs). It was previously expected that EB would retain the 14reg ADE batch for routes 467, 633 and 293D, but these instead went to TV with the 418. Perhaps the 418 could instead gain some SPs or VHs, sending the 14reg ADEs back to EB, with the 62reg ADHs at EB contributing to a new allocation on the 79 (along with some of the spares at V, and any others not in regular service). The 62reg ADH batch not required for the 266/H12 would be a good fit for the 79's TVR. The 62reg ADHs would likely also be available to transfer to BT sooner, while the VHs won't be available until the 285 moves to Abellio. It has been mentioned on multiple occasions that the 79 will likely receive it's contractual VH's so I don't understand this continued talk of ADE's & ADH's moving into BT regardless of any standardisation - having two types at a garage isn't problematic and is the norm at many garages. Currently, BT have three different types and this will drop to two when the SP's move on.
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