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Post by LondonExplorer316 on Sept 3, 2022 7:33:00 GMT
Ex Stamford Brook LT137/9/40/41 With Arriva Potentially for 248?
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Post by Londontransport3 on Sept 3, 2022 8:05:32 GMT
Ex Stamford Brook LT137/9/40/41 With Arriva Potentially for 248? Yes They are 248 Buses
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Sept 3, 2022 9:47:18 GMT
340 is coming to BT confirmed by manager this morning. Also currently buses for the 303 are also going to be parked overnight at the Golf Course. Alas we could see the quality of operation of route 303 going down a hole as a result
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2022 12:50:42 GMT
I’m a bit perplexed as to why the spare OMEs and potentially Spare BCEs haven’t been recycled yet into a new tender contract.
Surely that would be better financially rather than replace existing compliant vehicles.
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Post by george on Sept 4, 2022 12:58:22 GMT
I’m a bit perplexed as to why the spare OMEs and potentially Spare BCEs haven’t been recycled yet into a new tender contract. Surely that would be better financially rather than replace existing compliant vehicles. Maybe they are being lined up for the E2 and E8 if RATP win the routes.
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Post by ADH45258 on Sept 4, 2022 13:44:18 GMT
I’m a bit perplexed as to why the spare OMEs and potentially Spare BCEs haven’t been recycled yet into a new tender contract. Surely that would be better financially rather than replace existing compliant vehicles. The OMEs use different chargers, so RATP probably want to keep them at X regardless, and I don't think there's been any DD routes for tender recently nearby. Also the C3's OMEs could potentially become spare too if the route gets withdrawn, in which case there may be a plan to use these combined with those from the 23's cut. For example, the revised 414 to Putney Heath, if it goes ahead, could convert to OMEs, then the 12reg ADHs could maybe replace the older examples on the E3? With the 94's upcoming cut to Marble Arch, there probably won't be enough BCEs released to give a full allocation on a potential route gain. Though only a short section of the route is being withdrawn, it is far more congested than the rest of the route, taking up about a third of the total journey time typically. So would expect about 8-9 BCEs to become available, not quite enough for the 340 for example. My guess is that the H14's contract retention will be amended to instead use the electrics from the 94. Would add up well, and BCEs from the 183/X140 are currently often used on the route. The 340 could then use the ADHs released when it transfers to RATP - all of the MMC ADHs together would exactly cover the 340/H12.
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Post by VMH2537 on Sept 4, 2022 13:58:30 GMT
According to londonbusroutes.net, the 148 will have a new timetable to improve reliability. It's PVR will change to 18.
Edit: Timetable change will commence on September 10th
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Post by TB123 on Sept 4, 2022 14:14:34 GMT
According to londonbusroutes.net, the 148 will have a new timetable to improve reliability. It's PVR will change to 18. Good. Much needed. It is the worst performing high frequency route in all of London. That extra bus will helpfully help out.
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Post by transportizm on Sept 4, 2022 14:19:36 GMT
I’m a bit perplexed as to why the spare OMEs and potentially Spare BCEs haven’t been recycled yet into a new tender contract. Surely that would be better financially rather than replace existing compliant vehicles. The OMEs use different chargers, so RATP probably want to keep them at X regardless, and I don't think there's been any DD routes for tender recently nearby. Also the C3's OMEs could potentially become spare too if the route gets withdrawn, in which case there may be a plan to use these combined with those from the 23's cut. For example, the revised 414 to Putney Heath, if it goes ahead, could convert to OMEs, then the 12reg ADHs could maybe replace the older examples on the E3? With the 94's upcoming cut to Marble Arch, there probably won't be enough BCEs released to give a full allocation on a potential route gain. Though only a short section of the route is being withdrawn, it is far more congested than the rest of the route, taking up about a third of the total journey time typically. So would expect about 8-9 BCEs to become available, not quite enough for the 340 for example. My guess is that the H14's contract retention will be amended to instead use the electrics from the 94. Would add up well, and BCEs from the 183/X140 are currently often used on the route. The 340 could then use the ADHs released when it transfers to RATP - all of the MMC ADHs together would exactly cover the 340/H12. I was thinking that the OMEs would transfer over to the 452 to release the VDWs from X because there would be enough buses to do this now at X.
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Post by rj131 on Sept 4, 2022 17:34:36 GMT
According to londonbusroutes.net, the 148 will have a new timetable to improve reliability. It's PVR will change to 18. Good. Much needed. It is the worst performing high frequency route in all of London. That extra bus will helpfully help out. Wow I didn’t know it was that bad, how is even the 13 beating it? And it’s not like they’re inexperienced with the route. Even though RATP probably partly complicit in its poor operation, given the highly tumultuous nature of the route I don’t think any other operator could provide a significant improvement.
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Post by BE37054 (quoll662) on Sept 4, 2022 17:35:19 GMT
Good. Much needed. It is the worst performing high frequency route in all of London. That extra bus will helpfully help out. Wow I didn’t know it was that bad, how is even the 13 beating it? And it’s not like they’re inexperienced with the route. Even though RATP probably partly complicit in its poor operation, given the highly tumultuous nature of the route I don’t think any other operator could provide a significant improvement. And it's gaining an extension!
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Post by rif153 on Sept 4, 2022 18:33:10 GMT
I’m a bit perplexed as to why the spare OMEs and potentially Spare BCEs haven’t been recycled yet into a new tender contract. Surely that would be better financially rather than replace existing compliant vehicles. The OMEs use different chargers, so RATP probably want to keep them at X regardless, and I don't think there's been any DD routes for tender recently nearby. Also the C3's OMEs could potentially become spare too if the route gets withdrawn, in which case there may be a plan to use these combined with those from the 23's cut. For example, the revised 414 to Putney Heath, if it goes ahead, could convert to OMEs, then the 12reg ADHs could maybe replace the older examples on the E3? With the 94's upcoming cut to Marble Arch, there probably won't be enough BCEs released to give a full allocation on a potential route gain. Though only a short section of the route is being withdrawn, it is far more congested than the rest of the route, taking up about a third of the total journey time typically. So would expect about 8-9 BCEs to become available, not quite enough for the 340 for example. My guess is that the H14's contract retention will be amended to instead use the electrics from the 94. Would add up well, and BCEs from the 183/X140 are currently often used on the route. The 340 could then use the ADHs released when it transfers to RATP - all of the MMC ADHs together would exactly cover the 340/H12. I agree BCEs to the H14 then MMC ADHs to the 340 makes the most sense but not sure if enough BCEs would be released by the 94 cut, heard suggestions the PVR might go down by around 5, the H14 has a PVR of 8 but RATP might be able scrape together some other BCEs too. Another option could be BCEs to the 481, probably about the right number of buses released from the 94 cut but wouldn’t release enough VHs on its own for the 340.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2022 19:02:54 GMT
Good. Much needed. It is the worst performing high frequency route in all of London. That extra bus will helpfully help out. Wow I didn’t know it was that bad, how is even the 13 beating it? And it’s not like they’re inexperienced with the route. Even though RATP probably partly complicit in its poor operation, given the highly tumultuous nature of the route I don’t think any other operator could provide a significant improvement. It was absolutely fine until tfl reduced its pvr. It’s a really busy route. I don’t think TfL have been particularly fair in West London with frequency cuts when they weren’t justified at all.
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Post by rj131 on Sept 4, 2022 20:09:49 GMT
Wow I didn’t know it was that bad, how is even the 13 beating it? And it’s not like they’re inexperienced with the route. Even though RATP probably partly complicit in its poor operation, given the highly tumultuous nature of the route I don’t think any other operator could provide a significant improvement. It was absolutely fine until tfl reduced its pvr. It’s a really busy route. I don’t think TfL have been particularly fair in West London with frequency cuts when they weren’t justified at all. I think there have been a lot of places where there’ve been unjustified frequency cuts tbh, not just the west. I think the east has been more unfairly targeted personally.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Sept 4, 2022 21:03:02 GMT
The OMEs use different chargers, so RATP probably want to keep them at X regardless, and I don't think there's been any DD routes for tender recently nearby. Also the C3's OMEs could potentially become spare too if the route gets withdrawn, in which case there may be a plan to use these combined with those from the 23's cut. For example, the revised 414 to Putney Heath, if it goes ahead, could convert to OMEs, then the 12reg ADHs could maybe replace the older examples on the E3? With the 94's upcoming cut to Marble Arch, there probably won't be enough BCEs released to give a full allocation on a potential route gain. Though only a short section of the route is being withdrawn, it is far more congested than the rest of the route, taking up about a third of the total journey time typically. So would expect about 8-9 BCEs to become available, not quite enough for the 340 for example. My guess is that the H14's contract retention will be amended to instead use the electrics from the 94. Would add up well, and BCEs from the 183/X140 are currently often used on the route. The 340 could then use the ADHs released when it transfers to RATP - all of the MMC ADHs together would exactly cover the 340/H12. I agree BCEs to the H14 then MMC ADHs to the 340 makes the most sense but not sure if enough BCEs would be released by the 94 cut, heard suggestions the PVR might go down by around 5, the H14 has a PVR of 8 but RATP might be able scrape together some other BCEs too. Another option could be BCEs to the 481, probably about the right number of buses released from the 94 cut but wouldn’t release enough VHs on its own for the 340. Electric double-decks would be quite a luxurious upgrade for route 481 compared to short single-decks it had with Abellio relatively recently.
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