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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2021 22:27:01 GMT
Might be a case of drivers doing their first half on the H14, then back to the garage, then second half on N5. This wouldn't be listed on TfL schedules as a crosslink even if both routes are on the same duty. You may be right as there are some duties starting late enough on the H14 for a driver to do the 2nd half on the N5 Different duty numbers though?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2021 22:55:21 GMT
As expected, most if not all of the DLE’s for 216/411 now sport the correct garage code on the sides. Could the VHRs ever convert to hydrogen?
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Jun 25, 2021 23:01:31 GMT
As expected, most if not all of the DLE’s for 216/411 now sport the correct garage code on the sides. Could the VHRs ever convert to hydrogen? In reality it will be impossible. VHRs are Parallel Hybrids, so will always require an engine to cut in eventually once the Hybrid battery is about halfway to three quarters depleted. They then behave much like standard diesels after this point until enough recharge is accumulated and a bus brought to a standstill when the electric motor takes over again. Hydrogens are pretty much electric buses, just the electricity is generated on board the bus using movement of electrons by a series of redox reactions as opposed to directly coming out of a storage mechanism. If you go to LTs however the situation is different, these alongside E40Hs can in theory be converted to Hydrogen. All you'd need to do is remove the Diesel engine and connect the electric motor on the bus which moves the wheels to a Hydrogen fuel cell. The problem then becomes where do you put all the hydrogen tanks required, alongside the fuel cell itself.
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Post by vjaska on Jun 25, 2021 23:35:57 GMT
Could the VHRs ever convert to hydrogen? In reality it will be impossible. VHRs are Parallel Hybrids, so will always require an engine to cut in eventually once the Hybrid battery is about halfway to three quarters depleted. They then behave much like standard diesels after this point until enough recharge is accumulated and a bus brought to a standstill when the electric motor takes over again. Hydrogens are pretty much electric buses, just the electricity is generated on board the bus using movement of electrons by a series of redox reactions as opposed to directly coming out of a storage mechanism. If you go to LTs however the situation is different, these alongside E40Hs can in theory be converted to Hydrogen. All you'd need to do is remove the Diesel engine and connect the electric motor on the bus which moves the wheels to a Hydrogen fuel cell. The problem then becomes where do you put all the hydrogen tanks required, alongside the fuel cell itself. The other issue is the cost - just like trying to convert LT's to electric, it would almost certainly be cheaper to buy a brand new hydrogen bus instead.
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Post by snowman on Jun 26, 2021 7:10:28 GMT
The Citaro-K currently on 413 are going to be reclassified during their refurb to MCM This will distinguish them from the 12m MCL when they move to 117 in September
I understand the potential short term loan to GoAhead is no longer likely as 7 Me are now in service, allowing a cascade of stock, when the route is novated next Saturday
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2021 14:06:27 GMT
VHR45204 currently out on the 183 today, I'm tracking it and will be getting on it later when our paths meet, then I'll be able to post some pics of the refurbished interior so you can all see how it looks with the RATP moquette.
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Post by LK65EBO on Jun 26, 2021 15:00:11 GMT
VHR45204 has also gained USB ports.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2021 15:02:39 GMT
VHR45204 has also gained USB ports. Interesting. I'm just at Golders Green bus station now it should be here within the next 10 minutes, i really can't wait to see it!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2021 16:23:39 GMT
VHR45204 has also gained USB ports. Yeah, saw photos of it and honestly looks like Frankenstein’s monster. USB ports aside it’s an eyesore.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2021 16:27:05 GMT
My best attempt at a shot of the interior of the VHRs; to sum up the refurb: - Interior includes turquoise grab poles, USB ports behind each seat and RATP moquette Attachment Deleted- Exterior includes new standard RATP group logos
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Post by WH241 on Jun 26, 2021 16:30:19 GMT
My best attempt at a shot of the interior of the VHRs; to sum up the refurb: - Interior includes turquoise grab poles, USB ports behind each seat and RATP moquette View Attachment- Exterior includes new standard RATP group logos Not impressed if being honest, much prefer the original LT seating! Actually would have liked to have seen it rolled out as standard on all buses.
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Post by gazza76 on Jun 26, 2021 16:50:46 GMT
Was vhr repainted or was just the interior refurbish
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2021 16:51:55 GMT
Was vhr repainted or was just the interior refurbish It was repainted as well, being rebranded as RATP group too of course!
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Post by ADH45258 on Jun 26, 2021 16:56:33 GMT
My best attempt at a shot of the interior of the VHRs; to sum up the refurb: - Interior includes turquoise grab poles, USB ports behind each seat and RATP moquette View Attachment- Exterior includes new standard RATP group logos Not impressed if being honest, much prefer the original LT seating! Actually would have liked to have seen it rolled out as standard on all buses. I prefer the TFL moquette used by HCT and Sullivan, and think this could work well for LT refurbishments.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2021 17:00:25 GMT
My best attempt at a shot of the interior of the VHRs; to sum up the refurb: - Interior includes turquoise grab poles, USB ports behind each seat and RATP moquette View Attachment- Exterior includes new standard RATP group logos Not impressed if being honest, much prefer the original LT seating! Actually would have liked to have seen it rolled out as standard on all buses. I do like the original LT seating but i think the novelty would've definitely worn off long ago had it been rolled out as standard on all buses, although it would've still been a better alternative to RATP's dark blue moquette. For me it's all about variety, something that RATP's fleet was previously renowned for. I miss the days of 2017 for example, where they had a good variety of buses as well as seat moquette,and you could get up to 6 different types of buses showing up on the 183 and 292. Sadly that is now a thing of the past,and as older buses get withdrawn and existing fleet refurbished, routes will become increasingly more uniform and homogenised.
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