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Post by deppy42 on Jul 21, 2020 8:50:45 GMT
Don't you just love people who get their knickers in a knot and like to question every detail... Busways House is not the brick building, it's the portakabin block. This block is being replaced with a new accommodation for certain operational departments to be centralised. The address of Busways house will remain (whether the registered address is changed, or the name Busways house survives remains to be seen. RATP House? lol..) I really don’t know why you’ve chosen to direct this as me, I don’t care that much. Lol... wasn't directed at you. Apologies. Just a rant at the misinformed, I get why people think the brick building is busways house. It does appear that way on all the plans. I don't know the reason behind the plans being incorrect, they could be a valid reason but having been to busways house and fulwell garage literally hundreds of times I can assure you it's just the portakabins.
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Post by askaway on Jul 21, 2020 9:24:51 GMT
Any news on TA40223 and 40224? They aren't being shown as withdrawn on lvf and nether is one of RATP's SLE's i cant remember or find which one.
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Post by LK65EBO on Jul 21, 2020 9:27:01 GMT
Any news on TA40223 and 40224? They aren't being shown as withdrawn on lvf and nether is one of RATP's SLE's i cant remember or find which one. Most likely withdrawn from TFL service. The LVF Admins might have forgotten to list it as withdrawn.
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Post by vjaska on Jul 21, 2020 9:44:49 GMT
Any news on TA40223 and 40224? They aren't being shown as withdrawn on lvf and nether is one of RATP's SLE's i cant remember or find which one. They've long been withdrawn - it's likely why they are not marked on LVF is due to there being no sighting with a new owner or no confirmation of them being scrapped.
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Post by rif153 on Jul 21, 2020 11:27:28 GMT
Feels like the end of an area for RATP HQ to be leaving FW after so many years of seeing the address of Busways House on the side of many a RATP bus, but I suppose everything must come to an end.
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Post by northlondonbuses on Jul 21, 2020 11:56:04 GMT
Any news on TA40223 and 40224? They aren't being shown as withdrawn on lvf and nether is one of RATP's SLE's i cant remember or find which one. They were withdrawn 2 years ago idk if you think theyre still in service cause they were withdrawn in late 2018/during the summer and the SLEs were withdrawn a long time ago mostly when the 114 went to metroline and the 13 to tower transit
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Post by thelondonthing on Jul 22, 2020 8:11:13 GMT
Lol... wasn't directed at you. Apologies. Just a rant at the misinformed, I get why people think the brick building is busways house. It does appear that way on all the plans. I don't know the reason behind the plans being incorrect, they could be a valid reason but having been to busways house and fulwell garage literally hundreds of times I can assure you it's just the portakabins. For what it's worth, there's clearly a great deal of "misinformation" that led to this misunderstanding, and it comes from a wide variety of well-informed sources. - The architects - who were obviously briefed directly by London United, as the project clients - refer quite clearly in their report to the "existing cabin" as an appended structure to the "Busways House office", and even included a photo (see my earlier post) highlighting the distinction between the two structures. No part of the architect's report makes any mention of, or even hints at, the dismantling or replacement of Busways House. It seems quite odd that no-one at London United made any effort to correct this inaccuracy. - As you acknowledged, the site plans and building diagrams drawn up by the architects - which will, by necessity, have been guided, assessed and approved by London United - clearly identify the brick building as Busways House, with the cabins shown as a separate annexe. Again, it's bizarre that London United failed to make any correction to this before the proposals were submitted. - The Design and Access Statement for the site also states: "The cabins are located to the East of the existing Busways house 2 story brick building that has its entrance of Wellington Road." - Richmond Council's own site report and planning application assessment - which will have been informed not just by London United and the architects, but also by its own historical land survey assets and official records - makes the same distinction: "The site comprises a two-storey cabin which is linked to Busways House to the east, which is located in the northwest corner of the depot." - The Council's report also documents the planning history of the site, and refers to the history of the cabin, again making an unambiguous distinction between Busways House and the cabin ( emphasis added): There is quite obviously a considerable body of evidence clearly indicating that Busways House is the brick building - and it's not merely baseless supposition or inexpert analysis; it's explicitly stated in the documentation that exists in the official public record presented by all of the key parties involved in the project. Frankly, it's just arrogant to simply declare that evidence false without substantiation, while also mocking those who were led to that conclusion by an entirely sensible reading of that evidence. In my experience, when someone casts aside tangible and irrefutable evidence and declares themselves right despite what that evidence clearly shows, it's hard to take them seriously. That said, I accept that I was wrong since you are obviously better informed than I am on this, and I stand corrected (and by the way, I did, in the first place, specifically ask that more knowledgeable people should correct me if my understanding was flawed - so thank you for clarifying this, despite the poor way that you chose to do so). But next time you correct someone who has pre-emptively acknowledged that they "may be completely wrong", and who has openly invited correction and clarification, I would suggest that you might consider offering a little more substance to support your position, rather than just dismissing the available evidence as wrong, declaring yourself right, and making fun of those who pay attention to details and try to work with the available facts for 'getting their knickers in a knot'. Let's face it: in the grand scheme of things, it couldn't possibly matter less if Busways House is the brick building, the cabin, or a small shed occupied by an elderly llama. But discussing such details and examining the minutiae about buses, operators, garages and the wider industry is the business of this forum - personally, that's one of the reasons I enjoy it so much. In my opinion, mocking others for revelling in such details does nothing to make the forum a welcoming or pleasant place to visit. Courtesy costs nothing.
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Post by Volvo on Jul 23, 2020 10:45:45 GMT
ADH45032 on the 9
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Post by galwhv69 on Jul 23, 2020 12:57:44 GMT
DE20107 showing Roehampton, Bessborough Road on the blinds
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Post by LK65EBO on Jul 23, 2020 20:39:22 GMT
I wonder why VH45237 was delivered with black headlight surrounds as opposed to the usual red surrounds.
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Post by Jack on Jul 23, 2020 21:12:57 GMT
I wonder why VH45237 was delivered with black headlight surrounds as opposed to the usual red surrounds. It wasn't. There is pictures of it on Flickr on its first day in service. It must be front end damage repair at some point.
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Post by paulo on Jul 23, 2020 22:57:48 GMT
I wonder why VH45237 was delivered with black headlight surrounds as opposed to the usual red surrounds. It wasn't. There is pictures of it on Flickr on its first day in service. It must be front end damage repair at some point. Pretty sure this one spent a few months off the road shortly after entering service which would suggest a repair job.
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Post by Volvo on Jul 24, 2020 12:33:30 GMT
Had a guy board my 258 at Harrow civic centre and greeted me As-salamu alaykum, I'm fasting and tried to walk past. I said greeting me and telling me your fasting isn't a free pass to get on the bus.
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Post by greg on Jul 24, 2020 19:27:09 GMT
Had a guy board my 258 at Harrow civic centre and greeted me As-salamu alaykum, I'm fasting and tried to walk past. I said greeting me and telling me your fasting isn't a free pass to get on the bus. As a Muslim, I agree. Don’t let them put religion on a way for free travel, us fasting has nothing to do with buses.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2020 22:32:48 GMT
ADH45258 becomes the first RATP bus on the N5.
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