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Post by vjaska on Jan 17, 2021 18:35:46 GMT
The MCL's on the 413 are going onto the 117 later this year. E200s to Sutton for 413 Source? It has been mentioned here by a separate source who has been right on many things in the past so I'm inclined to believe it. The Go-Ahead statement did say most vehicles will transfer so this info stacks up with that
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Post by snowman on Jan 17, 2021 19:08:01 GMT
ADE40491 - SN13CHC ADE40492 - SN13CHD ADE40493 - SN13CHH ADE40494 - SN13CHK What route are these ADE's for? Refurb cover, ordered before the school route cutbacks From memory following new contracts will be using existing buses 28, 71, 283, 418, 467, 481, 639, 670, 697, 698, E1, K5
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Post by southlondonbus on Jan 17, 2021 19:17:14 GMT
I belive only the 467 and 697 were awarded with diesel DDs. I would have thought the 14 reg from the 418 would be enough for both.
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Post by busdryver on Jan 17, 2021 20:02:43 GMT
ADE40491 - SN13CHC ADE40492 - SN13CHD ADE40493 - SN13CHH ADE40494 - SN13CHK What route are these ADE's for? I believe they are destined for Epsom for now, so that the ADHs that are temporarily there can go to refurb before the ADH’s next assignment from later in the year...
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Post by cc2005 on Jan 17, 2021 20:19:12 GMT
VH 45163 on thé E3 today, with FW garage codes. Is this a permanent transfer or a loan?
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Post by LK65EBO on Jan 17, 2021 20:25:38 GMT
VH 45163 on thé E3 today, with FW garage codes. Is this a permanent transfer or a loan? I might be wrong here but I think they are to cover the large amount of ADHs that are VOR. VH45163/VH45164/VH45108/VH45124 perhaps all covering for the VOR ADHs?
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Post by busdryver on Jan 17, 2021 20:32:21 GMT
VH 45163 on thé E3 today, with FW garage codes. Is this a permanent transfer or a loan? I might be wrong here but I think they are to cover the large amount of ADHs that are VOR. VH45163/VH45164/VH45108/VH45124 perhaps all covering for the VOR ADHs? I think that is spot on - Lots of long term VOR by the looks of things!
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Post by redexpress on Jan 18, 2021 7:01:24 GMT
What DPSs or DPs where allocated to the 116 when it was converted from double deck to low floor single deck operation? Ultimately 116 was converted using T-reg DPs released by the withdrawal of the T123 (i.e. part of the batch DP12-22). However I have a feeling the ex-T123 buses actually remained at HH for the H23, with standard T-reg DPs moving to AV for the 116 - can't quite remember the details now.
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Post by paulo on Jan 18, 2021 10:11:08 GMT
What DPSs or DPs where allocated to the 116 when it was converted from double deck to low floor single deck operation? Ultimately 116 was converted using T-reg DPs released by the withdrawal of the T123 (i.e. part of the batch DP12-22). However I have a feeling the ex-T123 buses actually remained at HH for the H23, with standard T-reg DPs moving to AV for the 116 - can't quite remember the details now. Did some come from a H32 DD conversion as well?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2021 10:24:41 GMT
Ultimately 116 was converted using T-reg DPs released by the withdrawal of the T123 (i.e. part of the batch DP12-22). However I have a feeling the ex-T123 buses actually remained at HH for the H23, with standard T-reg DPs moving to AV for the 116 - can't quite remember the details now. Did some come from a H32 DD conversion as well? The T4/T123 and 555/6/7 batch were all eventually repainted red and used at HH and AV on all their DP routes. AV also inherited the DP’s ex route 49 plus the X reg examples that were bought for the 222. I admit I am struggling to remember the exact sequences though. I think DP1-10 ( S reg single door ex R70) went to AV for the 81. DP11-33 were the T4/123 and 555 group buses and were used on the 116, H91 (replacing LLWs) DP34-79 T reg standard DPs for the H22,H37,H98. DP80-99 V reg for the 49 at S and later from V. DP501-510 X reg for 222. The H32 went straight from DRL to M, to VP.
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Post by paulo on Jan 18, 2021 10:39:57 GMT
Did some come from a H32 DD conversion as well? The T4/T123 and 555/6/7 batch were all eventually repainted red and used at HH and AV on all their DP routes. AV also inherited the DP’s ex route 49 plus the X reg examples that were bought for the 222. I admit I am struggling to remember the exact sequences though. I think DP1-10 ( S reg single door ex R70) went to AV for the 81. DP11-33 were the T4/123 and 555 group buses and were used on the 116, H91 (replacing LLWs) DP34-79 T reg standard DPs for the H22,H37,H98. DP80-99 V reg for the 49 at S and later from V. DP501-510 X reg for 222. The H32 went straight from DRL to M, to VP. Your memory is far better than mine. I think you’re right on all fronts here. I forgot about the 555 group. Didn’t the 222 batch oddly start at DP 500?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2021 11:09:00 GMT
The T4/T123 and 555/6/7 batch were all eventually repainted red and used at HH and AV on all their DP routes. AV also inherited the DP’s ex route 49 plus the X reg examples that were bought for the 222. I admit I am struggling to remember the exact sequences though. I think DP1-10 ( S reg single door ex R70) went to AV for the 81. DP11-33 were the T4/123 and 555 group buses and were used on the 116, H91 (replacing LLWs) DP34-79 T reg standard DPs for the H22,H37,H98. DP80-99 V reg for the 49 at S and later from V. DP501-510 X reg for 222. The H32 went straight from DRL to M, to VP. Your memory is far better than mine. I think you’re right on all fronts here. I forgot about the 555 group. Didn’t the 222 batch oddly start at DP 500? Yes I think you’re right there . Then the DPS range started for the 33.
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Post by redexpress on Jan 18, 2021 11:25:04 GMT
Did some come from a H32 DD conversion as well? The T4/T123 and 555/6/7 batch were all eventually repainted red and used at HH and AV on all their DP routes. AV also inherited the DP’s ex route 49 plus the X reg examples that were bought for the 222. I admit I am struggling to remember the exact sequences though. I think DP1-10 ( S reg single door ex R70) went to AV for the 81. DP11-33 were the T4/123 and 555 group buses and were used on the 116, H91 (replacing LLWs) DP34-79 T reg standard DPs for the H22,H37,H98. DP80-99 V reg for the 49 at S and later from V. DP501-510 X reg for 222. The H32 went straight from DRL to M, to VP. That looks about right to me, except that DP34-79 were for the H23 as well as the H22/H37/H98 mentioned (46 buses for a total PVR of 42).
The X-reg DPs only formed a part allocation on the 222, the rest was made up of T-reg buses released from the T4 withdrawal. Buses released from the T123 withdrawal then (indirectly) converted the 116.
Conversion of H91 to DP happened at a later stage and was a result of the double-decking of the 49, although I'm not sure whether the V-reg buses off the 49 went to HH - I think they might have gone to AV with T-reg buses being used on the H91?
What I can't remember offhand is what the ex-555 buses were used for. They were repainted into standard livery when the 555 group was lost in 2003 but I'm not sure what their official allocation was. They must have replaced something somewhere!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2021 12:02:57 GMT
The T4/T123 and 555/6/7 batch were all eventually repainted red and used at HH and AV on all their DP routes. AV also inherited the DP’s ex route 49 plus the X reg examples that were bought for the 222. I admit I am struggling to remember the exact sequences though. I think DP1-10 ( S reg single door ex R70) went to AV for the 81. DP11-33 were the T4/123 and 555 group buses and were used on the 116, H91 (replacing LLWs) DP34-79 T reg standard DPs for the H22,H37,H98. DP80-99 V reg for the 49 at S and later from V. DP501-510 X reg for 222. The H32 went straight from DRL to M, to VP. That looks about right to me, except that DP34-79 were for the H23 as well as the H22/H37/H98 mentioned (46 buses for a total PVR of 42).
The X-reg DPs only formed a part allocation on the 222, the rest was made up of T-reg buses released from the T4 withdrawal. Buses released from the T123 withdrawal then (indirectly) converted the 116.
Conversion of H91 to DP happened at a later stage and was a result of the double-decking of the 49, although I'm not sure whether the V-reg buses off the 49 went to HH - I think they might have gone to AV with T-reg buses being used on the H91?
What I can't remember offhand is what the ex-555 buses were used for. They were repainted into standard livery when the 555 group was lost in 2003 but I'm not sure what their official allocation was. They must have replaced something somewhere!
I’m pleased I got some of it right from just memory, but as always there were gaps. www.countrybus.org/Dart_SLF/LonUnited/LonUnSLF.htm Explains it all nicely ... I forgot the single doors DPs ran the 406,411 and 467.
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Post by Londontransport3 on Jan 18, 2021 12:06:48 GMT
ADE40491 - SN13CHC ADE40492 - SN13CHD ADE40493 - SN13CHH ADE40494 - SN13CHK What route are these ADE's for? 467s
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