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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2022 17:01:43 GMT
Hopefully the H91 will return to some form of normality at its old base and end its time at RATP on a high because operation as of late has been fairly pitiful. Assuming they will be leaving a few VHs behind for the E3 Only been a day back and it's so much better! Make the most of the lovely VHs
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Post by paulo on Sept 24, 2022 19:13:52 GMT
Only been a day back and it's so much better! Make the most of the lovely VHs Rumour has it they will go on to the H98 when the H91 moves to Metroline.
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Post by YX10FFN on Sept 24, 2022 20:00:49 GMT
Make the most of the lovely VHs Rumour has it they will go on to the H98 when the H91 moves to Metroline. What about the 340?
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Post by southlondonbus on Sept 24, 2022 20:18:17 GMT
Rumour has it they will go on to the H98 when the H91 moves to Metroline. What about the 340? Seems a bit wasteful on the H98 incase the route is lost. The 340 on the other hand has a 7 year contract ahead of it and needs some hybrids.
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Post by ADH45258 on Sept 24, 2022 20:54:07 GMT
Seems a bit wasteful on the H98 incase the route is lost. The 340 on the other hand has a 7 year contract ahead of it and needs some hybrids. There will be enough hybrids to cover both routes, and RATP likely want to withdraw the remaining SPs as soon as the H91 is lost - several months before the 340 is gained. For the 340, further hybrids can be released by spare electrics being utilised, either from the 23's PVR cut or the 94's cutback to Marble Arch. My guess would be perhaps for the H14 to convert to BCEs from the 94, then sending the ADHs to the 340 at BT. However it's still a year until the 340 transfers to RATP so any plans could change before then.
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Post by vjaska on Sept 25, 2022 0:37:38 GMT
Seems a bit wasteful on the H98 incase the route is lost. The 340 on the other hand has a 7 year contract ahead of it and needs some hybrids. There will be enough hybrids to cover both routes, and RATP likely want to withdraw the remaining SPs as soon as the H91 is lost - several months before the 340 is gained. For the 340, further hybrids can be released by spare electrics being utilised, either from the 23's PVR cut or the 94's cutback to Marble Arch. My guess would be perhaps for the H14 to convert to BCEs from the 94, then sending the ADHs to the 340 at BT. However it's still a year until the 340 transfers to RATP so any plans could change before then. The H91 does not release enough hybrids for both the 340 & H98 - H98 alone would require almost all the 16 (was 15 until yesterday) 16 reg VH's allocated to the H91. The four 15 reg that have remained at V are already earmarked for elsewhere
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Post by COBO on Sept 25, 2022 5:04:22 GMT
It’s amazing how RATP’s growth has grown in NW London. When they gain the 226 they get a little bigger. They get a little bit bigger in Cricklewood and Willesden.
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Post by metrolinewest on Sept 25, 2022 19:38:34 GMT
It’s amazing how RATP’s growth has grown in NW London. When they gain the 226 they get a little bigger. They get a little bit bigger in Cricklewood and Willesden. They also get more coverage in Harlesden. At one point Harlesden was nearly fully metroline, now RATP have 18,220,228, 266 and will add 226 to the list, in fact Harlesden is more RATP then Metroline if I am not mistaken. Very sad indeed IMO.
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Post by YX10FFN on Sept 25, 2022 20:27:23 GMT
It’s amazing how RATP’s growth has grown in NW London. When they gain the 226 they get a little bigger. They get a little bit bigger in Cricklewood and Willesden. They also get more coverage in Harlesden. At one point Harlesden was nearly fully metroline, now RATP have 18,220,228, 266 and will add 226 to the list, in fact Harlesden is more RATP then Metroline if I am not mistaken. Very sad indeed IMO. You can't blame them really- they had the market presence thanks to NCP's garage- then acquired what I believe was a bigger site and expanded from there. Even if I'm not the biggest RATP fan I'll always choose competition
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Post by rif153 on Sept 25, 2022 22:27:26 GMT
It’s amazing how RATP’s growth has grown in NW London. When they gain the 226 they get a little bigger. They get a little bit bigger in Cricklewood and Willesden. They also get more coverage in Harlesden. At one point Harlesden was nearly fully metroline, now RATP have 18,220,228, 266 and will add 226 to the list, in fact Harlesden is more RATP then Metroline if I am not mistaken. Very sad indeed IMO. RATP's 224 also serves Harlesden
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Post by borneobus on Sept 26, 2022 0:40:22 GMT
They also get more coverage in Harlesden. At one point Harlesden was nearly fully metroline, now RATP have 18,220,228, 266 and will add 226 to the list, in fact Harlesden is more RATP then Metroline if I am not mistaken. Very sad indeed IMO. RATP's 224 also serves Harlesden Good point but interestingly if you take services @ Wembley Central Station currently: Metroline 83, 92, 182, 204, 297 & 483 RATP 18, 79 & 223 Crudely measured in PVR terms 68% Metroline / 32% RATP
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Post by kmkcheng on Sept 26, 2022 7:33:35 GMT
RATP's 224 also serves Harlesden Good point but interestingly if you take services @ Wembley Central Station currently: Metroline 83, 92, 182, 204, 297 & 483 RATP 18, 79 & 223 Crudely measured in PVR terms 68% Metroline / 32% RATP At one point, this was 100% before Metroline lost 18, 79 and 223
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Post by rif153 on Sept 26, 2022 12:11:43 GMT
RATP's 224 also serves Harlesden Good point but interestingly if you take services @ Wembley Central Station currently: Metroline 83, 92, 182, 204, 297 & 483 RATP 18, 79 & 223 Crudely measured in PVR terms 68% Metroline / 32% RATP I know it doesn't serve the High Road but of course the H17 will be a Metroline route too soon.
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Post by LK65EBO on Sept 26, 2022 16:02:06 GMT
Hopefully the H91 will return to some form of normality at its old base and end its time at RATP on a high because operation as of late has been fairly pitiful. Assuming they will be leaving a few VHs behind for the E3 Only been a day back and it's so much better! I take that back already.
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Post by snowman on Sept 26, 2022 16:53:25 GMT
Looking at LVF, with some OMEs moving to 28, and the H91 moving, it looks like a few SPs have not worked for few days, those on 116 and 71 in range SP40165-40190 It appears 9 of them weren’t used today and some have been out of service for few days
Also seems the 71 is seeing more BCEs
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